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Daniel Thomas
05-10-2006, 02:36 AM
Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

I still say $200. They could even take it down as low as $150 if they were really aggressive, but they're already in the driver's seat as price goes.

Nintendo is clearly out for the jugular, with all their big names coming out at once, and all looking very good. Three new Mario games - how can you beat that?

Videogames are going to be cool again!

Anthony1
05-10-2006, 02:48 AM
Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

RegSNES
05-10-2006, 03:07 AM
Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

Just hit up GameSpot. You can download stream their videos for free.

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 03:48 AM
Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

Just hit up GameSpot. You can download stream their videos for free.

GameTrailers.com have a Hi Def version of the trailer. And it blew me away! I must have watched it a dozen times last night, back to back. I think it made the same impact as when I first saw Super Mario 64!

petewhitley
05-10-2006, 03:50 AM
Nintendo is destined to trail Sony and Microsoft in market share. Graphics sell consoles. They might not sell portables (which are a lifesaver for parents to occupy kids), but they sell consoles. The videos for the Wii are so far behind the PS3 and 360 it isn't even fair. I'll buy one along with all you DP "gameplay over graphics" gamers, don't get me wrong. And it will be ALOT of fun. But don't kid yourselves and say it will be anything other than a 3rd place console with limited 3rd party support. If it had come along with a combination of this controller innovation AND comparable processing technology there might have been a shake up. Unfortunately it didn't. A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?). It doesn't take anything away from the potential for the Wii to be a classic, enjoyable system. But it's pretty silly to read all these posts proclaiming that Nintendo is going to dominate or even compete in the next-gen.

GarrettCRW
05-10-2006, 04:00 AM
Graphics sell consoles.

The Atari Video Computer System.

The Nintendo Entertainment System.

The Sega Genesis.

The Sony PlayStation.

The PlayStation 2.

These systems had something very important in common: they outsold (or matched the sales of) their primary competition, all of which had better graphics. (For the record, those competitors were: Intellivision/Colecovision, Master System, Super NES, N64, and XBox/GameCube, respectively.)

MarkMan
05-10-2006, 05:01 AM
Right now for me... the show is like this:

Nintendo Wii > XBOX 360 > PlayStation 3

The PS3 and 360 are both around the same for me. MS has very AMBITIOUS goals and have announced killer titles that are sure to get everyone O_O!? Fable 2, Halo 3, GTA IV(Also on PS3). That's some good shit to look forward to.

PS3 has Tekken which we all love. <3 ! Virtua Fighter 5, and the most exciting one to me so far... Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. But then they have that crazy price and hardware changes.

Wii on the other hand. 27 playable titles! WTF. If anyone saw the press conference... man the controller looks wonderful... the new mention of sound/speaker capability is very nice IMO. A new Mario title in Super Mario Galaxy... The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess Wii Edition with exclusive Wii content, Duck Hunt Wii, that Tennis game was nice, Red Steel, and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

For handhelds, I'm glad with both of them... PSP is bringing some major heat with the post MGS3 title and Silent Hill prequel in Origins... looking really good. TalkMan will be great once it gets over here. For DS though, I'm way more excited... Starfox DS, Lunar Knights DS(From Hideo Kojima) which is the new Boktai I believe..., Zelda: Phantom Hourglass and more... very exciting.

I'll reserve final judgement over the next few days as I'm sure my feelings will change. I'll be able to play the games more in depth and see how they are and how their potential is.

I'm excited as fuck. Only member of my group that is still awake. lol. 2 AM. I don't think I'll sleep.

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 05:33 AM
Whoa! I didn't realize that Super Paper Mario is a platformer! Kick ass!

That was, without a doubt, the biggest shock from yesterday (for me, anyway). I read a little about it after it hit the net, and then I downloaded the video. And just before I headed to bed, I took a quick gander. Boy, I really wasn’t expecting such an oddball platformer. This will be the freshest take on a Mario platformer, I reckon.

It is quite fantastic to see Nintendo taking a few risks with their beloved franchises. Yes, yes… I know – it is still a platformer at heart, but it is clearly going to be a little “off the wall”. And while Nintendo seem hell bent on revolutionizing the gaming industry (which they are slowly doing, in my opinion), they usually stick to a fairly tried and test formula for their powerhouse franchises. Super Paper Mario – perhaps more than Super Mario Galaxy – will defy the norm. I’m thinking Viewtiful Joe meets Super Smash Bros. Melee with a hint of New. Super Mario Bros. For some reason :)

I was also reading this morning, GameSpot’s hands-on impressions of the latest iteration of the Wii freestyle controller. You can read their impressions here (http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149724&pid=930752). Considering that I generally feel that GameSpot’s previews are fairly neutral – I thought the article sounded very positive.

Having kept up with everything Nintendo so far, one concern still remains. When Microsoft launched the Xbox 360, we saw a number of launch titles skimp a little on gameplay and content, at the expense of producing early next-gen Hi Def graphics. It worries me that some developers – probably third-party developers – will concentrate solely on recreating current-gen games, simply with a new control method. I don’t think that will be good enough.

While most gamers have come to terms with the fact that the Wii will be significantly less powerful than the Xbox 360 or the PlayStation 3, I think most people are expecting graphics (to begin with) on par with Resident Evil 4, which was easily the prettiest game of this generation. From the trailers I saw, I don’t think anything came close to these graphics. Which is a crying shame. Graphics aside, I certainly hope there is more than just a new way of controlling these games. I want to see more online enabled titles at launch, than not. The revolution is more than just a controller – I hope developers (and publishers) remember this.

As for the DS… I remember reading, possibly on 1up, that we could expect some pretty special offerings at E3. And boy – they weren’t wrong! I read on Eurogamer this morning that 100 DS titles are in-development, which is a pretty staggering number. This is very much the second wave of games for the DS, so I am expecting much higher quality across the board.

Just going through Nintendo’s announcements – I was astounded by what was on offer. All these games are due to hit the States before the end of the year, though dates are yet to be confirmed for most. I am actually expecting Nintendo to mix things up a little, and debut some of these titles in Europe ahead of the US. I finally think Nintendo are opening up to this CRAZY way of thinking, given that Europe is leading the US in terms of DS sales and popularity.

StarFox DS looks superb. It shows just how capable the machine is, much like Metroid Prime Hunters did recently. Games like these are raising the bar, and making it harder for third party developers to churn out – pardon my expression – shit. If this is online-enabled, which it surely will be, we’re in for a treat. Yoshi’s Island 2, which probably won’t live up to the original, should be good. It is a shame that they haven’t mentioned the new Wario Land title yet, but I am sure an announcement will follow shortly.

Turning my attention to Microsoft, finally… I haven’t watched their conference yet, but having heard that Lumines is heading to Live, and having realized that I have no interest whatsoever in the PlayStation 3, I have decided to buy an Xbox 360 this morning. Multiplayer Lumines across Live is worth it alone, I reckon. This was how I planned it to be. 360, Wii and DS for the win :)

Best. E3. Ever!

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 05:35 AM
and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

Have they spoken about Resident Evil for the Wii, yet? Shown any footage? Have I missed something? :(

Julio III
05-10-2006, 05:56 AM
and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

Have they spoken about Resident Evil for the Wii, yet? Shown any footage? Have I missed something? :(

Its just on the list of Wii games thats been made available. Nothing shown as of yet.

Other thoughts:
Nintendo seem really to be reviving the 2D platformer, especially on the DS, what with 2 new Donkey Kong games, Yoshi's Island 2, Kirby etc, coupled with New Super Mario and Princess Peach. And then, surprised at Super Paper Mario, it looks so wierd, especially the equations littering the background.

New force feedback wheel for the 360 coupled with new Forza. The 360 is really looking home to great racing games now what with PGR3 but if only they got Outrun to run on it.

Elite Beat Agents - its like a sequal to Ouendan! Sign me up for this - i hope the songs are good and there are a variety of styles.

Hotel Dusk: Room 215 for DS - yes, finally more point n click adventures announced for the DS. I'm liking the holding the DS sideways as well, more games should utilise this

I read bout WarioWareWii and it looks pretty amazing. The only Wii game so far that i'm definitely getting. I've yet to take a proper look at the info for most of the games though

Mr.FoodMonster
05-10-2006, 07:13 AM
EDIT: This just in: Holy crud! Activision is buying Red Octane!

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/706/706632p1.html
Well, atleast they wont run out of money, and that should allow them to get a lot more music rights, due to them being activision and all, not to mention much more money to go around. A very nice and unexpected announcement.

FantasiaWHT
05-10-2006, 08:49 AM
Star Fox DS (SS don't seem to do it justice. I want to make sure there's no damn foot missions in this one.)

My faith in Nintendo's vision can only take me so far, and I fear this is beyond that border.

Yeah if Starfox on the DS has more than ONE walkaround level, I'm not buying it, period. Assault blew major chunks.

But holy Nintendo gaming gods! I need to start saving now... and I'm so glad that I'm going back to school in the fall (Law School) and will have 2 hours on a bus every day to play DS like crazy! hehehe.

And OH MAN!!! CULDCEPT IS GOING 360!?!? NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

grr....

That's about the only game I can get my wife to play with me with any regularity heh. I may for the first time in my life have to buy a system for one game and one game alone... I just hope that the translation is better this time around hehe.

Icarus Moonsight
05-10-2006, 08:50 AM
Nintendo is destined to trail Sony and Microsoft in market share. Graphics sell consoles. They might not sell portables (which are a lifesaver for parents to occupy kids), but they sell consoles. The videos for the Wii are so far behind the PS3 and 360 it isn't even fair. I'll buy one along with all you DP "gameplay over graphics" gamers, don't get me wrong. And it will be ALOT of fun. But don't kid yourselves and say it will be anything other than a 3rd place console with limited 3rd party support. If it had come along with a combination of this controller innovation AND comparable processing technology there might have been a shake up. Unfortunately it didn't. A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?). It doesn't take anything away from the potential for the Wii to be a classic, enjoyable system. But it's pretty silly to read all these posts proclaiming that Nintendo is going to dominate or even compete in the next-gen.

Odd, I thought this post of yours was the most silly. :P

Seriously, each company has a strategy and has been drafting and refining it for awhile now. When the dust settles from this generation's scuffle it will be quite clear who sold what and whom thumped whom. I'm fairly confident that Nintendo won't find themself on the bottom this go 'round though. Not after what we've all seen of the Wii. I'm not saying Sony is out of the race either, just that they won't find placing top to be a given. This time they're (MS, Sony and/or Nintendo) gonna have to earn it.

Griking
05-10-2006, 09:43 AM
Graphics sell consoles.

Maybe to you but graphics aren't what I base my console purchases on.


A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?).

Honestly, I think that $499/$599 is way out of reach of an average gamer. Keep in mind that many consoles are purchased by parents for their kids. I'm sorry but most moms and dads just aren't going to fork over $600 (plus another $60 for a game) for a video game system at a time gas when gas and oil prices are at an all time high.

ClubNinja
05-10-2006, 10:24 AM
I haven't been paying close enough attention, but is there a Wii release date out there yet?

segagamer4life
05-10-2006, 10:29 AM
NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

swlovinist
05-10-2006, 10:35 AM
Nintendo Wii > XBOX 360 > PlayStation 3


Holy crap Nintendo for me has really gone out and showed that it means business. Not only are they showing very quality games, they are making people like me want to buy Nintendo products again. Also, Super Paper Mario and Zelda for the Gamecube look to be fantastic. The DS by far is having a great show, with a new Mario game that looks to rock. I have been downloading all the E3 trailers on my 360, most of which do not show any gameplay. Pinata looks interesting, but overall I did not see alot of products remotely near release. The PS3 as I have said before is going to loose at least one customer due to price...me. I dont care if the dam thing can even do my teacher homework...$500 is way too much money.

Slate
05-10-2006, 10:54 AM
NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg





http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

:image:

..Back to the Nintendo subject, Nintendo really has it going now, They're earning my respect for them back, When i played World Class Track Meet on the NES it was fun, and the wii looks just like that - Fun.

Nintendo is really making a comeback here (For me anyway) Since there are so many Must buy titles, for the DS, GBA, Wii, and gamecube! (I know there wasn't anything big said on the gamecube or GBA, but i'm behind in that area, so that counts for me)

I WILL preorder a wii. And with these DS titles coming out, they may just make me buy a DS lite!

Man, it's time to get ready to buy over $1,000 worth of new games this year - Nintendo Wii system, wii games, DS Lite, DS games, Xbox 360, 360 games, and accessories..

kainemaxwell
05-10-2006, 10:58 AM
I'm definitly recording the E3 show on G4 tonight.

GrandAmChandler
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.

Schenley
05-10-2006, 11:21 AM
I'm definitly recording the E3 show on G4 tonight.Get ready to fast forward!

Richter
05-10-2006, 11:22 AM
Opera confirmed that the Wii will also get its browser
http://opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/05/10/

--

Konami, Midway, Namco classics on XBLA

--

about GTA4 on the 360: In October 2007, "Grand Theft Auto IV" will launch for the Xbox, with exclusive add-on content available on Xbox Live.. There's your exclusive

Tamashii Sensei
05-10-2006, 01:03 PM
Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.

Awesome! I can't wait to read some hands-on impressions for this, as well as view any and all possible media I can find.

koster
05-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Opera? Cool.

As one who has never pre-ordered a console, I'm severely tempted to pre-order a Wii.

If Nintendo puts together any sort of system launch bundle, I'm definitely there; if not, I'm still inclined to pick one up, if only to make one less system available to the Ebay crowd. :)

Any mention at E3 of requirement(s) for DVD playback on the Wii?

segagamer4life
05-10-2006, 01:32 PM
NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg





http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

:image:

..Back to the Nintendo subject, Nintendo really has it going now, They're earning my respect for them back, When i played World Class Track Meet on the NES it was fun, and the wii looks just like that - Fun.

Nintendo is really making a comeback here (For me anyway) Since there are so many Must buy titles, for the DS, GBA, Wii, and gamecube! (I know there wasn't anything big said on the gamecube or GBA, but i'm behind in that area, so that counts for me)

I WILL preorder a wii. And with these DS titles coming out, they may just make me buy a DS lite!

Man, it's time to get ready to buy over $1,000 worth of new games this year - Nintendo Wii system, wii games, DS Lite, DS games, Xbox 360, 360 games, and accessories..


is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 01:34 PM
Pro Evolution Soccer on DS screenshots (http://ds-x2.customer.attikh.net/index.php?id=5230)

Tomb Raider Legend on DS screenshots (http://ds-x2.customer.attikh.net/index.php?id=5233)

And... I found this on Infendo. Head to Nintendo's E3 press site (http://press.nintendo.com/), and use the following login...

Username: media
Password: E32006

The videos available are zipped, and are much larger than what I had downloaded from Nintendo last night (which means they could be higher resolution :)). Enjoy.

Oh, and I watched the Death Jr (on DS) trailer and I was pretty impressed. Maybe this could be a good title after all.

Darren870
05-10-2006, 01:51 PM
is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

Because it requires you to be logged into IGN to view them

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 01:59 PM
New Duck Hunt? Cool! But only if I can blow away that damn dog this time! :evil:

Did you all read that in Phantom Hourglass, everything will be stylus controlled? You point where you want Link to go, he goes there. You tap an enemy, he attacks it. You tap a box, he lifts it.

I don't know if I like the sound of that. But it's Zelda, so I know I'll still be getting it.

Hypnotuba
05-10-2006, 02:01 PM
Whoa! I didn't realize that Super Paper Mario is a platformer! Kick ass!

That was, without a doubt, the biggest shock from yesterday (for me, anyway).


Me too! I was hoping there'd be a surprise Gamecube game, and that certainly fit the bill. At least I'd never heard anything about it before. It doesn't seem like just some throwaway, the Gamecube is dead kind of game, either. At any other E3, it'd probably have been a pretty big deal. I'm looking forward to this greatly.

Plus, that DK bongo racing game could be fun, too.

Two surprise Gamecube games, hooray! :-P

petewhitley
05-10-2006, 02:06 PM
Graphics sell consoles.

Maybe to you but graphics aren't what I base my console purchases on.

Not to me either. But you and I and the rest of the DP community are not the average gamer. The average gamer who consistently demands the shiniest, prettiest Madden update. And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years. Nintendo isn't going to change that, particularly in one generation. Keep dreaming of saving your Princess.



A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?).

Honestly, I think that $499/$599 is way out of reach of an average gamer. Keep in mind that many consoles are purchased by parents for their kids. I'm sorry but most moms and dads just aren't going to fork over $600 (plus another $60 for a game) for a video game system at a time gas when gas and oil prices are at an all time high.

I guess we'll have to see. I for one don't believe that video game consoles are intrinsically so different from other consumer home electronics that they must be sold at lower price points. Americans can and do afford $600 entertainment expenses on a regular basis. I would think the PS3 fits nicely in that niche.

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 02:40 PM
For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg

FantasiaWHT
05-10-2006, 02:50 PM
And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years.

Uh, no, console sales have been driven by games and price for 20-some years. Otherwise how do you explain that the best selling consoles have NEVER been the most powerful? Oh processing power moves the market FORWARD, but it doesn't make winners.

Sorry, your argument holds no water.

Julio III
05-10-2006, 03:01 PM
For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

Oh yes, thats brilliant! This better work for the FPS games also. Now we need some other gun shooters, c'mon Sega, or maybe Time Crisis or Point Blank would be lovely. I notice that add-on comes with an analogue thumbstick too. Combined with the nunchuk that makes one stick in each hand as per this gens consoles

RegSNES
05-10-2006, 03:08 PM
For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho. I'm so gonna enjoy killing those ducks with that thing! And maybe that dog too. :P :evil:

Darren870
05-10-2006, 03:14 PM
So I was thinking about the ps3 and how weird its going to be to not have all three this time around, since I wont be getting it..

Then I realized...

I can get a premium xbox360 and a Wii for the same price as a ps3 and an extra controller.

Ha...

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 03:48 PM
Oh, that lightgun looks sweet. I just hope it doesn't become a trend that each game requires a different kind of attachment.

Okay, so IGN's E3 section has a listing for a next gen N-Gage, believe it or not. However, when I click the link it goes to a 404 page. Maybe they'll fix it later so we can all get a good laugh.

http://media.wireless.ign.com/media/827/827271/imgs_1.html

studvicious
05-10-2006, 04:31 PM
Keep dreaming of saving your Princess.

You hate Nintendo. WE GET IT. Thank you.

odyeiop
05-10-2006, 04:41 PM
@petewhitley :

I work with "the average gamer" or whatever you want to call it. Pretty much everyone I hang out with Hates the Gamecube and praised PS2.. but now loves XBox 360 more than anything. They were bashing the shit out of the revolution for a while.. but after watching the press conference, there's not ONE of them who isn't planning on getting a Wii on launch day. They all think that it's going to be the best thing ever. Now they won't shut up about that.

So, whatever ideology you have stuck in your head.. you lose. =) And I don't have to dream about saving my princess, the new Paper Mario will let me do that. Booyah.

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 04:46 PM
@petewhitley :

I work with "the average gamer" or whatever you want to call it. Pretty much everyone I hang out with Hates the Gamecube and praised PS2.. but now loves XBox 360 more than anything. They were bashing the shit out of the revolution for a while.. but after watching the press conference, there's not ONE of them who isn't planning on getting a Wii on launch day. They all think that it's going to be the best thing ever. Now they won't shut up about that.

So, whatever ideology you have stuck in your head.. you lose. =) And I don't have to dream about saving my princess, the new Paper Mario will let me do that. Booyah.

Lord, forgive me, 'cuz I know this is gonna make me sound like a GameFAQs noob, but I just can't help myself: Nintendowned! LOL

THATinkjar
05-10-2006, 05:15 PM
I've just been reading some hands-on impressions with some Wii games. I'm sure you're all doing the same. I beg you all to keep in mind that these titles are still six months from launching.

Ok. I'm done.

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 05:19 PM
Check out these screenshots for Mega Man ZX for the DS. All the different Mega Man series are starting to get a bit confusing, but it sure does look pretty.

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/794/794195/imgs_1.html

le geek
05-10-2006, 05:27 PM
@ petewhitley

I don't want to get in on the fanboy dogpile, but the average gamer is not ready to pay $500-600 for a console...period. Other than videophiles, most people don't care about HDTV and High Def DVDs yet. When a standard is is set and prices go down, maybe.

Sony will have no problem selling systems this holiday, but after that...sales will be sluggish (by Sony standards) until a price drop AND a killer app gets released.

Which sucks really, since the most current gen stuff I and my gf play is on PS2. If anything this E3 is disaapointing realizing that it will be difficult to play the great games of the new/next generation...

Cheers,
Ben

Darren870
05-10-2006, 05:35 PM
From IGN

May 9, 2006 - Nintendo of America released an official list of upcoming Wii titles and in doing so revealed several previously secret projects underway for the console. Here is the list:

Activision
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Marvel: Ulatimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3

AQ Interactive
Boxing Action

Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2

Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion

BANPRESTO
Family action game

Buena Vista Games
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action Disney's Meet the Robinsons

Capcom
Resident Evil series

D3Publisher
SIMPLE series
Original Action Game

Eidos
Title TBD

Electronic Arts
Madden NFL '07
Medal of Honor Airborne

EPOCH
Title TBD

From Software
Action Game

Genki
Title TBD

Hudson
Bomberman
Flight game

JALECO
Title TBD

Koei
Sengoku Action

Konami
Elebits
'Soccer game

Majesco
Bust-a-Move Revolution

Marvelous Interactive / Natsume
Harvest Moon Heroes
Legend of the River King original simulation

Mastiff
Mr. D Goes to Town

Midway Games
The Ant Bully
Happy Feet

Milestone
New vertical scroll shooting game
New Action Game

MTO
Character Action game
SAN-X All-star Revolution

Namco Bandai
Final Furlong
Mobile Suite Gundam
Digimon
One Piece Ulimited Adventure
New action game
New RPG
Tamagotchi
Title TBD

Nintendo
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Excite Truck
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports

SEGA
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Sonic Wild Fire

SNK Metal Slug Anthology

Spike
Necro-Nesia
Jawa

Square Enix
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

Taito
Turn it around!
Let's go by train!
Cooking Mama -Cooking with International Friends-

Tecmo
Super Swing Golf Pangya

The Game Factor
Title TBD

THQ
Avatar: The Last Airbender
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Disney/Pixar Cars

TOMY
Action Game
Battle Action

Ubisoft
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel

Vivendi Universal Games
Title TBD

Warner Bros. Interactive
Entertainment Title TBD

snes_collector
05-10-2006, 06:07 PM
From IGN

May 9, 2006 - Nintendo of America released an official list of upcoming Wii titles and in doing so revealed several previously secret projects underway for the console. Here is the list:

Activision
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Marvel: Ulatimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3

AQ Interactive
Boxing Action

Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2

Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion

BANPRESTO
Family action game

Buena Vista Games
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action Disney's Meet the Robinsons

Capcom
Resident Evil series

D3Publisher
SIMPLE series
Original Action Game

Eidos
Title TBD

Electronic Arts
Madden NFL '07
Medal of Honor Airborne

EPOCH
Title TBD

From Software
Action Game

Genki
Title TBD

Hudson
Bomberman
Flight game

JALECO
Title TBD

Koei
Sengoku Action

Konami
Elebits
'Soccer game

Majesco
Bust-a-Move Revolution

Marvelous Interactive / Natsume
Harvest Moon Heroes
Legend of the River King original simulation

Mastiff
Mr. D Goes to Town

Midway Games
The Ant Bully
Happy Feet

Milestone
New vertical scroll shooting game
New Action Game

MTO
Character Action game
SAN-X All-star Revolution

Namco Bandai
Final Furlong
Mobile Suite Gundam
Digimon
One Piece Ulimited Adventure
New action game
New RPG
Tamagotchi
Title TBD

Nintendo
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Excite Truck
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports

SEGA
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Sonic Wild Fire

SNK Metal Slug Anthology

Spike
Necro-Nesia
Jawa

Square Enix
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

Taito
Turn it around!
Let's go by train!
Cooking Mama -Cooking with International Friends-

Tecmo
Super Swing Golf Pangya

The Game Factor
Title TBD

THQ
Avatar: The Last Airbender
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Disney/Pixar Cars

TOMY
Action Game
Battle Action

Ubisoft
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel

Vivendi Universal Games
Title TBD

Warner Bros. Interactive
Entertainment Title TBD

Thanks for the list, there are quite a few games I'm interested in.

petewhitley
05-10-2006, 06:10 PM
And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years.

Uh, no, console sales have been driven by games and price for 20-some years. Otherwise how do you explain that the best selling consoles have NEVER been the most powerful? Oh processing power moves the market FORWARD, but it doesn't make winners.

Sorry, your argument holds no water.

What has been the main, significant difference then between the past, oh say, SIX GENERATIONS OF CONSOLES?

That's right, processing power. Not control style or even significantly different gameplay. We've still got platformers, they're only in 3D now. We've still got sports games, they're only in 3D now. Etc. etc. It drives the industry, and sells new systems. It makes the general public (not DP members) tuck yesterday's system in the closet for the new kid on the block.

What doesn't hold water is all the amateur market analysts here who think they can outpredict Merrill Lynch and those who are well paid to predict such things.

And no, the fact that you work at Gamestop and "all your customers will buy a Wii on launch day" doesn't mean A THING. It's anectdotal evidence. And flimsy anectdotal evidence at that.

I don't hate Nintendo. I grew up with the NES, SNES, etc. But I do hate reading over and over this fanboy drivel about how cool you are for choosing "gameplay over graphics". We get it, you're old-school/a hardcore gamer/retro whatever. Get your head out. I like gameplay AND graphics and I'm not ashamed to admit it, and it doesn't mean I don't still play my Atari 2600 that I've had since I was 5yrs old. I question how anyone can truly "love video games" and proclaim that "Sony is ruining the industry" or that someone has been "Nintendowned". It's ridiculous, petty, and reflects badly upon the more mature gamers who are in this for the joy of gaming, not bragging rights.

Famidrive-16
05-10-2006, 06:27 PM
News - Square Enix press conference concluded.
Posted by Josh Freund at 04:50:04 PM EST on 5.8.2006.

Square Enix's conference, which basically kicks off the pre-E3 conferences, is taking place right now in LA. So far, they've shown game footage of various titles and announced some release dates, but we're still waiting for potential surprises.

Here are the US release dates revealed so far:

Valkyrie Profile Lenneth (PSP) - July 18
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (PS2) - August 22. US version will contain some new features.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime (DS) - September
Final Fantasy III (DS) - September
Valkyrie Profile Silmeria (PS2) - September
Final Fantasy XII (PS2) - October

So far, trailers/videos of Dawn of Mana, Children of Mana, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime, Valkyrie Profile Lenneth, and the latest Final Fantasy XI expansion have been shown, along with a loooong Final Fantasy XII English trailer.

Update #1 - Wow, huge news! Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors was just shown; it's going to be a launch title for the Wii.

Update #2 - Two new Crystal Chronicles games coming. One for the DS called Ring of Fates utilizing Wi-Fi for multiplayer. The other is for Wii.

Update #3 - The Wii title is Chrystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers and is a launch title. Also, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII have been announced for PS3. Yes, two different FFXIII's announced. The first is presumably the normal FFXII, starring a sword and gun wielding female character. It will take place in what they call the most advanced civilization featured in a Final Fantasy game. Final Fantasy Versus XIII sounds like a side-story. SE is emphasizing that in latin 'versus' means to change direction. But wait, that's not all. There will also be a Final Fantasy XIII for mobile devices.

(source: http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6333)

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 06:29 PM
@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

hezeuschrist
05-10-2006, 06:54 PM
@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

I think you guys are on two different levels.

He's right, graphical prowess does push someone to buy a new system but as of this current generation and the upcoming generation there are far, far more variables that have major impacts on sales. The total sales of any given system are based on those variables, the total sales of a generation are largely (not all) due to a consumers desire for something that simply looks better. The difference in graphical quality between the competitors being one of those variables.

Theres no doubt the Xbox won many fanboys with it's "best performance" last generation, but when it comes down to actually purchasing a console even the most casual gamer will look at what games they do and don't want to play.

But now it's totally different. The price of the PS3 and the control scheme/lack of raw power in the Wii are two things the market has never encountered before and it'll be nigh impossible to predict "standings" among the big three in 2009.

What you can count on though is that Nintendo and Sony both have amazing marketing talents. Sony is a no brainer, they're the masters of spin as has been noted previously. They'll likely take the price point of the PS3 vs. the price of the 360 and make consumers think that it's literally TWICE as good because it's literally TWICE the price. And they've got enough trust in the mass market that people will believe it.

Nintendo has taken the DS from a niche market to really poking into the mass non-gamer market with games like Nintendogs and Brain Age. They're experienced in reaching that non-gamer market now and they'll use that to their full ability to push the Wii to a different level.

Nintendo will be the exception to the rule of graphical power, but even still it will be an enhancement over last gen and they'll likely get a LOT of sales at launch from users who simply want a better looking Zelda than they could get on the Cube.

Joker T
05-10-2006, 06:55 PM
Tony Hawk's Project 8 announced :D

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706962p1.html

Griking
05-10-2006, 07:41 PM
is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

They load fine for me. I'm using Firefox if that has anything to do with it.

Lothars
05-10-2006, 07:44 PM
@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

I think you guys are on two different levels.

He's right, graphical prowess does push someone to buy a new system but as of this current generation and the upcoming generation there are far, far more variables that have major impacts on sales. The total sales of any given system are based on those variables, the total sales of a generation are largely (not all) due to a consumers desire for something that simply looks better. The difference in graphical quality between the competitors being one of those variables.

Theres no doubt the Xbox won many fanboys with it's "best performance" last generation, but when it comes down to actually purchasing a console even the most casual gamer will look at what games they do and don't want to play.

But now it's totally different. The price of the PS3 and the control scheme/lack of raw power in the Wii are two things the market has never encountered before and it'll be nigh impossible to predict "standings" among the big three in 2009.

What you can count on though is that Nintendo and Sony both have amazing marketing talents. Sony is a no brainer, they're the masters of spin as has been noted previously. They'll likely take the price point of the PS3 vs. the price of the 360 and make consumers think that it's literally TWICE as good because it's literally TWICE the price. And they've got enough trust in the mass market that people will believe it.

Nintendo has taken the DS from a niche market to really poking into the mass non-gamer market with games like Nintendogs and Brain Age. They're experienced in reaching that non-gamer market now and they'll use that to their full ability to push the Wii to a different level.

Nintendo will be the exception to the rule of graphical power, but even still it will be an enhancement over last gen and they'll likely get a LOT of sales at launch from users who simply want a better looking Zelda than they could get on the Cube.


I agree 100% with your post there,

I do think the price point for the PS3 is high that's not to say that they couldn't just be trying to gauge reaction on it and than drop the price but I doubt that to,

It's gonna be an interesting generation and no matter what there won't be one clear winner

though I plan to have at least either a 360/ps3 and a Wii probaly all 3 if possible

but it's probaly not feasible, we shall see

It's gonna be an interesting generation

and System Power does define some things but it's definitly not the be all and end all.

segagamer4life
05-10-2006, 07:49 PM
is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

Because it requires you to be logged into IGN to view them


oh, thanks for the heads up.. damn that stinks...

Slate
05-10-2006, 08:20 PM
Tony Hawk's Project 8 announced :D

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706962p1.html

:o

HOLY....

Those graphics are CRAZY! THP8 (Beforehand known as Downhill Jam) Is on my Must buy list when i get a 360!

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

Joker T
05-10-2006, 08:50 PM
Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

You are correct. Downhill Jam is for the Wii, Project 8 is for the 360 and I'm guessing the other primary systems.

keiblerfan69
05-10-2006, 08:55 PM
Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

You are correct. Downhill Jam is for the Wii, Project 8 is for the 360 and I'm guessing the other primary systems.

Project 8 is for PS3, PS2, PSP, XBOX and XBOX 360.

Anthony1
05-10-2006, 09:54 PM
I just got done watching the full versions of the Wii videos, and I must say that Nintendo couldn't have gotten goofier looking actors if they tried. Those people looked really, dumb, and really gay, and I must say that I was embarrased for Nintendo while watching it. The whole people with spiked hair and all that crap, just made me LOL, not in a good way.


Bottom line, the videos are very, very goofy. Especially the humans playing the games. Everybody looked dumb.


The other thing that I got from it, was the fact that the graphics for the Wii suck. Plain and simple. And please, don't barrage me with all the "That's all you care about? Graphics? How sad is that?". Save all that shit, ok. Sure, I know that it's all about the gameplay, but you have to admit that the Wii looks like it has Xbox 1 graphics, for a next gen system releasing late in 2006, it's downright embarassing. The graphics for Mario look no better than Mario Sunshine and Mario 64, what the F is up with that? Come on, this system has to have much more power than that, where is the power? The Metroid game looks just like the current Metroids on the GameCube. And don't even get me started on the Golf and Baseball games, pathetic.


I was actually somewhat excited about the Wii, just because I thought that maybe there would be a kick ass game that involves swordfighting or lightsabers or something. I guess Red Steel or whatever, is kinda like that, but still, I'm not as excited about the Wii as I was. The graphics just seem so far below the 360 and PS3, it's almost laughable.


Again, I totally understand that graphics are only screen deep, and that it's all about the gameplay, but like I've always said before, incredible graphics and deep and solid gameplay are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. Also, although I'm somewhat of a graphics whore, I can't be 100 percent graphics whore, because I still love games like Cybermorph for the Jaguar and Sega Rally for the Saturn. The graphics on those games suck bigtime, but that doesn't stop me from loving them. Thus, while the graphics of the Wii are a huge letdown, it doesn't mean the games are going to suck or anything, but for me to say that I'm not horribly dissapointed in the Wii, would be an outright lie.

joshnickerson
05-10-2006, 10:15 PM
Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html

Anthony1
05-10-2006, 10:26 PM
Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html


eh, I've never been a Smash Brothers fan, so that doesn't do anything for me. All I really want from Nintendo is a Mario game that is as good as Jak and Daxter 3 or Ratchet and Clank 3 or crap like that. The idea of playing a Mario game with that controller doesn't appeal to me. Basically, I want a Mario 64 on horse steroids. I thought that Mario Sunshine was going to be that game, and then that game turned out to be Mario 64 1.5 :Stuck on an island. The graphics of Mario Sunshine were a major dissapointment to me, and I wasn't a big fan of the whole water spout thing, and I also didn't like to be stuck on an island. I want to see a ton of different worlds. Super Mario World is my all time favorite game, and Mario 64 was absolutely revolutionary for it's time, and it was the perfect way to bring Mario into the world of 3D, but since then, it's been all downhill. When I first heard about Super Mario Galaxy, I was incredibly pumped up and excited, but after watching the video of it, I'm quite dissapointed. I'm sure I'll still play the thing from start to finish, and I'm sure it's probably fun and everything, but it's not what I was dreaming of.

Famidrive-16
05-10-2006, 10:32 PM
Smash screens:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-revealed-for-wii-featuring-solid-snake/

diskoboy
05-10-2006, 10:55 PM
Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

kainemaxwell
05-10-2006, 11:01 PM
Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.
That's some of the best news yet!

Rev. Link
05-10-2006, 11:03 PM
Snake! SNAAAAAKE!!!! Freakin' awesome! Man, Solid Snake in Smash Bros.! This has to be up there as one of the biggest surprises of E3.

Plus, if you want some news of the others systems, bring something up worth talking about. It's hard to get excited about a $600 system.

keiblerfan69
05-10-2006, 11:05 PM
Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Well Shadow Run looks amazing. I like what they are doing with Vista so that games on PC will earn you achievement points. Also I think Shadowrun-PC vs. Shadowrun-360 is a great idea.

hezeuschrist
05-10-2006, 11:05 PM
Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

Darren870
05-10-2006, 11:09 PM
Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

I dont think many people are pumed for the ps3...thats probably why.

studvicious
05-10-2006, 11:28 PM
Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

Bingo.

Snapple
05-11-2006, 12:23 AM
CJayC over on GameFAQs just made a post after he got back from E3. He said he wasn't sold on the Wii until he actually played it. Now that he's played it, he says it basically exceeded all expectations, and that it looks like the best next-gen console right now. He also said he thinks most other people will believe in the Wii once retailers get playable kiosks up to show how fun the controller is.


Oh, and hezeus hit the nail on the head. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy by any stretch of means. I love my PS2 much more than my Gamecube, but PS3 hasn't unveiled anything interesting besides the price. When they show something mind-blowing besides some cookie cutter shooter or some cookie cutter racing game, the games will be worth commenting on. The Wii stole E3, whether or not it is the better console remains to be seen, but it clearly had a better show than Sony.

badinsults
05-11-2006, 12:57 AM
Man, the idea behind Disaster - Day of Crisis sounds absolutely killer:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=139530



But still, the games of the show for me are Yoshi's Island 2 and Super Paper Mario. Platforming goodness has finally returned!

RegSNES
05-11-2006, 02:35 AM
At work today I was a bit bummed knowing I wouldn't be able to play Metal Gear Solid 4 and Virtua Fighter 5. I love those series but not enough to shell out $600. Then I saw a trailer for what will be the sequel to one of my all-time favorite games: Super Smash Bros. Brawl. It has Pit. PIT!!! Nintendo must have been reading my messages on the net about new characters for a SSB game. And we have Meta-Knight!! SOLID SNAKE!! Too good. I'm hoping Little Mac will be a new character as well.

I am all over Nintendo's Wii and yes, that pun was 100% intended.

The 360 version of Tony Hawk P8 looks sick.

Rev. Link
05-11-2006, 03:04 AM
I just watched the SSBB trailer again. It makes me want to cry when I see it! It's a shame that won't be a launch title now. People have been clamoring for Pit to be in this series since the first one. I hope this means we'll finally be seeing Kid Icarus 3 soon.

Little Mac would be an excellent addition to the game, but I still want pig Gannon! More than anything else, though, I hope they give each character a unique move set this time, unlike the hidden characters in SSBM.

THATinkjar
05-11-2006, 03:51 AM
Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html

Wario! Bloody Nintendogs!! Absolutely awesome!!! I can't believe Snake is there, too!

The graphics look really sweet, too! Can't friggin' wait!!!

Fuyukaze
05-11-2006, 03:52 AM
The last home console system Nintendo released which I gave a damn about was the SNES. That said, I honestly look forward to the Wii. From the price point to the controler to the downloads and the graphics, there isnt a thing I dont like about it. I know some members here look at the $500-$600 and think it's just a quarter to half their paycheck and think it's no big expense, but I see that amount and realize that's nearly an entire months income for me. I dont make alot of money and that price is beyond my means. Do I hate Sony? No, I dont. Between the PS1 and PS2 I own almost 200 games. If I hated them so much, I wouldnt own half that number. If anything one would think I hated Microsoft from my lack of support for the x-box. I have less then 30 games for it, yet I dont hate it. It doesnt matter to me if Tom, Dick, and Jane all go out and buy a PS3 at launch instead of the Wii. I think I'll be more happy with the Wii then anything the PS3 has to offer because from what I've seen so far, everything the PS3 has to offer is done better by everyone else.

Lothars
05-11-2006, 04:47 AM
everything the PS3 has to offer is done better by everyone else.


Honestly that's a lie

we have no idea how the online will be 0.........plus there's the unknown factor of blu-ray

will it be as good as live? probaly not but will it be bad I doubt it

but to say everything is just a misguided statement0......

though to be honest I am looking at a 360 than eventually a ps3 because I still want the PS3, even though the best thing they could do is drop the price lower than 599, just before launch which would honestly do alot for the momentum

THATinkjar
05-11-2006, 04:55 AM
Whoa! IGN are suggesting that Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin on the Nintendo DS could be the BEST EVER Castlevania.

It is a shame to read that Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Galaxy won't be launch titles.