who's parents said games would get them nowhere but make $ re-selling

[mailman187666]

I remember my dad used to yell at me all the time over videogames and that they were a waste of time and would never be worth anything (around 1990). Now since I've showed my father how much profit I've made off of e-bay, he is very supportive (plus I'm 24yo and don't live with him anymore.) Anyone else have similar stories?

[Ed Oscuro]

My story is that I didn't have a game system as a kid, and as a result I know things.

Of course, I'm slowly working against myself as the years go by and I spend more time with games... ;)

[Kitsune Sniper]

Mom is still in awe of how much money I can make selling used games on eBay.

It doesn't stop her from complaining about the tons of boxes I keep around, though. ;P

[jajaja]

Mom is still in awe of how much money I can make selling used games on eBay.

It doesn't stop her from complaining about the tons of boxes I keep around, though. ;P

lol same here :) I sometimes make quite alot of money reselling, but my mom is still complaining about the boxes thats everywhere around the house. I move soon tho so all the boxes are going with me hehe.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

Not many people can say that video games got them somewhere. Selling stuff on eBay is not exactly a career to be proud of. If your parents are supportive, it's probably just because they're afraid that otherwise their 20-something year old son will move back into their basement.

I guess if you're a programmer or publisher or something, then maybe video games got you somewhere and I know a ocuple people who make a decent living as game "journalists," but that's about the limit of it.

The only things video games have gotten me are incredibly fast reflexes and social anxiety disorder.


...word is bondage...

[jajaja]

Selling stuff on eBay is not exactly a career to be proud of.

Why not? You can actually make a living selling stuff on Ebay.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Not many people can say that video games got them somewhere. Selling stuff on eBay is not exactly a career to be proud of. If your parents are supportive, it's probably just because they're afraid that otherwise their 20-something year old son will move back into their basement.

I guess if you're a programmer or publisher or something, then maybe video games got you somewhere and I know a ocuple people who make a decent living as game "journalists," but that's about the limit of it.

The only things video games have gotten me are incredibly fast reflexes and social anxiety disorder.

Why not? In a week, I can make about four times what I would make if I broke my back in a factory down here for A MONTH.

I would love to do nothing more than translate. That's what I studied, and that's what I love to do. But I can't. So until I can get my degree and a permit to translate in the US of A, I will keep selling stuff.

(And I buy and resell games. I don't sell the stuff I own. :P)

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

Why not? You can actually make a living selling stuff on Ebay.
Yeah, you can make a living scrounging scrap metal or cooking methamphetamine, too, but those aren't exactly careers to be proud of either. Hey, I'm not putting anyone down, I'm not proud of my job at all. In fact, you know, video games are probably responsible for my crappy job, too. Either them or marijuana.


...word is bondage...

[zer0cool]

This is alittle of topic but ... id like to see even one game reseller on ebay charge actual shipping. From trading games i know what it cost and none of the resellers come close. I really hate the shipping rates people charge on there. If i found someone with actual shipping id buy tons from them...as long as they didnt try to make it up with a higher starting price or bin..anyhow..

[Nebagram]

I remember my dad used to yell at me all the time over videogames and that they were a waste of time and would never be worth anything (around 1990). Now since I've showed my father how much profit I've made off of e-bay, he is very supportive (plus I'm 24yo and don't live with him anymore.) Anyone else have similar stories?

Your dad used to yell at his 8-year old child for playing with toys? :-/

[Ed Oscuro]

In a week, I can make about four times what I would make if I broke my back in a factory down here for A MONTH.
"I can see your MIT education really pays for itself." - Barney

[DreamTR]

zerocool: If you add in actual packaging costs and the fact that if it is business, time and labor are involved, there is a "fee" for it. If no one was selling them for a small upfree for handling charges, then ebay would have a SERIOUS problem, people would not sell, then there would be no one to buy anything. I'm actually really sick of the argument because you have a choice. Add up the bid and add up the shipping cost. If you don't like it, don't bid, simple as that. There was some moron on the Atariage Forums stating that the reason eBay hikes their fees is because of the "rip-off" and "fleecing" sellers do to eBay so they can avoid fees.

I'm sorry, but eBay and PayPal rape everyone enough as it is, and like what happened to Adol, they don't protect the seller or the buyer in some instances. I recall one instance where I lost $600 from some eBay auction, Only got $200 back from eBay's "protection" policy, and $34.01 from the guy's PayPal account before he took it and ran. SInce he has a bank account (the guy that ripped me off) I asked PayPal why they did not withdraw from his bank account to get the funds? Their response? They could not do that, but If I give them anymore information about the person, then they will be grateful. THEY WILL BE grateful? I'm sorry, they should be trying to get my money back, it's their fucking service. Whatever, that's why I don't buy into the eBay/PayPal fees "sellers" are responsible for all fees BS. Yeah, we all know that's the truth, but if these people actually SOLD as much as these guys do on eBay instead of complaining about shipping, maybe we'd hear something different.

I charge a fair amount for shipping. $5 on DVD type games. MY bubble mailers cost me around $0.90, and extra tape, shipping supplies, first class mail with D/C, etc, and my $5 is covered.

[jajaja]

Yeah, you can make a living scrounging scrap metal or cooking methamphetamine, too, but those aren't exactly careers to be proud of either. Hey, I'm not putting anyone down, I'm not proud of my job at all. In fact, you know, video games are probably responsible for my crappy job, too. Either them or marijuana.


...word is bondage...

I dont see why it matters if you sell metal or houses if you make the same or even more selling metal. Both things makes you a businessman. Anyway, do what you want the most.

[zer0cool]

I know i have a choise and i choose not to buy stuff often. Im not quite sure what your story about being ripped off has to do with anything though.. unless your saying that your are passing off the cost to others who buy from you to recover some of the cost?Maybe i miss understood.

So ok 5 dollars for shipping covers a 90 cent mailer plus the other sutff.At my post office they have tape there you can use ..free of charge.But ok lets say that 5 dollars for one item is resonable ... why then 2.50-3.00(i dont know what you charge this is just an average of what ive seen alot)for each additional item.Its not that much more and ebay and paypal fees arent that high(specially for games that can sell as low as .99 or even a penny in some cases).I cant see anyway to justify 10-12 dollars shipping for 3 games,atleast not to me.But like you said i have a choice and so do others....others apparently choose to buy so you get their business.Dont get all mad at me for stating my opinion.

[irata]

If you mean currently purchasing and reselling, then yes, some people do make some money off it.

But if I were to sell those games I got as a kid, i'd actually lose money. Selling games my parents bought me wouldn't really count as I never purchased them; it's very easy to make money by selling things you have no monetary investment in. But if I sold the games I bought as a kid, like all those NES games at $50 each, there's no way I could recoup those costs. Especially factor in inflation and I'd lose money hand over fist.

The depreciation of most games (and systems) is massive, who would buy a 3DO for more than $700 now, or essentially any system for more than its debut MSRP? There certainly are exceptions, but not the majority.

[6502]

I charge a fair amount for shipping. $5 on DVD type games. MY bubble mailers cost me around $0.90, and extra tape, shipping supplies, first class mail with D/C, etc, and my $5 is covered.

You need to shop around for your shipping materials then. Paying ninety cents for a bubble mailer is absurd, unless you're buying them individually from Office Max or something. First class mail at the max weight (which a DVD game is nowhere near) tops out at $3.27. Delivery confirmation for first class is sixty cents. Priority mail under a pound (and almost all games will fall into this category) can be sent for $4.55 with delivery confirmation, and the post office will provide you with all the boxes you need for free.

Find a box supplier (every large city should have some) and you should be able to procure appropriately sized cardboard boxes strong enough for media mail shipments for under fifty cents each. I used to prefer Half.com because they enforced standard shipping rates. A few years back when I sold a lot of games I could ship a single CD or DVD based game via media mail in a sturdy cardboard box with styrofoam peanuts for under two bucks. The rates that some sellers charge on eBay for shipping is ridiculous, it's obvious that they're trying to pad their profits by inflating shipping costs.

[raregamergirl]

You obviously don't sell enough to know the true cost to ship things. First of all, a lot of the larger video game sellers have to pay employees to package those items. Have you ever packaged an item? It takes a good six minutes including printing off the address and getting the item in the mailer and writing the address. That translates to $1 you are paying someone to package that alone. Thats not even counting getting the item to the post office and waiting in the lines.
$5 for one item? Thats VERY fair. That is what I charge right now and its honestly not enough. After paying employees packaging items, delivery confirmation, bubble mailers, extra bubble wrap, first class postage and other random materials (boxes if necessary, tape etc), I am not gaining a single cent. If anything, on average I LOSE money charging $5 for a single item.

[bangtango]

I know i have a choise and i choose not to buy stuff often. Im not quite sure what your story about being ripped off has to do with anything though.. unless your saying that your are passing off the cost to others who buy from you to recover some of the cost?Maybe i miss understood.

So ok 5 dollars for shipping covers a 90 cent mailer plus the other sutff.At my post office they have tape there you can use ..free of charge.But ok lets say that 5 dollars for one item is resonable ... why then 2.50-3.00(i dont know what you charge this is just an average of what ive seen alot)for each additional item.Its not that much more and ebay and paypal fees arent that high(specially for games that can sell as low as .99 or even a penny in some cases).I cant see anyway to justify 10-12 dollars shipping for 3 games,atleast not to me.But like you said i have a choice and so do others....others apparently choose to buy so you get their business.Dont get all mad at me for stating my opinion.

This is in reference to your post and the $5 rate for shipping the average dvd sized game.

Not every post office just lets you use free tape. Mine sure as hell doesn't. What you are describing is the exception, not the rule. Yes, a clerk will allow you to tape up a priority mail box or something you pick up there. However you can't show up in line with a big pile of stuff to mail in your own packages and expect to get everything taped up.

This is a lot like an argument I've read around here before in which post offices also provide you with free packing materials. How many really do that? Newspapers and Walmart fliers from the recycle bins don't count.

Don't forget that some people like to package their stuff at home before going to the post office.

For the average game, you will have the 90 cent envelope, a delivery confirmation around 60 cents along with the Ebay fees. Assuming Paypal was used, there are fees there, too. Round that to about $1.80-2.00. Add in first class shipping and you've hit at least $3. At the very most, the seller might have $1.80 or so left over, sometimes less. As for mailing something, there is the drive to the post office and waiting in line. Some people have to run there on their lunch break or at the end of a work day. I don't have a problem with the seller "keeping the change" for their trouble, so I think that the $5 shipping previously mentioned is fair. Is that really raping a buyer?

You ought to direct some of your concerns to the type of guy who charges $20 to ship a Genesis 3 system and you know there are some of those on Ebay.

[bangtango]

You need to shop around for your shipping materials then. Paying ninety cents for a bubble mailer is absurd, unless you're buying them individually from Office Max or something. First class mail at the max weight (which a DVD game is nowhere near) tops out at $3.27. Delivery confirmation for first class is sixty cents. Priority mail under a pound (and almost all games will fall into this category) can be sent for $4.55 with delivery confirmation, and the post office will provide you with all the boxes you need for free.

Find a box supplier (every large city should have some) and you should be able to procure appropriately sized cardboard boxes strong enough for media mail shipments for under fifty cents each. I used to prefer Half.com because they enforced standard shipping rates. A few years back when I sold a lot of games I could ship a single CD or DVD based game via media mail in a sturdy cardboard box with styrofoam peanuts for under two bucks. The rates that some sellers charge on eBay for shipping is ridiculous, it's obvious that they're trying to pad their profits by inflating shipping costs.

All some people want to do is sell a game. They don't want to shop around for the best possible prices for packing materials and shipping, particularly if it is someone who works a regular job and sells games on the side. It doesn't mean they are trying to rip someone off.

I don't see the point in spending 2-3 hours trying to figure out ways to cut, at most, $1.00-1.50 off of the shipping price if all you are doing is reselling a game you found in Goodwill or EB.

People who complain about reasonable shipping rates are the same people who have never lost money on shipping. I have taken a bath at least a couple of times by listening to a buyer and making concessions that left my hands tied. You can't just say "Oh, you're going to make some money off the item price itself so you can use some of that to cut down on my shipping costs." Doesn't always work that way! I've ended up in the red at least a couple of times before and want to make sure I at least profit if I have an item that ends up selling for a cent.

[Kitsune Sniper]

This is in reference to your post and the $5 rate for shipping the average dvd sized game.

Not every post office just lets you use free tape. Mine sure as hell doesn't. What you are describing is the exception, not the rule. Yes, a clerk will allow you to tape up a priority mail box or something you pick up there. However you can't show up in line with a big pile of stuff to mail in your own packages and expect to get everything taped up.

This is a lot like an argument I've read around here before in which post offices also provide you with free packing materials. How many really do that? Newspapers and Walmart fliers from the recycle bins don't count.

Don't forget that some people like to package their stuff at home before going to the post office.

For the average game, you will have the 90 cent envelope, a delivery confirmation around 60 cents along with the Ebay fees. Assuming Paypal was used, there are fees there, too. Round that to about $1.80-2.00. Add in first class shipping and you've hit at least $3. At the very most, the seller might have $1.80 or so left over, sometimes less. As for mailing something, there is the drive to the post office and waiting in line. Some people have to run there on their lunch break or at the end of a work day. I don't have a problem with the seller "keeping the change" for their trouble, so I think that the $5 shipping previously mentioned is fair. Is that really raping a buyer?

You ought to direct some of your concerns to the type of guy who charges $20 to ship a Genesis 3 system and you know there are some of those on Ebay.

My local post office charges $3.50 for a roll of tape. I can get one that's twice as big at the DOLLAR STORE. The post office only gives out free Priority Mail boxes, everything else has insane prices. I can buy an 8x8x8 box at Wal-Mart for ninety cents. The USPS has them for two dollars. Or you can get the Priority ones free through the internet.

The markup on my items is usually enough to cover the eBay and Paypal fees. I don't go around and charge fifteen bucks for a game that won't cost more than $4.50 to ship, and I only ship Priority and First Class, I don't rip people off with Media Mail.

Edit:
Sorry, I didn't mean to yell at -you-, bangtango. It looks that way, but it's not meant that way.

[coreycorey2000]

I agree $5 for a game is fair (at least if you live in canada). I sell quite a few games online. It costs me $1 plus tax on average for a bubble mailer ($0.5-$1.25) depending on size. $3-$3.85 for shipping depending on the post office I go to. YES it varies depending on the post office! If I send a game (SNES, N64 anything thicker than a dvd case) within Canada it costs me $7 just for shipping. I lose money on half of the parcels I ship. I do most of my shipping online to save a few cents. I even buy things in bulk. But that still doesn't cut it.

I sold a game to someone who lived 4 hours away. I told them shipping would be $7 or $8. They said no way $5US will more than cover it. It cost me $7 plus a bubble mailer. And that doesn't even take my time or gas into account.

Shipping isn't as cheap as it used to be!

[nebrazca78]

You obviously don't sell enough to know the true cost to ship things. First of all, a lot of the larger video game sellers have to pay employees to package those items. Have you ever packaged an item? It takes a good six minutes including printing off the address and getting the item in the mailer and writing the address. That translates to $1 you are paying someone to package that alone. Thats not even counting getting the item to the post office and waiting in the lines.
$5 for one item? Thats VERY fair. That is what I charge right now and its honestly not enough. After paying employees packaging items, delivery confirmation, bubble mailers, extra bubble wrap, first class postage and other random materials (boxes if necessary, tape etc), I am not gaining a single cent. If anything, on average I LOSE money charging $5 for a single item.

How is it some of you seem to lose money on shipping and charge $5? I charge $3 for Media Mail plus $1 for each additional game. I have it set up to pay for all of my Paypal/eBay fees plus supplies. When I sell cartridge only games I actually make money from the shipping no matter what. Also, if you have at least one Priority package the USPS will pick up all of your packages for free so you don't have to go to the post office.

[Kitsune Sniper]

How is it some of you seem to lose money on shipping and charge $5? I charge $3 for Media Mail plus $1 for each additional game. I have it set up to pay for all of my Paypal/eBay fees plus supplies. When I sell cartridge only games I actually make money from the shipping no matter what. Also, if you have at least one Priority package the USPS will pick up all of your packages for free so you don't have to go to the post office.
My local post office will not let anyone ship items via Media Mail. I have enough problems when I ship stuff via Book Rate as it is! They won't let me even approach the counter unless I bring the package OPENED so they can inspect them.

[bangtango]

My local post office charges $3.50 for a roll of tape. I can get one that's twice as big at the DOLLAR STORE. The post office only gives out free Priority Mail boxes, everything else has insane prices. I can buy an 8x8x8 box at Wal-Mart for ninety cents. The USPS has them for two dollars. Or you can get the Priority ones free through the internet.

The markup on my items is usually enough to cover the eBay and Paypal fees. I don't go around and charge fifteen bucks for a game that won't cost more than $4.50 to ship, and I only ship Priority and First Class, I don't rip people off with Media Mail.

Edit:
Sorry, I didn't mean to yell at -you-, bangtango. It looks that way, but it's not meant that way.

Don't worry, I didn't assume you were yelling at me.

The thing is, everybody assumes that a dollar store is within driving distance of the average seller. Two dollar stores are 35 minutes away from me and another is 20-25. I'm not driving all that way for tape just because someone is mad I am charging $4-5 to ship a game instead of $1-2. I have to get tape at a place within a reasonable driving distance and sometimes that is either a supermarket or post office.

I don't normally use media mail for games. Some post offices, or certain clerks, give you a ration of shit and try to force parcel post or priority mail on you. So my shipping costs factor in the fact I will be using first class, priority or parcel post, depending on what I am selling.

If people have such a problem with buyers using media mail to ship a game, then report the seller to Ebay. Last I checked, the post office did not include video games in the list of items that can be shipped via media mail. So I assume it isn't even permitted, though Gamestop uses it, so who knows? I don't list media mail in any of my video game auctions largely because I am worried about being reported and having Ebay breathing down my neck or taking down my listing. Furthermore, I don't ship any of my Ebay items media mail, unless I am selling cd's.

[Kid Ice]

Sooo.....selling a few games on ebay is "getting somewhere"?

Dad: "Junior, I never thought you'd amount to anything until you got $87 for Chrono Trigger on ebay."

[mb7241]

Following the seeming track of this thread...I usually list enough games at once (10+) to avoid making multiple separate trips to the post office, and charge only $3 each to ship them first-class with delivery confirmation. My bubble envelopes are 5 for $2.88, actual shipping usually runs about $1.75-$2.15 per game, and the cost of gas being as it is, about $3 to get to the post office (or 30¢ per game). Yes, it's true, I don't usually make any money off shipping something...unless it's going overseas, in which case I'll usually end up overestimating (and I have no real idea how...it just ends up that way). The only reason I use media mail is to ship strategy guides...that's it. Everything else goes first-class (which in some cases turns out cheaper than media).

Back on topic, my parents used to wonder why I spent so much on old NES, SNES, and PS1 games when I was younger (16-20 years old)... I'd always tell them I could sell it for more, make a few bucks, you know. They'd always ask why I wouldn't sell it...I'd never answer them. Earlier this year, though, I started selling bits and pieces of the collection, and I quickly made around $2000 just from that. Now I tell them what I make from selling these "older" games vs. what I originally gave for them back a few years ago, and they're amazed. I recently paid $2 for a cart-only Metal Warriors SNES, ex-rental...turned around almost immediately and sold it to a member here, as well as a ton of other great stuff (his total was $575). So now, my parents just complain about how much stuff I manage to pack into two small rooms in the basement...all they can complain about, really.

[RadiantSvgun]

Dude, my parents hated video games ever since I was 12. I'm a 22 college senior now, and they have become addicted to my Wii!

[dcescott]

My wife was a doomsayer until I started to bring home some extra bacon to the table. Ebay is not a good way to inflate a price. It's a supply and demand market. Folks drive the prices up like it's a drug.

Anyhoo, what got her to understand why I started selling games on ebay partime mind you. I had some rare games for the NES, one being Big Nose Freaks Out, nes cart style. No biggie but buying it for 3 bucks and reselling it for 27.00 got her attention. I needed a new computer at the time, so I told her I 'm gonna place some of my rare games up on ebay. I got a hold of her in the final seconds and she watched the prices jump up from folks trying to outsnipe each other. Since then, she hasn't said a word, even when I go to the flea market every Saturday. She knows I'll find a good buy and triple my investment. I like to generate money from the ebay stash to find more goodies.
Essentially, ebay paid for my wii this year and most of Christmas. No complaints from the wife anymore!

[6502]

@raregamergirl: I completed over 1200 transactions via eBay and Half.com a couple years ago when I was getting rid of a significant portion of my collection. I don't know if you ever sold anything via Half.com before, but they used to enforce a standard shipping rate (I haven't sold anything via them since 2004, so I don't know if they still work that way). They had a standard rate (equivalent to media mail), a faster rate (priority or first class worked well there), and so on. About half of my transactions were on Half.com. I wanted to make darn sure that I wasn't losing any money on shipping. I calculated all my material costs, which is why I sought out suppliers of cheap cardboard boxes and other shipping materials. Over hundreds or thousands of transactions, fifty cents or a buck saved per sale adds up. Seriously, if you're paying ninety cents or a dollar on bubble mailers, you are leaving money on the table. You can buy cardboard mailers for CD and DVD sized items for half that.

That time when I was selling off a large part of my collection, I was thinking about trying a full-fledged eBay business. It took me about a year to thin out my collection, during which I kept track of all my costs (including my time) to see if I could do this full-time and make a go of it, because frankly I did not enjoy my regular job. Now, the issue of getting a steady supply of merchandise to resell was one of the major reasons I decided not to go through with it, but I had shipping pretty well figured out. And yes, if you are selling in volume and are losing money shipping at $5.00 an item, you are doing something wrong. That includes material costs and your time (or someone else's time if you hire some kids and pay them minimum wage to pack your stuff). Half enforced a really low shipping rate (less than three dollars for game-sized items), and I did not lose money on shipping.

As for going to the post office, using gas and standing in line, etc. As nebrazca78 mentioned, if you ship a priority mail item, the post office will pick up at your house. I hardly ever went to the post office, unless I had some special shipping situation. Even if I was mostly shipping via media mail, shipping one item via priority if I had made no sales that week requesting it wasn't a big deal. I'm using current prices here, but you can ship a game in a priority mail box (which the post office will provide FREE) to zones 1-8 for $4.55 including delivery confirmation. Just one priority mail shipment and you can send whatever else you want when the postman comes to pick up. Media mail? I (fortunately it seems) never encountered the Nazi-like postal workers others have run into. I either wrote "media mail" and what type of item it was (CD or DVD) on the packages or (later after I had gotten a stamp) stamped it, and had zero problems shipping my items including pickup at my house as long as I also sent at least a priority mail package.

And for someone who asked whether video games can be sent via media mail: yes, they can. From the USPS DMM 173.3.2.i "Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such media." is eligible for media mail.

[bangtango]

I see your point, 6502. However, please keep two things in mind.

raregamergirl pays other people to handle, pack and ship items. She doesn't do this herself, from what I have read of her previous threads.

As for myself, I have a 100% feedback rating on Ebay with over 250 transactions. However, I don't sell often enough to go out of my way to whittle down the shipping cost by 50 cents to a dollar. I sell when it is convenient for me. I'm not a business, just an everyday Joe. I don't print out shipping labels through Paypal, my printer has been out of ink for two weeks anyway and I'm still waiting for a shipment from Dell. I usually address everything by hand. I don't scour dollar stores or office supply stores to get envelopes or tape in bulk to store away, since I misplace things like that if they lay around my house too long and I end up having to rebuy them anyway. The ideas you have are very good for a power seller or someone wanting to do it for a living but I might sell 1-2 items a month on Ebay. I have two jobs and I don't want to experience a total headache just to list an item and make a cut-and-dry sale.

Please note than anytime I sell an item which normally goes for $20 or above, I almost always offer free shipping on the auction just to get a few extra bids. So I certainly don't rip off people on higher priced items. I do set certain shipping costs for items which will sell for a lot less, but they are hardly sky high prices.

I sold a lot/bundle of 17 Sega games (assorted systems) on Ebay awhile back which I charged 7 bucks for shipping via parcel post, including delivery confirmation. Some of them were Saturn games and boxed Genesis games. Even if you are selling 17 loose Game Gear games, $7 for shipping is hardly highway robbery if you are giving the buyer delivery confirmation, no matter how it is mailed. 100 different people could list a 17-game lot tomorrow, with nothing but loose Game Gear titles and as sure as this is the Digital Press forum, at least 85-90 of them will be above $7 for their shipping price on that auction. Bottom line.

[raregamergirl]

I mail quite a few items, somewhere around 2000 a month between ebay and amazon. I don't hire children. My employees get paid very well (the lowest paid employee for ebay/ amazon related items I have makes $14 an hour) so that factors into it. I do buy bubble mailers in bulk, but I use higher quality bubble mailers as I rarely use boxes. I also generally use bubble wrap on top of the bubble mailers (again, for the fact that I like items to arrive safely and secure and boxes are a pain).

I do not use media mail shipping except in rare instances (IE, a DVD package of 5 heavy box sets). I ship first class or priority in the US. I sell approximately 40 percent DVD's (virtually all DVD box sets), two percent clothing and 58 percent games (generally PS2, XBOX, GC complete games). You always have to have delivery confirmation (paypal is such a pain) so that is 65 cents right there. Factor in all those things and I am actually losing money overall (mainly because of the

DVD box set aspect, which I still charge $5 shipping for. they cant go first class generally as they are over the weight limit so they have to go priority which is not cheap at all.) for games alone, $5 is enough for me with a few cents left over. Since I sell DVD box sets, though, it puts it over the edge.

Also, this does not even cover paypal or ebay fees for me, sadly. Ebay fees are practically as bad as amazon now between FVF and listing fees and upgrades. Only problem is that amazon screws you on shipping and games sell OK at best in mass quantities. DVD's sell quite well on amazon though.

Also, for anyone who has not seen it, here is a link I saw on CAG about the possible shipping hike on fees

http://www.lunewsviews.com/postalrates.htm

http://www.usps.com/ratecase/_pdf/FCM_Single-Piece_Presorted.pdf

HUGE hike for video games. has not passed and here is hoping it does NOT get approved.


BACK on topic. Its easy to make a few bucks on ebay. To run a business though? Truly a pain in the butt. As fo the user saying its not something to be proud of? Maybe they would not be proud of it but I know I personally am proud of what I do at a young age.

[6502]

@bangtango: I understand that casual sellers wouldn't necessarily go through the effort to seek out the cheapest way to ship things. I assumed the thread starter was interested in actually trying to make a living doing this (since he started a thread about it before IIRC). BTW, some of the responses seem to imply that I'm suggesting you have to scrounge around and spend lots of time looking for bargains. When I was researching this, I simply looked up a box supplier in Dallas (where I was living at the time). Every few months I would go by his place, buy several hundred boxes, a couple bags of shipping peanuts, etc. An hour or two of my time every couple of months to stock up on supplies wasn't a huge ordeal. Ditto for the shipping example. I shipped two or three times a week, and rarely went to the post office. No gas spent and no time lost waiting in lines.

Is this overkill for a casual seller? Certainly. But if you are serious about trying to make money in your own business, you have to think about all the ways you can trim your costs and save money.

@raregamergirl: When I said "kids" I was thinking of high school or college students, not children (my age is showing). I doubt I could manage to pay anyone at least $14 an hour to input eBay listings and package items. I'm surprised you have to pay that much to find people willing to do it. Then again, I live in a "college town", so there's an ample supply of students willing to work for far less than $14 an hour.

And I don't get the comparisons of an eBay entrepreneur to things like cooking meth either. What's so bad about being an eBay reseller? My hat is off to anyone that makes a decent living at it. I'm curious, for those jeering at people making a living through eBay, what exactly do you do?

[RJ]

I have a co-worker who repeatedly says that "games are for children" & first I told him not to talk about things he doesnt know anything about (games that is, he's got 4 kids, you'd think he'd know games), as it just makes you sound/appear stupid.

Then I gave him a few examples of the profits I've made selling games, like selling for 5x what I found it for...that shut him up real quick.

[koster]

FYI, if you print out your own shipping labels using USPS Shipping Assistant (http://www.usps.com/shippingassistant/), delivery confirmation can be added at the electronic rate (free for priority, and 14 cents for first-class/standard). The latest version of the program requires Windows 2000/XP/Vista, so I haven't tried any of its new features (requesting carrier pickup, printing custom forms, etc).

[Kitsune Sniper]

Also, for anyone who has not seen it, here is a link I saw on CAG about the possible shipping hike on fees

http://www.lunewsviews.com/postalrates.htm

http://www.usps.com/ratecase/_pdf/FCM_Single-Piece_Presorted.pdf

HUGE hike for video games. has not passed and here is hoping it does NOT get approved.

The first link gives me a 403 Forbidden error. The second? It may pass, but the fees wouldn't go into effect until 2009 - I remember the USPS saying they wouldn't raise the prices until well in the future.

[TheRedEye]

I remember my dad used to yell at me all the time over videogames and that they were a waste of time and would never be worth anything (around 1990). Now since I've showed my father how much profit I've made off of e-bay, he is very supportive (plus I'm 24yo and don't live with him anymore.) Anyone else have similar stories?

I'm glad you found a career you can be proud of, congratulations. How's the insurance plan?

[DreamTR]

6502: Like it was said in this thread, you are not taking into consideration the additional costs that go into shipping an item, if you have someone else do it, etc.

Also, I don't like to use Media Mail. I prefer the buyer to get their item quickly. As far as bubble mailers go, I don't exactly have room in my apartment to buy the boxes of 100 or so mailers for 0.40 or so apiece. I go to Staples when I have a good amount of stuff to sell because it's convenient. I am not going to go purchase a newspaper at the corner for 0.50 and use that as "packing material" on a lot of things instead of actually sturdy bubble protector (if I am using boxes).

eBay specifically states those fees should be calculated towards shipping and HANDLING charges. HANDLING HANDLING HANDLING. This includes time and materials. This is why I have such an issue with people complaining about $5 first class for DVDs. For loose games I charge $3 shipping, is that too much as well?

Also, I just noticed the mentioning of printing assistant and using PayPal for USPS and having the post office come to your door. Sure, that's all fine and dandy...HOWEVER...

I work full time. I would not trust leaving packages outside my door for the "postman" to pick up. Much rather have someone at the post office take it from me.

I ship INTERNATIONALLY quite a bit. Take that out of the equation, lots more packaging and postage and hassle, and no local pick up on those. Scratch that one.

Print out shipping slips on PayPal? Sure. Let me get my "postage scale" to weigh all the crazy boxes I sometimes send, as well as spend some more money on ink cartridges on my printer.

Free boxes with $4.55 delivery confirmation? I sell a lot more obscure things that DVDs and CDs that require much bigger boxes. I can't ship a boxed Virtual Boy in those, nor can I ship Street Fighter Arcade Sticks in them.

It's all relative, the point is, the costs add up, and as a fair seller, we all need to utilize eBay for the "handling" charges. I too "had" until recently, someone package all my stuff and pay them for doing this. Not an easy thing to keep track of...

[mailman187666]

I'm glad you found a career you can be proud of, congratulations. How's the insurance plan?

i think everybody missed my point. I actually design million dollar in ground pools for a living, with health and dental insurance plans. Not once did I say I sell games for a full time job. I'm saying I sell and collect games on the side AFTER MY REAL JOB. I didn't mean to get everybody all worked up. I'm just saying that my father used to tell me they were useless untill i sold a $40 Metal Gear Sold 3: Subsistence LE for $120 and since then he has supported that. I live on my own too. Everybody just got fired up about it. I was just trying to see if people's parents used to yell at them for having games but then shut up once profits started comming in. Not "oh my god, I made $200 on ebay and now I'm rich."

[TheRedEye]

i think everybody missed my point. I actually design million dollar in ground pools for a living, with health and dental insurance plans. Not once did I say I sell games for a full time job. I'm saying I sell and collect games on the side AFTER MY REAL JOB. I didn't mean to get everybody all worked up. I'm just saying that my father used to tell me they were useless untill i sold a $40 Metal Gear Sold 3: Subsistence LE for $120 and since then he has supported that. I live on my own too. Everybody just got fired up about it. I was just trying to see if people's parents used to yell at them for having games but then shut up once profits started comming in. Not "oh my god, I made $200 on ebay and now I'm rich."

Oh, all right, I apologize. I still don't understand why pulling a few bucks from ebay means you proved your parents wrong, but I'm glad you're happy.

[mailman187666]

Oh, all right, I apologize. I still don't understand why pulling a few bucks from ebay means you proved your parents wrong, but I'm glad you're happy.

nevermind, i aint posting in this thread anymore.

[FAN8228]

just forget it mailman. If you want a career to be proud of just go around and break into peoples homes, steal everything they have worked to acquire, and in some cases you might even want to have fun with the homeowners. That way you have a nice career, and something to really be proud of. LOL

[FAN8228]

Oh, all right, I apologize. I still don't understand why pulling a few bucks from ebay means you proved your parents wrong, but I'm glad you're happy.
because they were narrowminded like you and figured that video games were a waste of time and money. Years later he has showed his dad that he was wrong, and in fact all that money he spent on video games he has been able to make back and then some.

[nebrazca78]

My local post office will not let anyone ship items via Media Mail. I have enough problems when I ship stuff via Book Rate as it is! They won't let me even approach the counter unless I bring the package OPENED so they can inspect them.

I use USPS click 'n' ship and then just drop them off at the P.O. I've sent over 3000 games through Media Mail this way without a single problem (except one customer who also sells on eBay telling me it's against the rules). Any video games that are on CD or DVD ARE ACCEPTED under the Media Mail rate. The rule is that they must be computer readable media. There once was a computer that played Genesis carts so if you stretch it that works too (not). If I was forced to use First Class it's not that much more and I would then charge $3.50 for shipping instead of $3.



If people have such a problem with buyers using media mail to ship a game, then report the seller to Ebay. Last I checked, the post office did not include video games in the list of items that can be shipped via media mail. So I assume it isn't even permitted, though Gamestop uses it, so who knows? I don't list media mail in any of my video game auctions largely because I am worried about being reported and having Ebay breathing down my neck or taking down my listing. Furthermore, I don't ship any of my Ebay items media mail, unless I am selling cd's.

eBay doesn't care if you use Media Mail in your listings or not. There are no rules about this and the restrictions are handled by the USPS. You can't get a listing ended by eBay for having Media Mail as a shipping option.


Sooo.....selling a few games on ebay is "getting somewhere"?

Dad: "Junior, I never thought you'd amount to anything until you got $87 for Chrono Trigger on ebay."

Hilarious!!!
^

[mailman187666]

because they were narrowminded like you and figured that video games were a waste of time and money. Years later he has showed his dad that he was wrong, and in fact all that money he spent on video games he has been able to make back and then some.

you said exactly what I was trying to get at this whole time. Thank you FAN8228.

[bangtango]

FYI, if you print out your own shipping labels using USPS Shipping Assistant (http://www.usps.com/shippingassistant/), delivery confirmation can be added at the electronic rate (free for priority, and 14 cents for first-class/standard). The latest version of the program requires Windows 2000/XP/Vista, so I haven't tried any of its new features (requesting carrier pickup, printing custom forms, etc).

As DreamTR said, I'm not into the idea of burning through ink cartridges printing shipping labels on my computer. Mine come from Dell and they are too damn expensive when I can just write out the return/mailing address by hand (I do have decent handwriting). I've got a lot of other stuff to print on there besides USPS shipping labels. This doesn't even take into account the fact most ink cartridges have a painfully small amount of ink, given what it costs, or it seems that way.

As for shipping cartridge games by media mail, I have had my packages opened and inspected at least once. Not every postmaster is a swell guy who takes your word for it. Thankfully I've been within the USPS guidelines each time. I'm not going to be scolded in front of a large line at a busy post office just to save a buyer on Ebay all of $0.40 to $1.10 (give or take) by shipping NES carts using media mail.

Nobody will win this argument. Buyers don't like shipping costs they perceive as high. Sellers don't like buyers telling them where they should be spending their money, what to spend it on and how much they should spend on things. You just can't "force" people to print shipping labels online, buy packing supplies in bulk, weight stuff before listing it, dumpster dive for discarded newspaper & bubble wrap to "cut costs" or have the post office pick up all of their packages at home (not always a realistic proposition for everyone, like DreamTR said).

If a guy is selling on the DP Forums, how can he plan ahead with boxes? He might sell 6 games to one person, 4 to another and 1-3 games each to 4-5 others. A person has to sort it out once they know what games were sold to which person and where they are shipping. You don't know until that sale is over that you'll need half a dozen boxes, including one big enough to hold six games. Sure, you could have a dozen midsized priority mail boxes laying around but then your plans will change if you get a fellow who buys the entire lot. You can't tell them, "Uh, I can't sell that many because the boxes I saved up are too small to ship them all. Either I can sell you the games you want that will fit into one of my boxes or I'll put your order into 2-3 different boxes."

[zer0cool]

Can i have a job raregamergirl?

[coreycorey2000]

I'd like to hear how some Canadians save money on shipping. I use free boxes, print my own shipping labels and free packaging supplies. I still can't cut my costs down to what people in the US can. We don't get free priority mail boxes up here. I have to find free boxes from grocery stores etc. I have to deliver my parcels to the post office or a mail box. Large parcels must go to the post office.

[gum_drops]

$5 for one item? Thats VERY fair. That is what I charge right now and its honestly not enough. After paying employees packaging items, delivery confirmation, bubble mailers, extra bubble wrap, first class postage and other random materials (boxes if necessary, tape etc), I am not gaining a single cent. If anything, on average I LOSE money charging $5 for a single item.

First class postage you say?

Recent feedback from late january:
"damaged due to poor packing & shipped media mail, not 1st class as described"
"auction said USPS first class,shipped media mail.good ebayer other than that!"

I see you are still not leaving buyers positive feedback just retaliatory negatives, nice work, keep fighting the good fight!

I really like your style. I even started listing all my auctions as mint regardless of actual condition and i have to say the results have been nothing short of amazing. You were right it really draws people into the auction that normally would not click on it.

I sold a 'mint' copy of panzer dragoon saga with the manual guts missing for 180.00. I thought about you when I listed it and couldnt help but tear up a little and smile. It was one of those "priceless" moments.

If you ever stop selling on ebay you really should write an ebook. I would hate for all your knowlege on how to conduct an ebay business to not be preserved in some manor.

"The Art of Cold Blooded Reselling: How to Maximize Profits at Your Buyers Expense"

And you could charge a S&H fee on every ebook sold even though its only a downloadable file, how great would that be!

[Leo_A]

There's an interesting thread about raregamergirl in the AtariAge auction forum.

Don't suggest dealing with her unless you want to be ripped off.

[Nimrodil]

I never take a penny more than actual postage (package for free:-). I hate for myself to be ripped for P&P (not say that I hate people who take some dollars extra, that can be resonable).

Last week I bough 3 stickers. The seller took 15 Usd for "international postage". They came in a used letter and he had payed 0.80 USD for postage... Yes, my fault, I should have mailed and check before (actually I did, but he never answer my question if he could combine shipping...wonder why:-(

[mailman187666]

whenever I sell anything, I say the shipping charge is a dollar and use the buy-it-now option for the price I want. That way nobody says they get ripped on shipping, cuz its just a dollar, and I get the money I want for the game minus the couple of bucks it costs for the extra shipping. A couple of bucks isn't that big of a deal to me as long as I make the profit I want off the game.

[zer0cool]

First class postage you say?

Recent feedback from late january:
"damaged due to poor packing & shipped media mail, not 1st class as described"
"auction said USPS first class,shipped media mail.good ebayer other than that!"

I see you are still not leaving buyers positive feedback just retaliatory negatives, nice work, keep fighting the good fight!

I really like your style. I even started listing all my auctions as mint regardless of actual condition and i have to say the results have been nothing short of amazing. You were right it really draws people into the auction that normally would not click on it.

I sold a 'mint' copy of panzer dragoon saga with the manual guts missing for 180.00. I thought about you when I listed it and couldnt help but tear up a little and smile. It was one of those "priceless" moments.

If you ever stop selling on ebay you really should write an ebook. I would hate for all your knowlege on how to conduct an ebay business to not be preserved in some manor.

"The Art of Cold Blooded Reselling: How to Maximize Profits at Your Buyers Expense"

And you could charge a S&H fee on every ebook sold even though its only a downloadable file, how great would that be!



Reading this made me smile.

[RJ]

Aww, you beat me to it Leo!

[FAN8228]

There's an interesting thread about raregamergirl in the AtariAge auction forum.

Don't suggest dealing with her unless you want to be ripped off.

Interesting Indeed...



whenever I sell anything, I say the shipping charge is a dollar and use the buy-it-now option for the price I want. That way nobody says they get ripped on shipping, cuz its just a dollar, and I get the money I want for the game minus the couple of bucks it costs for the extra shipping. A couple of bucks isn't that big of a deal to me as long as I make the profit I want off the game.

You're the type of seller I would definitely buy off of. I mean, as long as the price of the game is reasonable, and it sounds to me which you do price them out at a reasonable range, the dollar shipping is a great way to entice potential buyers to use the buy it now option. You my friend are just plain brilliant!

[wrldstrman]

Well I was talking to my postmaster today and guess what postage is going up again in June..oh yeah

[DreamTR]

Fan8228 wrote:

You're the type of seller I would definitely buy off of. I mean, as long as the price of the game is reasonable, and it sounds to me which you do price them out at a reasonable range, the dollar shipping is a great way to entice potential buyers to use the buy it now option. You my friend are just plain brilliant!

What's the difference between starting a game at $14.99 with $1.00 shipping and selling it for $10.99 + $5.00 shipping?

How hard is it for people to just add the two items and not bid if they want? The big reasoning for the higher shipping and lower starting bid for most is because they want to save money on eBay Fees, not rip off anyone for S & H.

eBay makes buttloads of cash, and raises their fees semi annually it seems. Sellers can barely afford to sell their crap as it is. Sure, this is not an "excuse" persay, but who would you rather have the money in turn? The seller who will continue to supply good games to the community, or eBay so they end up swaying away even more sellers with their crazy fees?

[Leo_A]

How about neither, and charge fair prices? I don't ever have to pay nearly that much for shipping and handling from corporations, EB will even ship games free if you enter the right code. There's no reason I can see for paying $6 to ship a game, I know I'll never charge that much or pay that much.

[dethink]

Most normal people aren't "corporations" and don't get bulk rates on shipping, silly. Companies like EB ALWAYS profit on their normal shipping due to their large volume which nets them contracts with shipping companies. All large companies work this way. Shipping IS a profit center due to their discounted rates.

I usually charge $5 for single games...4.55 to ship Priority Mail, the box is free, jam it with newspaper or bubble wrap, have 0.45 to cover my trip to the post office, and we have one of those handy 24 hour Priority Mail machines, so I can just do it in the evening and not have to take time off work. People get their stuff quick and safely, everyone wins...

...and some people still complain.

"$5 is too much to ship it."

A) You're getting your stuff in 3-4 days tops.
B) I've NEVER had a problem with lost packages or damages with Priority Mail (important for folks concerned about crunched boxes/cases/manuals)
C) It's $4.55 to ship. People who complain about the Priority Mail price then always complement my speedy turnaround, so go figure.

[gum_drop]

Fan8228 wrote:

What's the difference between starting a game at $14.99 with $1.00 shipping and selling it for $10.99 + $5.00 shipping?

How hard is it for people to just add the two items and not bid if they want?


Exactly, if somone wants to charge $10 to ship a gameboy game i really dont mind as long as its clear exactly what the cost is. When searching you can scan the listings and see what the specified shipping is without clicking on the item.

Now thats assuming the the shipping is specified and clearly listed in the auction.

This a$$hole is a good example of what not to do and is obviously attempting to hide his handling charge. The shipping is listed somewhere on the page, thats my hint.

What not to do (http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Simpsons-Hit-Run-NINTENDO-GameCube-Game-Cube_W0QQitemZ140081625505QQihZ004QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[DreamTR]

How about neither, and charge fair prices? I don't ever have to pay nearly that much for shipping and handling from corporations, EB will even ship games free if you enter the right code. There's no reason I can see for paying $6 to ship a game, I know I'll never charge that much or pay that much.



Leo, that's only on "some" games, not all games, and like was said before, large corporations PROFIT from huge shipping volumes.

Yeah, let's charge higher prices and spend money on packaging and then get raped more on eBay fees. Great idea.

[8bitnintendogames]

I grew up on the Nintendo wave in the late 80's and early 90's, and kept just about every game, box, manual I bought. I thought it was weird that other friends would get a game and throw the box and stuff away. I never knew it would be worth anything today, and Ebay has been very good to me as well. It pays off being a gamer!

[xtremegamer]

I have to keep at least one or two auctions going at all times to keep my Wife off my case about all the games I have. As long as I am selling some of them at all times, I'm good! Plus now I have a locking booth at a local flea market, no more yelling at my house. LOL.

[Ruudos]

I also don't see the difference between $10,- for a game and $1,- for shipping, or $5,- for the game and $6,- for shipping. I just look at the total price for me, as a buyer.

As long as all additional costs are clearly specified in the auction description.

[Technosis]

If your parents are supportive, it's probably just because they're afraid that otherwise their 20-something year old son will move back into their basement.


Well I do know a guy in his 30's who started selling on eBay, and moved out to his own place (had to take a loan from his parents for the house down payment since the banks wouldn't approve him for anything). Anyhow he didn't have any experience with normal expenses like heating, electricity, etc, and you guessed it....had to move back to his parents basement when his eBay earnings didn't cut it (they were his sole source of income).


i think everybody missed my point. I actually design million dollar in ground pools for a living, with health and dental insurance plans. Not once did I say I sell games for a full time job. I'm saying I sell and collect games on the side AFTER MY REAL JOB.

I think you've got a good balance of things. Hopefully after your eBay selling and regular job you have time for yourself. I've known quite a few people who would eBay part-time, but they have found that it is way less lucrative then say consulting, real estate, or investing. But it certainly is a good option to have.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

I don't think $5 or $6 is too much to charge for shipping on a game, however it makes me stop to think and look around more and a slikely as not I'll end up skipping the game. On the other hand, when I see shipping for $1 or $2, I'm a lot happier and more likely to bid right away and bid a little more loosely, I imagine. That's just something for sellers who charge shipping & "handling" to think about.

It's not until the shipping get up into the $8, $9, $10 or more range that I get pissed and will not even consider bidding.

Same goes for combined shipping, if the seller won't do it or charges absolutely anything more than 99cents, there's no chance. Whereas if they do, I'll almost definitely buy two or three games from them if they have any selection.


...word is bondage...

[bangtango]

I also don't see the difference between $10,- for a game and $1,- for shipping, or $5,- for the game and $6,- for shipping. I just look at the total price for me, as a buyer.

Finally, the voice of REASON :)

[cyberfluxor]

I don't feel like debating about other people's practices, but for me my family prefers that I sell to make money. I tried it over a year ago to resell on eBay and ended up making around $45 for a month. Now, it was during a shortage period in addition I kept most of my finds, so the $45 ended up being spent on other games to keep instead of as profit into savings or something. I've thought about trying it out again but I still want to just kick back and collect as well.

[fishsandwich]

You obviously don't sell enough to know the true cost to ship things. First of all, a lot of the larger video game sellers have to pay employees to package those items. Have you ever packaged an item? It takes a good six minutes including printing off the address and getting the item in the mailer and writing the address. That translates to $1 you are paying someone to package that alone. Thats not even counting getting the item to the post office and waiting in the lines.
$5 for one item? Thats VERY fair. That is what I charge right now and its honestly not enough. After paying employees packaging items, delivery confirmation, bubble mailers, extra bubble wrap, first class postage and other random materials (boxes if necessary, tape etc), I am not gaining a single cent. If anything, on average I LOSE money charging $5 for a single item.

But you MAKE money using deceptive selling practices so it really all evens out in the end, no?

How many buying/selling accounts do you have, anyway?

[bangtango]

But you MAKE money using deceptive selling practices so it really all evens out in the end, no?

How many buying/selling accounts do you have, anyway?

I understand what you're saying but don't tell me it took you three whole months (since this was bumped) to come up with that reply to her ;) Just kidding with you, of course.

[Griking]

All some people want to do is sell a game. They don't want to shop around for the best possible prices for packing materials and shipping, particularly if it is someone who works a regular job and sells games on the side. It doesn't mean they are trying to rip someone off.

I don't see the point in spending 2-3 hours trying to figure out ways to cut, at most, $1.00-1.50 off of the shipping price if all you are doing is reselling a game you found in Goodwill or EB.

I agree with you to a certain point. If you're the type of person who only sells something once in a blue moon then I agree with you. However, if you're an eBay regular or have an eBay store then it's really just stupidity if you don't buy your bubble mailers in bulk or order FREE shipping supplies from USPS.com.

That being said, I don't think that most eBay store owners are stupid, I'm sure they DO order their supplies in bulk, they just don't pass their savings to their customers yet they keep pointing to supplies as the reason that they charge so much for shipping.

[RugalSizzler]

Selling your personal belongings is one of the lowest thing you can do in this world. It is like selling a part of yourself.

If you do sell make sure that there is no memories attached to them and you take no value in the object but get as much as you can out of it.

Personally I know I can sell all my games and make alot of cash but I have too many memories attached to them. So if I do sell I have to consider the possibilities.

I remember doing the dorky trade in your game bit at Funcoland where I got next to nothing for my games. I never should the games I sold and I have replaced them but they are not the game just a hollow shell of the same game.

[bangtango]

Selling your personal belongings is one of the lowest thing you can do in this world. It is like selling a part of yourself.

If you do sell make sure that there is no memories attached to them and you take no value in the object but get as much as you can out of it.

Personally I know I can sell all my games and make alot of cash but I have too many memories attached to them. So if I do sell I have to consider the possibilities.

I remember doing the dorky trade in your game bit at Funcoland where I got next to nothing for my games. I never should the games I sold and I have replaced them but they are not the game just a hollow shell of the same game.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

[Griking]

Selling your personal belongings is one of the lowest thing you can do in this world. It is like selling a part of yourself.

I suppose you suggest trading in games that you no longer play to Gamestop instead where's they'll give you pennies on the dollar?

So what do you do with stuff you no longer want, bury it in your back yard?

[Push Upstairs]

Buried treasure!


Has anyone determined if Rugal is a spoof account or what?

[bangtango]

Buried treasure!


Has anyone determined if Rugal is a spoof account or what?

As in a spammer or a second account created by a veteran member for fun? I've noticed that the people running the spoof accounts around here have the common courtesy to use commas.

Poor guy must have gotten hit in the head with one too many dodge balls during grammar school.