i am a fan of some of those systems...so i dont fully agree....sales wise maybe.
i am a fan of some of those systems...so i dont fully agree....sales wise maybe.
Someone please tell them that the Mattel Hyperscan existed and yes, it belongs on the list.
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I bet the dick who wrote this list hasn't even played most of these systems. Then again, we already knew that the second we read it. I'm no big-time collector but I own 5 out of 10 of the things on there. Even more, if you count BOTH the Sega CD and 32X as "separate" (that would give me 6 from the list). Of the 6 things I own from that list, only 1 of them actually belongs on there. Those are the FACTS.
Meh.
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First off im NOT mainstream and have been an avid videogame ADDICT for over 20 YEARS and I think Gametrailers.com is a decent site (just look at my sig ).
To be fair
YES many of the game systems are "mainstream" but who freaking cares? ALL OF THOSE CONSOLES SUCKED ASS!! and yeah I did kinda like the virtual boy but lets be honest here these systems did suck DO suck and always will suck NO MATTER how hardcore you claim to be.
Sure the 5200 had more than a few good games but I also remember how much the controllers sucked and how can u play a good game with bad controls? be it hardware related or otherwise? and who cares if the game system was released or not?
the Phantom deserves to be on the list as do all the others.
Sure there are probably at LEAST 5 NON-MAINSTREAM systems that should be on that list at least for all of us here at DP but damn give it a rest already.
Look at it this way= at least its not IGN.
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They COULD have given a good list and explain the more obscure items. The fact that they did not, or could not, shows more (actually less) to their perceptions of their visitors. There is also the possibility they just don't know, for example, the 32X CD error. I go there also and like the site quite a bit. Doesn't change the quality of the list. IMO it's half-hearted if not uninformed, thereby complete shite. Read: OPINION. Alrighty folks, move along.
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Ye gods....so, this list has known systems (plus a family of add-ons and the most aggregious non-Atari case of vaporware I've ever seen) over far more obscure (and, as a result, far worse) game systems, and everyone is pissed? I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to believe that anyone expected the Odyssey2 or the Arcadia to not suck when they were released (presuming, naturally, that anyone even cared). The systems GameTrailers selected have a body count. (Gunpei Yokoi=probably not dead if the Virtual Boy doesn't fail.) I like the Sega CD and have no ill will towards the 32X, but those add-ons ruined Sega as a console manufacturer. Likewise, the Atari 5200 severely damaged Atari's rep upon release, and was a major catalyst for the Crash, and for all the reasons that video stated. We can certainly argue about the list, but it's a bit silly to vehemently despise a list because it focuses on prominent commercial failures.
While I agree (and love the way you phrased) that the stuff listed has a body count. It's my contention that there are far worse consoles that actually existed vs the VB, 5200, SCD/32X and NGage. That's nearly half their list. The inclusion of Phantom outright blows my mind. I don't like it, if you do, cool beans.
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Do you think that lists like this are really meant for us. Collectors I mean. We dig into these systems and find the hidden gems, but does that make them good consoles? Overall it is a poorly done list, but I do not think we were the target audience.
I have to agree with the 5200 defenders.
The 5200 shouldn't be judged simply by it's shitty joysticks. There was always an option to buy 3rd party sticks. Wico made some bad-assed sticks when they were still around.
Some of the games actually made good use of those god-awful things. Robotron and Space Dungeon, being 2 I can think of, off the top of my head.
Its alittle wierd that Phantom is on the list, it wasnt even released. Sure, we knew alittle about it and could imagine how it would be, but still.. it could have been a huge success.
Agreed, but getting people riled up sparks conversation. It's likely we could develope a better list to pass on to them to help them from making the same mistake again, and perhaps lending to improving their site.
The list can't be mainstream, the Phantom and the Gizmondo were never really mainstream, most people have never heard of them. The R-Zone and Game.com dwelled in obscurity as well, with the VB being slightly better known because of the Nintendo logo and marketing campaign.
I think several systems can be argued off the list; the 3DO, N-Gage, Jaguar, Sega CD, and the 5200. The 5200's presence on the list at all is ridiculous. I think the VB may have to stay though...
If you put the Gizmondo on their don't you have to include the Zodiac?
Does this mean the 7800 is better than the 5200?
Did they forget those obscure systems? Fairchild? Odyssey 1/2? Aquarius? Arcadia? etc. or just leave them off the list?
If the Phantom is on there can we include the Super Nintendo DD or CD systems?
Tough list to reconcile...let's send them mail...
You know what's funny? Looking at that list, some of those systems are just plain bad, but for the ones that stand out as not belonging, like Virtual Boy and Sega CD, these systems have something that no other systems possess, besides those in similar positions. For all their bad rap and semi-obscurity, these systems have charm, something that the mainstream, thoroughly-loved systems are just too "normal" to possess. It's a very prominent, tangible feeling to me that will always make me appreciate their places in my collection. Sometimes you just gotta root for the underdog. As ridiculous as someone looks playing Virtual Boy (and I'm not even getting into the ring around your face the visor leaves), as freaked out as you get by the bizarre "Children under 7 can experience permanent vision damage" warning, as campy and cheesy as the Sega CD FMV games are, and as painful as the original price points were, you can't help but love these systems because they have character, at least as much as hunks of plastic and circuits can have. Their struggle to stay in the market and gain some popularity (and ultimate failure) just makes them that much more endearing, and when you actually sit down with some games and discover the true gems, I don't know about you guys, but I'm smitten.
so heres my take on it, you have to ask your self is that console worth it (not from a collectibility point of view) and if the answer is no it belongs on there.
Can i also ask a question of my own. Any of you tell me weither an n-gage is worth picking up?