idk the thing about the xbox is its well built so it will hold up better than the 360 long term. The hard drive is a big win over memory cards and easily replaceable also and cheap these days. Some great games and great memories for some of us I remember anticipating the hell out of it as a sort of follow up to my beloved dreamcast and have such great memories of its launch and playing halo and other games on live it was my first exposure to online gaming