Another reason I don't like bad tanslations: TIME.

[Aswald]

Fact is, almost every arcade game ever made is VERY short lived.

This means that if there's an arcade game you like, chances are it's not going to be around very long. Cosmic Alien, Space Firebird, Snap Jack, Astro Fighter, Tank Battallion, even games like Q*Bert...are very mortal in the arcades.

Even back in the 1980s, when arcades were more common and even stores might have several machines in the back in many places, in order for a new machine to be put in place, an existing one must be removed.

Thus, after a time, the only version you'll have is the home version. Not so bad if it's a good one, but a bad one? Then the game is only a memory.

This is one thing I really have against inferior home translations. Home versions are the only way a given game can be played after too short a time.

[MrSparkle]

well you do always have mame which states its primary goal is the preservation of the old arcade games and that being able to play them is more of a side effect of that.

[Aswald]

Maybe now the computers in these places will run it. But I wouldn't bet on it.
And it's not quite the same as a console version.




By the way, is he disrespectful to dirt?

[Kid Fenris]

Aswald would never use MAME, as it was created by Israeli space bankers to promote the neo-conservative lizard people's cover-up of the Montauk Project and the Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God.

Plus he can't run MAME on the computers at his local library, and he can't use a home computer because THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU.

[Aswald]

Aswald would never use MAME, as it was created by Israeli space bankers to promote the neo-conservative lizard people's cover-up of the Montauk Project and the Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God.

Plus he can't run MAME on the computers at his local library, and he can't use a home computer because THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU.

Fenris, it's obvious that you're just too damned stupid to understand just how bad things are getting (until you get drafted to fight in Iran, at least), but do you think you can maybe NOT display your awsome ignorance in this thread?

[Kid Fenris]

There you go again, Aswald, trying to put your head in the sand while the real problems are going on all around you. Did you know that 100 percent of Americans believe that Ronald Reagan was actually president when he was just a actor hired by the Bohemian Grove collective and Palestinian fringe alchemists? Why do you think the 1983 Beirut bombing happened? Terrorists? Hah! It was just a cover-up so the CIA could steal the UFO that crashed there 20,000 years ago.

And THEY'RE STILL DOING IT TODAY. You think the Iraq War is all about oil or fighting terrorists? They're just after the alien civilization that was destroyed and buried there by orbital lasers centuries before Egypt even existed. If you read the Bible (the REAL Bible, not the one the Vatican mangled centuries ago), you'd know this!

Also Q*bert never played right on consoles because of the diagonally-oriented joystick. That always bugged me.

However, I think that a lot of Defender ports improve on the arcade game by sticking to a conventional control system instead of that thrust-button gameplay.

[Brian Deuel]

Is that you, Riley Martin?

[Cryomancer]

You guys really need to make fun of Aswald in every thread he makes regardless of the original topic?

I would say he has a point here. Other than MAME, and even then there's layers of potential innaccuracies, it is pretty rare to get the true arcade experience with a port. They are often done shoddily/hastily (or with stolen emulator code!), and rarely gain any sort of benefit from the home conversion (no new features, etc). There are of course some that do (vertical/horizontal shooters are usually good ports with new content), but many don't. What are the options once the cabinet leaves the arcade? Find another arcade, buy a cab yourself, or try a port / MAME. Most of the time, MAME does it well, but you still have lots of missing ambiance / controller issues if you don't specifically solve those problems yourself. Hell, vector-based games in MAME will of course never be perfectly the same, for example.

This is a legitmate topic, maybe you should talk about it instead of shitting on the guy for stuff completely unrelated to the thread.

[Moo Cow]

Aswald has a valid point; outside of Pac-Man and Galaga, older arcade games have a very limited market. Hell, Robotron 2084 is my favorite arcade game, but it's rarely in arcades and unplayable in mame without joysticks.

And, on a side note, I thought Fenris was joking, but after looking through Aswald's posts, Cyromancer has a bit of a point.
Shows how ignorant I am.

[MrSparkle]

By the way, is he disrespectful to dirt?

Aka ni taishite burei da! Yoguri ni yoberu!
Honki da yo!
Kore! Minna doke! Burabura shiteru tokoro ja nai!

[Gentlegamer]

Aswald has a valid point; outside of Pac-Man and Galaga, older arcade games have a very limited market. Hell, Robotron 2084 is my favorite arcade game, but it's rarely in arcades and unplayable in mame without joysticks.

Robotron 2084 plays great on the Xbox Midway Arcade Treasures compilation.

[Moo Cow]

Robotron 2084 plays great on the Xbox Midway Arcade Treasures compilation.

Damn it, I only have the second one for the Gamecube..
I should definitely pick up the first compilation for the PS2.