What is the best game of the PS2 (128-bit) Era??

[erik]

Just checking to see what game you think is the best to come out of the 'sixth generation' machines starting with the Dreamcast in Sept. 9, 1999 and ending with the Xbox/Gamecube in 2006-2007?

I personally feel that Metroid Prime is the best followed by:

Soul Calibur
Resident Evil 4
God of War
Tony Hawk 3
Ninja Gaiden Black
Halo
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Gran Turismo 4
Metal Gear Solid 3

Okay, so that's actually 10 games, but Metroid prime is tops because it has a completely sublime atmosphere and is a perfect reimaging of Super Metroid in 3-D. It simply cannot be topped!

What are your choices???

[kedawa]

ProTip: don't group consoles by bits.

The XBOX and GC are both 32bit machines.

[erik]

ProTip: don't group consoles by bits.

The XBOX and GC are both 32bit machines.

I don't think so!! The PSone and Saturn are 32-bits and the Nintendo 64 is obviously 64-bits. Everything form the DC up to the Xbox is 128-bit. I understand that it is not customary to call it the '128-bit' era, but that's what it is. Any questions???

[boatofcar]

Katamari Damacy

[outsider]

I'd have to go with Shadow of the Colossus.

[Misto]

I really like both Pikmin games, they were quite unique and very fun to play. I also really liked Gladius and Odama.

Resident Evil 4 is also up there, I played it so much, I pratically have it memorized and unlocked the Handcannon on the really tough minigame.

[tomaitheous]

I don't think so!! The PSone and Saturn are 32-bits and the Nintendo 64 is obviously 64-bits. Everything form the DC up to the Xbox is 128-bit. I understand that it is not customary to call it the '128-bit' era, but that's what it is. Any questions???

What the..? Are you a fool? So what happened to the 64bit era? Is the N64 all by itself in that era?? Haha..ha..ehem. <_<


On topic:

Damn. That's a hard list to make. There where tons great titles from that generation. Definitely Metroid and some others on you list. Tales of Symphonia is probably my favorite game from that era. And I know I'll get some flack for this, but Super Mario Sunshine was the most fun I had in a Mario game since Super Mario World on SNES and SMB3 on NES. (SMB64 was average at best)

[Iron Draggon]

What the..? Are you a fool? So what happened to the 64bit era? Is the N64 all by itself in that era?? Haha..ha..ehem. <_<


On topic:

Damn. That's a hard list to make. There where tons great titles from that generation. Definitely Metroid and some others on you list. Tales of Symphonia is probably my favorite game from that era. And I know I'll get some flack for this, but Super Mario Sunshine was the most fun I had in a Mario game since Super Mario World on SNES and SMB3 on NES. (SMB64 was average at best)

I guess you never heard of the Atari Jaguar... it's part of "the 64BIT era", though many would argue whether it's truly 64BIT, just as some are arguing about some of the systems of "the 128BIT era" not truly being 128BIT

myself, I look at it like this, and I could care less what the actual numbers are:

2600 & Intellivision = 2BIT
5200 & Colecovision = 4BIT
7800, SMS, & NES = 8BIT
Genesis, Sega CD, & SNES = 16BIT
32X, Saturn, PS1, & 3DO = 32BIT
N64, Jaguar, & Jaguar CD = 64BIT
Dreamcast, PS2, XBOX, Gamecube, & Wii = 128BIT
XBOX 360 & PS3 = 256BIT

so we still have one more generation to go before we finally reach the GBIT era... the next generation will be the 512BIT era, but if Nintendo goes with an underpowered system again, their next console prolly won't be 512BIT

I think it's pointless to argue over actual BITS... just accept them as a generalization to help people understand the incremental increases in power brought by each new generation... it always doubles, until you get to the Wii, which chose to stay behind in the previous generation for some reason... few people really care what the actual BITS are, they just want a way to distinguish each generation from all the other generations... so get over it

now as for the best games of the 128BIT era, I still can't say for sure yet, because new 128BIT games are still coming out... remember, the PS2 still isn't dead yet, and it will survive as long as the Wii does... so we still have many more years of new 128BIT games left to enjoy before we'll know all the best for sure... great idea for a topic, but even now it's still too soon to tell!

[cityside75]

32X, Saturn, PS1, & 3DO = 32BIT
N64, Jaguar, & Jaguar CD = 64BIT

I think it's pointless to argue over actual BITS... just accept them as a generalization to help people understand the incremental increases in power brought by each new generation...

I understand your logic to an extent, but calling the Jaguar an incremental increase over the PS1 & Saturn is flawed to say the least.

Also, I notice that a couple of people have mentioned PN 03 as one of their top games. I've never even given this game a second look, and this is the first I recall hearing of it being a top tier game. Can someone tell me a little more about why it's on a best-of list?

[kedawa]

I guess you never heard of the Atari Jaguar... it's part of "the 64BIT era", though many would argue whether it's truly 64BIT, just as some are arguing about some of the systems of "the 128BIT era" not truly being 128BIT

myself, I look at it like this, and I could care less what the actual numbers are:

2600 & Intellivision = 2BIT
5200 & Colecovision = 4BIT
7800, SMS, & NES = 8BIT
Genesis, Sega CD, & SNES = 16BIT
32X, Saturn, PS1, & 3DO = 32BIT
N64, Jaguar, & Jaguar CD = 64BIT
Dreamcast, PS2, XBOX, Gamecube, & Wii = 128BIT
XBOX 360 & PS3 = 256BIT

so we still have one more generation to go before we finally reach the GBIT era... the next generation will be the 512BIT era, but if Nintendo goes with an underpowered system again, their next console prolly won't be 512BIT

I think it's pointless to argue over actual BITS... just accept them as a generalization to help people understand the incremental increases in power brought by each new generation... it always doubles, until you get to the Wii, which chose to stay behind in the previous generation for some reason... few people really care what the actual BITS are, they just want a way to distinguish each generation from all the other generations... so get over it

now as for the best games of the 128BIT era, I still can't say for sure yet, because new 128BIT games are still coming out... remember, the PS2 still isn't dead yet, and it will survive as long as the Wii does... so we still have many more years of new 128BIT games left to enjoy before we'll know all the best for sure... great idea for a topic, but even now it's still too soon to tell!

This is all drivel.
Why do you want to cling to a system of categorization that, by your own admission, is baseless and inaccurate, and which is no longer used by any reasonable person?

[ProgrammingAce]

I don't think so!! The PSone and Saturn are 32-bits and the Nintendo 64 is obviously 64-bits. Everything form the DC up to the Xbox is 128-bit. I understand that it is not customary to call it the '128-bit' era, but that's what it is. Any questions???

The PS1 is 32 bits, the saturn is a freaking nightmare. Anywhere from 8 bits to 32 depending on the chip in question. The main CPU was a pair of 16 bit ICUs, whatever that's worth.

The N64 has a 32 bit CPU with a 64 bit GPU. Everything else has pretty much been 32 bit CPUs with various buses and GPU configuration. The xbox was basically a home computer in a weird box (hell, it even ran the Win2k kernel). As for the CELL, you can really annoy Sony engineers by calling it an 8 bit chip.

Gamewise, i'd have to say my favorite was Rez. Fear is the mind killer.

[izarate]

If we go by bits, be haven't left the 32bit generation yet. Some consoles had CPUs with >64bit registers and >64bit instruction sets but that's as far as it goes.

CPUs are categorized by their integer size and no console has used a 64bit CPU (64bit integers).



Oh, yeah, Metroid Prime and PN03.

[j_factor]

The N64 actually did have a 64-bit processor. It had 32-bit registers, but was otherwise 64-bit. The Saturn has no single main CPU, it has dual main CPUs, which are fully 32-bit processors.

Sega did use the term "128-bit" to describe the Dreamcast, I guess to emphasize that it was a generation above N64. DC does have a 128-bit GPU, but the CPU is 32-bit. PS2 has a 64-bit CPU and a 64-bit GPU. Gamecube has a 32-bit CPU and a 64-bit GPU; Xbox has a 32-bit CPU and a 128-bit GPU. I don't believe anyone other than Sega ever called their console 128-bit. Sony might have early on, I don't remember.

Anyway, a better term would simply be "last-gen". Wikipedia calls it the sixth generation, but I feel that it's actually the seventh.

[SpaceHarrier]

I'm not sure what criteria to use to choose the 'best'. Should I use my favorite games? Should I use the popular opinions, or best graphics? hmm

Sonic Adventure
Final Fantasy X
Grand Theft Auto 3
Shadow of the Collusus
Panzer Dragoon Orta

I just pulled those randomly out of my mindbrain