Why not a genesis and game genie?
Why not a genesis and game genie?
The Gen X has some minor audio issues, but a more solid on-screen display (none of the odd "rolling" between screens like the FC3)
The Gen X controllers are MUCH more like the Genesis 6-button controllers.
The FC3 appears to have better audio, no noticeable sound drop out, but a strange "rolling" on screen in areas where the game doesn't display any on-screen data. VERY hard to explain, but reminiscent of the way old analog cable tuners/boxes would distort for a millisecond when changing channels.
I don't think one necessarily outweighs the other in terms of "quality" and both have the region switch.
I think it's really up to you from there.
"And the book says: 'We may be through with the past, but the past ain't through with us.'"
Just got one of these for my girlfriend as she wanted a SNES and a NES but also wanted to play her Genesis games!
My little review:
Genesis - Controls are great, color is a little bright, sound is good.
NES - Buttons are backwards of course, color is very bright, sound is a little off.
SNES - Looks and sounds great but has the button problem.
Is there a fix for the backwards buttons? A pin relocation mod I could do?
the backwards button problem on the nes and snes just kills this for me.
Yes there is in this thread. But it only works for NES games Snes will still have the problem.
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126778
Sal (kjmann)
Atlantis Games Group - President/Soundtrack Design/Project Director
www.atlantisgamesgroup.com
Lame. NES I can deal with... SNES is the problem. Run and jump in SMW is difficult haha
Hm. My system shows a glitched screen when Faceball 2000 (SNES) or Super Mario Kart (SNES) are being played.
I can't test it, though, to see if other games work, as those are the only ones I have.
Well, finally got one of these suckers....In my personal opinion it isn't the best clone ever....A nice concept (SNES,GEN,NES), but not well applied that is....
The internal design is a bit weird, each individual composite video is piled in top of each other,making the video to look very strong and color saturated....My SNES Super Mario RPG revision game didn't work, There is no Sega Virtua Racing or SMS compatibility..(this clone has a totally new different Sega GOAC ASIC than the usual TECTOY-580G found in GEN-X or even their own YOBO brand GEN/NES clone).....There are no real controller switching IC's but instead another clone switching board (under the Sega side)....Everything else is a some what cheap: plastic,board design, controllers and most of the other electronic components as well (except for the Sony CXA1645 encoder found on the SNES side)....Aside from the already mentioned controller mapping issue...
So, after splitting each of the systems sides video outputs apart, they all now look much better and as they should....Probably a good thing to do, since this mess was causing a hell of interference when testing the Genesis side, making my tv go out of sync and crazy at the beginning....
Yobo could have used a switching chip such as a FT4066 (have one laying around) for the individual video outputs, but obviously they didn't...So I didn't bother to do the same either and instead added a few more A/V jacks and s-video for the SNES side..
In the end, this clone is great for clone enthusiasts.
A hidden message and a few words for Lei (the person who seems to be responsible for the design of many of these clone systems boards): "C'mon man, You can do much better than this"...
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The controllers do worry me too...very cheap design....
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I fail to see the attraction of these units, particular after reading ooxxxoo's comments. I mean, it'd be a different story if they added component or HDMI video out, but they don't. I assume that everyone that comes to this forum likely already has an NES, SNES and Genesis. This doesn't seem to work as well as any of those units, so what's the point?
Does anyone know if there's a multi-system clone in the works that has component or HDMI output?
The Yobo I have is a NEO Fami. It plays JAP games right out of the box. It has an adapter to play NES games.
This is it right here:
Read all about it:
http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/neofami.htm
EDIT:
And just for the record, I just tested Castlevania III. I 'm happy to report that it plays fine and dandy.
Condoleezza Rice is nice, but I prefer A Roni!
I am determined to mod this system to something much more acceptable.
Ideal:
ooXxXoo's mod for the video outputs
AND
Seperate controller ports for each system, or an adapter from the FC3 port to all of the other systems.
At the very least, SNES controllers that I could use for SNES and NES games like in the FC Twin.
ooXxXoo, could you post or send me some sort of close up to where you soldered your points? I'd like to know how to do this mod myself.
Has anyone had any luck with adapting other controllers? I've hacked the end of a genesis controller off, and luckily it has all nine wires.
The FC3 controller uses this wire pattern:
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Three of the wires are not used.
I used my ohm meter to find these, if they are incorrect please let me know.
The same wires on the Sega controller are:
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| o ■ ■ ■ o |
(I did not check the pins that the FC3 does not use, but the sega controller has wires for all nine pins.)
Now, all I need to know is which wires on the snes, nes and sega controller would need to go to the same pins on the FC3.
Any ideas how I might find this out?
I also took apart my FC Twin controller, which looks identical to an SNES controller on the outside (apart from color), but has one more wire. Oddly, the six wires it has are all the exact same color as those on the FC3 controller. My guess is that Yobo just uses the same kind of wire. Sadly, when I connected the wires from the FC Twin controller to the pins on the FC3 in the color pattern of the FC3 controller, it did not work. SO, all I have proven is that even though the wires are the same color for the FC Twin and the FC3, they do not equate to the same function. That would have been too easy, I know. (Because of course, if the FC Twin controller would have worked, then I could have made an adapter for a standard SNES controller)
There is one thing I want to know about the FC3, can it or can it not play Mario RPG for the SNES? Some sites says it can, other that it can't, others say that only some version will, I want the TRUTH (please?) From personal experience, not that "oh my second cousin said that..." rubbish I want cold hard facts for that game (among others) is the reason why I want this system and I would really appreciate it.
Last edited by Labrynian Rebel; 02-11-2009 at 05:26 PM. Reason: spelling error
That downfounded Ilia will NEVER steal my horse again! NEVER!!!
I also don't understand why someone would buy this piece of junk.