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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire View Post
    Omg your vectorman! I thought you were just a fictional icon for sega that appeared in two games! but I dident know you were accualy alive!! Its so cool that the accual vectorman has a vectorman prototype, vectorman can I have your autograph? I
    So, are you going to actually buy any prototypes or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeaglePuss View Post
    So, are you going to actually buy any prototypes or what?
    as a matter of fact programmingace is making a list of the ones he has so I can purchase some of them

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    That sounds good, I wish you luck in your search.
    Last edited by Vectorman0; 05-19-2009 at 11:13 PM.


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    Hope that works out for you, and thanks for passing on that Vectorman 2 proto. If you ever get serious about proto collecting and spending serious cash on unreleased games instead of just gauging interest, you can always send me a PM.

    To Vectorman: Payment sent, thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmark0673 View Post
    Hope that works out for you, and thanks for passing on that Vectorman 2 proto. If you ever get serious about proto collecting and spending serious cash on unreleased games instead of just gauging interest, you can always send me a PM.

    To Vectorman: Payment sent, thanks again!
    Think what you want of me, Im not old enough to get a real job so what do you expect, before I buy anything Im going to find the best deals. Why complain to me? And why shouldent I browse before I buy? Am I supposed to send somebody money and hope I get a proto?. Im not going to bug people to dump prototypes, its their property not mine, all Im trying to do is buy a couple of them.

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    you can have this one for $1250.oo

    Shadowhawk for SNES comes with a letter from an Image Comics employee


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buyatari View Post
    you can have this one for $1250.oo

    Shadowhawk for SNES comes with a letter from an Image Comics employee

    I wanted that game sooo bad as a kid, shadowhawk was my favorite comic. But $1200? lol. Let me know if you'd dump for a reasonable rate. I have no interest in owning it. In the meantime, could we get some screengrabs or footage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACHUKA View Post
    I wanted that game sooo bad as a kid, shadowhawk was my favorite comic. But $1200? lol. Let me know if you'd dump for a reasonable rate. I have no interest in owning it. In the meantime, could we get some screengrabs or footage?
    Some screen shots from U64 (link):
    http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/s...es-unreleased/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeaglePuss View Post
    yeah, i got those. thanks though!

    http://www.x-cult.org/newegg/games/3...4/Screenshots/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACHUKA View Post
    I wanted that game sooo bad as a kid, shadowhawk was my favorite comic. But $1200? lol. Let me know if you'd dump for a reasonable rate. I have no interest in owning it. In the meantime, could we get some screengrabs or footage?
    I'd rather just sell the thing and let whoever buys it dump it or not. I posted some screen shots years ago. Let me see if I can find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buyatari View Post
    I'd rather just sell the thing and let whoever buys it dump it or not. I posted some screen shots years ago. Let me see if I can find them.
    You can see them here:
    http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/s...es-unreleased/

    $1250.00USD isn't too bad since it has the letter... might take you up on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewCallis View Post
    You can see them here:
    http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/s...es-unreleased/

    $1250.00USD isn't too bad since it has the letter... might take you up on that.
    I had a buyer once with part trade and part cash but after we made a deal he backed out and tried to deal for a lower price.

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    Hey ProgrammingAce, send me a list of the protos you are selling, I'm interested.

    Just curious about what you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewCallis View Post
    You can see them here:
    http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/s...es-unreleased/

    $1250.00USD isn't too bad since it has the letter... might take you up on that.
    No, those aren't the shots Adam took. If I remember right he had a hard time killing a rat or something and just took a couple camera shots of the very beginning of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedEye View Post
    No, those aren't the shots Adam took. If I remember right he had a hard time killing a rat or something and just took a couple camera shots of the very beginning of the game.
    Woah, stroke of genius! Shoot me a dump of it and I'll hack up some game genie codes for it, and email them! =D

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    I don't get the mentality of buying up some rare, unreleased game and then making it your sole goal to ensure the ROM isn't dumped. You can bitch about "ruining the value" but that's complete shit and everyone knows it. Emulation hasn't done a damn thing to curb the value of much anything. Not that most of these people ever plan to sell them anyway. You can claim you want to hold onto them but eventually those old EPROM chips will lose their data and you'll have a cartridge with nothing on it.

    Seems if I was going to buy some prototype of an unreleased game and make sure it's never dumped, I'd put vids on Youtube of the carts being destroyed. If you're going to be a dick about ROM dumping then go all out.

    I'd love to find some proto of an unreleased game. Say... Lobo for SNES. I'd track down a ROM dumper and send it to them so fast the anti-ROM collectors would put a contract out on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diosoth View Post
    I don't get the mentality of buying up some rare, unreleased game and then making it your sole goal to ensure the ROM isn't dumped. You can bitch about "ruining the value" but that's complete shit and everyone knows it. Emulation hasn't done a damn thing to curb the value of much anything. Not that most of these people ever plan to sell them anyway. You can claim you want to hold onto them but eventually those old EPROM chips will lose their data and you'll have a cartridge with nothing on it.

    Seems if I was going to buy some prototype of an unreleased game and make sure it's never dumped, I'd put vids on Youtube of the carts being destroyed. If you're going to be a dick about ROM dumping then go all out.

    I'd love to find some proto of an unreleased game. Say... Lobo for SNES. I'd track down a ROM dumper and send it to them so fast the anti-ROM collectors would put a contract out on me.
    I've dumped every prototype I own, released or otherwise. I just don't give out the ROM because it will completely devalue the prototype/my investment. I'm in the process of reproducing one of my unreleased prototypes, and it will be available in the next two weeks (Link: http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/mes...threadid=19042). This way I get to release the game to the public, and protect my investment. It's win-win. The ROM is preserved, I get to keep a one of a kind prototype, and I don't have to give handouts to people like you who are not willing to take the risk of the initial investment. I plan to do this with all of my prototypes, it just takes some time (and lots of money). I have two more releases that I plan putting out within the year.

    Unreleased prototypes do lose value due to emulation. There are countless examples of this happening in the past (Hit the Ice, Crossfire, Squashed, Bashi Bazooka, ect.). Once the game is dumped the proto goes from being worth thousands, to being worth hundreds. It's easy for you to piss and moan when you don't have any prototypes. If you're interested in buying a proto, thus putting your money where your mouth is, send me a PM and I can make it happen. I would assume your hostility is a result of jealousy, but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewCallis View Post
    You can see them here:
    http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/14/s...es-unreleased/

    $1250.00USD isn't too bad since it has the letter... might take you up on that.
    I used to be a staff member at unseen 64, well I still am But I never find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buyatari View Post
    you can have this one for $1250.oo

    Shadowhawk for SNES comes with a letter from an Image Comics employee

    How much would I have to pay for you to leak some screenshots/video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diosoth View Post
    I don't get the mentality of buying up some rare, unreleased game and then making it your sole goal to ensure the ROM isn't dumped. You can bitch about "ruining the value" but that's complete shit and everyone knows it. Emulation hasn't done a damn thing to curb the value of much anything. Not that most of these people ever plan to sell them anyway. You can claim you want to hold onto them but eventually those old EPROM chips will lose their data and you'll have a cartridge with nothing on it.

    Seems if I was going to buy some prototype of an unreleased game and make sure it's never dumped, I'd put vids on Youtube of the carts being destroyed. If you're going to be a dick about ROM dumping then go all out.

    I'd love to find some proto of an unreleased game. Say... Lobo for SNES. I'd track down a ROM dumper and send it to them so fast the anti-ROM collectors would put a contract out on me.
    You know what bud. Think whatever you want. I really don't care. A sealed SNES copy of EVO just sold for 2000. My asking price has not gone up in all this time. All the other rare Nintendo items I have had have gone up in value and I consider this a collectors item. I am a collector and given the choice between this a sealed copy of EVO I'd rather have this.

    While we are on the subject of crap. What I think is crap is all the people who think the game just HAS to be released so the masses can play and enjoy it. I bring this same game to the CCAG game show in Cleveland every year and let everyone know I have it there for play. NO ONE has ever wanted to play it. Next show is Saturday this coming Saturday as in tomorrow. I'll try it again. I bring several undumped unreleased games every year and no one ever cares.

    After someone does dump it (and I am sure it will happen if you are patient) it will get a write up somewhere on the forums with some posts and some attention. People will play it once or twice and then forget about it. It looks great as an unwrapped christmas present but after you open it and find another pair of socks no one cares.

    It will be dumped. Someone will release it. It just won't be me. Thinking ahead I had the original owner write this letter for me so it would still retain some collectable value after it was dumped. It will still be one of a kind and might even be worth 400-600 in that condition. Not a bad drop in price when you consider that the sealed EVO would be worth what 100-200 if you opened it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire View Post
    How much would I have to pay for you to leak some screenshots/video?
    Free just come to the CCAG show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buyatari View Post
    Free just come to the CCAG show.
    I might be able to show up, just give me some more info about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire View Post
    I might be able to show up, just give me some more info about it
    it is tomorrow.

    www.ccagshow.com

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    Alright, i got a lot of requests to see some of this stuff. Wasn't as much in the $20 as i thought, but there are a few titles. You guys missed out when i sold about 50 betas last year for $3 each...

    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show....php?p=1560804

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    Diosoth: You are pretty freaking naive to say the least. Anyone who collects protos KNOWS the value goes down on unreleased games when they are dumped. No one is talking about emulation with released games.

    You don't collect protos. Some of us do. Stick to things you know instead of assumptions. I am sick of people trying to make false statements about things.

    And not to brag about it, but I do have a Lobo unreleased proto, albeit for Genesis. I have no idea if there is one on the web, but I know mine is not released.

    Also, people like you have a habit of saying "horders" don't dump things. They ARE dumped, just not released for free.

    How anyone can complain about something for $1200 that is one of a kind, but pay thousands more for shrinkwrap is beyond me. It's just another classic example of someone who has no idea wtf he is talking about.

    Most of us will release stuff if we get some money back that we paid, but I'm not paying $1000 for something and dumping it for free. That's stupid. If you think it's not, then give me your car. I need it more than you. Give me your possessions. I'm not paying for someone else's entertainment.

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