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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan_G View Post
    ..., and considering that there were several great SNES publications from the era from that region.
    And Nintendo tried to stop those too, Sega were far more for 'as many magazines as possible'.

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    as for me:
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    Choice: Teradrive

    Reasoning: Nintendo never had something as cool as this.

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    Two Reasons:

    1. The best version of Final Fight was on Sega CD
    2. Mortal Kombat had blood

    That's all that mattered to me back in those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetaWolf47 View Post
    Reasoning: Well, I will confess bias here. I've owned my SNES five times longer than my Genesis. However, in fairness, the genres and qualities I like in gaming are more prevalent on SNES than Genesis. Dealing with platformers, adventure games, and others, Genesis has some great ones, but they don't compare with the likes of Mario, Metroid, and the other SNES exclusives.
    What adventure games are on SNES? All I can recall for either system, excluding Sega CD, is that Scooby Doo game and one or two Star Trek games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    as for me:
    Username: main man
    Age: 21
    Choice: Teradrive

    Reasoning: Nintendo never had something as cool as this.
    QFT. I wish it would be possible to upgrade this thing to modern standards. Not like I'll ever find one in Brazil, anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by betamax001 View Post
    Reason: To me it pretty much comes down to Mario and Sonic, and I would choose Mario over Sonic.
    I know it's only a matter of personal taste. I know it. But I'll never understand that. And I say this after playing the hell of SMB 1, 2 and 3 on my famiclone prior to getting my Mega Drive.
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    Now I may seem biased on this (since I write for a Sega website but...

    Username: Baloo
    Choice: Sega Genesis
    Reasoning: See Below


    For these 10 reasons (not in any particular order).

    1. Sonic the Hedgehog. And we got 6 great installments of it on the Sega Genesis. And Super Mario World wasn't as good as SMB 3 on SNES.

    2. Final Fight was so much better on Sega CD than it was on Super Nintendo.

    3. The Super Nintendo could barely do voice at all while the Genesis had games like Sports Talk Baseball loaded with speech.

    4. More Arcade ports made it to the Genesis than Super Nintendo.

    5. Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.

    6. Mortal Kombat had blood on the Genesis.

    7. The Sega CD brought us RPGs better than most of the RPGs on the Super Nintendo (Snatcher, Lunar 1 and 2)

    8. Streets of Rage 2 is the best beat-em-up between the two systems.

    9. Fighting games were played much on the Sega Genesis with its 6-button controller.

    10. The Super Nintendo didn't have Blast Processing™.
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    I feel as though the SNES had a little of everything in terms of genres you may have wanted. While the Genesis had better shooters and better handled sports and fighting games, the SNES had phenomenal platformers, RPGs, and action games. As those were what I predominantly played (and still play), I have to go SNES. I also think that -- in general -- the graphics and sound were better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thom_m View Post
    I know it's only a matter of personal taste. I know it. But I'll never understand that. And I say this after playing the hell of SMB 1, 2 and 3 on my famiclone prior to getting my Mega Drive.
    Like you said it's more personal taste, but Sonic goes by too fast for me to really enjoy compared to Mario. Plus I've think Sonic's flaws are alot more noticable to me than Mario's.

    For example: Sonic can't breath underwater which is fine except when theres a water level and no hope to get out of the water...>.< Also enemies can sometimes appear out of nowhere and and you can't avoid them because you are going so fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by betamax001 View Post
    For example: Sonic can't breath underwater which is fine except when theres a water level and no hope to get out of the water...>.< Also enemies can sometimes appear out of nowhere and and you can't avoid them because you are going so fast.
    Indeed, nothing is more true than the quote "To each it's own"! The fact that Mario can breathe underwater has ALWAYS bothered me! I think the whole "you're running out of breath" scenario actually adds excitement to the game. I'd always get thrilled when I managed to get out of the water just moments after the countdown finished. The same is true for beautifully avoiding a sudden enemy while going really fast.

    I guess that, for games that are aways compared to each other, they're actually quite different.
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    I honestly always feel quite surprised when I hear anyone say they prefer the Genesis over the SNES. In any way I look at it, the SNES had way more and better games than the Genesis ever did, the graphics and sound were usually superior, and even the joypad felt better (the first time I held an original Genesis controller, I honestly thought it was a cheap 3rd party one!)

    More importantly though, the Genesis never had anything like:
    Mario World+Mario All Stars
    Super freakin' Metroid (this game alone should end any arguments here)
    Zelda: Link to the Past
    Chrono Trigger
    Mario RPG
    Secret of Mana
    Final Fantasy II+III (or IV and VI)
    Yoshi's Island
    Mario Kart
    Actraiser
    Demons Crest
    Megaman X
    Tetris Attack
    Jim Power
    Contra III
    Castlevania IV
    Super Ghouls and Ghosts
    Prince of Persia
    Super Turrican I+II

    (yes I know that the last few games were sort of multi-platform, but I felt I should include them since the SNES versions seemed better than their Genesis counterparts)

    Then again, I do consider the SNES to be the best console of all time, so a thread like this always wakes up the fanboy in me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Magus View Post

    More importantly though, the Genesis never had anything like:

    Mario World+Mario All Stars -

    Super freakin' Metroid (this game alone should end any arguments here)
    Zelda: Link to the Past
    Chrono Trigger
    Mario RPG
    Secret of Mana
    Final Fantasy II+III (or IV and VI)
    Yoshi's Island
    Mario Kart
    Actraiser
    Demons Crest
    Megaman X
    Tetris Attack
    Jim Power
    Contra III
    Castlevania IV
    Super Ghouls and Ghosts
    Prince of Persia
    Super Turrican I+II

    (yes I know that the last few games were sort of multi-platform, but I felt I should include them since the SNES versions seemed better than their Genesis counterparts)

    Then again, I do consider the SNES to be the best console of all time, so a thread like this always wakes up the fanboy in me
    What is with that list? The last few, We got those games on Genesis. We got Mega Man Wily Wars, we got Castlevania Bloodlines, we got Ghouls and Ghosts, we got Contra Hard Corps. And you want to talk RPGs?:

    Shining Force I
    Shining Force II
    Shining Force CD
    Phantasy Star II
    Phantasy Star III
    Phantasy Star IV
    Snatcher
    Vay
    Lunar I
    Lunar II
    Shining in the Darkness
    Ys III


    And to counter Mario:

    Sonic 1
    Sonic 2
    Sonic 3
    Sonic and Knuckles
    Sonic CD
    Knuckles Chaotix

    Beats 4 re-hashes, 1 level hack and 1 new game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    What is with that list? The last few, We got those games on Genesis. We got Mega Man Wily Wars, we got Castlevania Bloodlines, we got Ghouls and Ghosts, we got Contra Hard Corps. And you want to talk RPGs?:

    Shining Force I
    Shining Force II
    Shining Force CD
    Phantasy Star II
    Phantasy Star III
    Phantasy Star IV
    Snatcher
    Vay
    Lunar I
    Lunar II
    Shining in the Darkness
    Ys III


    And to counter Mario:

    Sonic 1
    Sonic 2
    Sonic 3
    Sonic and Knuckles
    Sonic CD
    Knuckles Chaotix

    Beats 4 re-hashes, 1 level hack and 1 new game.
    For everything listed on both sides I can come up with another game I liked to counter it.

    compilations of past exclusive games:
    Super Mario All-Stars Sonic Classics 3-in-1

    exclusive platformers of actual company owned characters:
    Super Mario World / Sonic the Hedgehog
    Yoshi's Island / Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Donkey Kong Country / Sonic the Hedgehog 3
    Donkey Kong Country 2 / Sonic & Knuckles
    Donkey Kong Country 3 / Sonic CD
    Kirby Super Star / Sonic 3D Blast
    Kirby's Dream Land 3 / Knuckles Chaotix

    draw

    The Nintendo franchise character platformers seem to break even with Sonic here if you count the add-ons.

    well-known platform shooters:
    Super Metroid / Vectorman
    Mega Man X / Vectorman 2
    Mega Man X 2 / Mega Man: The Wily Wars
    Mega Man X 3 / Gunstar Heroes

    draw

    puzzles:
    Wario's Woods / Columns
    Tetris & Dr. Mario / Super Columns
    Kirby's Avalanche / Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
    Tetris Attack / Columns III

    another draw...

    RPGs:
    Final Fantasy 4 / Phantasy Star 2
    Final Fantasy 6 / Phantasy Star 3
    Chrono Trigger / Phantasy Star 4
    Secret of Mana / Shining Force
    Secret of Evermore / Shining Force 2
    Illusion of Gaea / Shining Force CD
    Zelda 3 / Shining in the Darkness
    Wizardry 5 / Vay
    Earthbound / Lunar
    Final Fantasy Mystic Quest / Lunar 2
    Ys 3 / Ys 3

    Then Star Fox has G-Loc to contend with.

    So nope it's hard to say one beats the other. These two systems both have to be top of the line quality in order to be able to compete so much.

    To tell the truth it's very much the same with NES vs. SMS. for both systems I can only find roughly the same amount of exclusive games I like for each. The rest are all too hard to even attempt to beat due to either sadistic or careless game designers. That still hasn't changed over the generations, just less exclusives available on systems and a larger percentage of 3rd party multiplatform games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thom_m View Post
    I guess that, for games that are aways compared to each other, they're actually quite different.
    I guess they are quite different
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickstilwell1 View Post
    For everything listed on both sides I can come up with another game I liked to counter it.

    compilations of past exclusive games:
    Super Mario All-Stars Sonic Classics 3-in-1

    exclusive platformers of actual company owned characters:
    Super Mario World / Sonic the Hedgehog
    Yoshi's Island / Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Donkey Kong Country / Sonic the Hedgehog 3
    Donkey Kong Country 2 / Sonic & Knuckles
    Donkey Kong Country 3 / Sonic CD
    Kirby Super Star / Sonic 3D Blast
    Kirby's Dream Land 3 / Knuckles Chaotix

    draw

    The Nintendo franchise character platformers seem to break even with Sonic here if you count the add-ons.

    well-known platform shooters:
    Super Metroid / Vectorman
    Mega Man X / Vectorman 2
    Mega Man X 2 / Mega Man: The Wily Wars
    Mega Man X 3 / Gunstar Heroes

    draw

    puzzles:
    Wario's Woods / Columns
    Tetris & Dr. Mario / Super Columns
    Kirby's Avalanche / Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
    Tetris Attack / Columns III

    another draw...

    RPGs:
    Final Fantasy 4 / Phantasy Star 2
    Final Fantasy 6 / Phantasy Star 3
    Chrono Trigger / Phantasy Star 4
    Secret of Mana / Shining Force
    Secret of Evermore / Shining Force 2
    Illusion of Gaea / Shining Force CD
    Zelda 3 / Shining in the Darkness
    Wizardry 5 / Vay
    Earthbound / Lunar
    Final Fantasy Mystic Quest / Lunar 2
    Ys 3 / Ys 3

    Then Star Fox has G-Loc to contend with.

    So nope it's hard to say one beats the other. These two systems both have to be top of the line quality in order to be able to compete so much.

    To tell the truth it's very much the same with NES vs. SMS. for both systems I can only find roughly the same amount of exclusive games I like for each. The rest are all too hard to even attempt to beat due to either sadistic or careless game designers. That still hasn't changed over the generations, just less exclusives available on systems and a larger percentage of 3rd party multiplatform games.
    That's a great comparison right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    And you want to talk RPGs?:

    Shining Force I
    Shining Force II
    Shining Force CD
    Phantasy Star II
    Phantasy Star III
    Phantasy Star IV
    Snatcher
    Vay
    Lunar I
    Lunar II
    Shining in the Darkness
    Ys III
    It's really rather silly to try to compare the Genesis's RPG library to the SNES's, and this is from someone who adores the Shining Force games. A few gems aside, RPG support on the Genesis can't hold a candle to the support the SNES got (and if we were to throw in Super Famicom and Mega Drive, it would be even more of a joke).

    And Snatcher isn't remotely an RPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    It's really rather silly to try to compare the Genesis's RPG library to the SNES's, and this is from someone who adores the Shining Force games. A few gems aside, RPG support on the Genesis can't hold a candle to the support the SNES got (and if we were to throw in Super Famicom and Mega Drive, it would be even more of a joke).

    And Snatcher isn't remotely an RPG.
    If Snatcher isn't an RPG, then Sonic isn't a platformer.

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    If you don't want to take my word for it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatcher
    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=5360
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/segacd/data/563492.html

    You can call Snatcher an adventure, point & click, digital comic, anything along those lines, but RPG definitely doesn't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    If Snatcher isn't an RPG, then Sonic isn't a platformer.
    Snatcher is an visual novel with some action sequences, a type of adventure game. I don't know how you'd consider it an RPG.

    I like the Genesis more than the SNES, but both are very good systems. I really like Rocket Knight Adventures. Plus there's Taz-Mania, Golden Axe II, and Kid Chameleon for starters. There's tons more out there that I like, it would take me awhile to list out everything.
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    Well, I've always considered point-and-click games like Snatcher and Phoenix Wright as a part of the RPG genre. After all, RPGs stand for Role-Playing-Game. You play a role in a detailed story.

    Not all RPGs have to have a battle system and mythological creatures and whatnot IMO.

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    Maybe it's just me, but I think it's unfair to talk about quality 32X and Sega CD games (see: Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic CD, Snatcher) in a Genesis/SNES comparison. I mean, in the specific question, it's Genesis games, not Genesis plus Add-Ons.
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