Lol, dragon Age an RPG, that's funny, just like how companies try passing off Diablo clones as if they were RPGs, sorry but the are not. Most aer Action/Adventure, and there maybe 1-2 that are atleast action/RPGs(not pure RPG). I played that tales game ages ago(it wasn't POS perse, but it sure doesn't live up to the praise people give it), and if I recall wasn't pure 3D either DQ 8 was pretty bad(not as bad as other games made that gen, but bad neverless, and horribly worse then any other DQ game ever made.
FF 12 was not only a complete POS, but it wasn't an RPG either, at best it was an action/RPG(and even that is a bit of a stretch in termonology).
Just wow, with people that think such games are good, no wonder the industry is in such bad shape, I'm sure you think DQM:Joker was a good game as well. If your standards are so low that you think those are good, I pitty you, because the odds are you never played a actual good game before.