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    but then it looks ghetto!

    and dust gets in there.

    maybe remove it and put a cloth over it, preferably like, a mario handkerchief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkhan View Post
    but then it looks ghetto!

    and dust gets in there.

    maybe remove it and put a cloth over it, preferably like, a mario handkerchief.
    I'm definitely not removing the door. I'm just going to have to live with it, and anyway, like I said, I don't need to change out carts too often unless I'm testing the carts. I think it's probably more of a problem for me b/c of what's on top: a Japanese Saturn. So just pushing it back doesn't work because of the position of the controller (right over the NES door).

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    Why doesn't that toploader have av outputs like the toaster model? I was thinking about getting a toploader eventually, but forgot about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiusclimber View Post
    To give people a reason to learn how to solder.
    I thought it was to give people a reason to go on message boards to ask people if they could recommend a specific person or website to have their NES2s modded.

    ...anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChristoph View Post
    I thought it was to give people a reason to go on message boards to ask people if they could recommend a specific person or website to have their NES2s modded.

    ...anyone?
    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135258

    This guy did a professional AV and LED mod on my NES2, completely eliminating the white vertical lines in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDomesticInstitution View Post
    While it's a cool bit of history, it's probably not a practical alternative to the OP. Of course time and money are no object to some on here, and if that's the case well... go for it. I would assume that these are nearly impossible to find.
    I'll still keep an eye out for one, or any top loader. All I have is a regular NES system, that seems to suit my needs for the moment as I don't have games from other regions. I've been lucky in the past with some finds so I hope I'll be lucky again. I won't bother with a clone system, at least not to use as my main unit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lazyhoboguy View Post
    Why doesn't that toploader have av outputs like the toaster model? I was thinking about getting a toploader eventually, but forgot about this.
    They did away with the outputs to cut costs, the redesign was meant to be a cheaper version that came out near the end of the system's life. Back then most people hooked up their systems with standard RF, the 13" TV that's still being used in my living room was bought new in 1997 and doesn't even have AV inputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    They did away with the outputs to cut costs, the redesign was meant to be a cheaper version that came out near the end of the system's life.
    Incidentally enough, the Famicom version of the NES2 was only composite out. (compared to the original Famicom which was RF only).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    the 13" TV that's still being used in my living room was bought new in 1997 and doesn't even have AV inputs.
    Most of the TVs I see at the thrift are much bigger than 13" but aren't guaranteed to have RF. I'd say a significant number of them are RF-only (possibly more than the number I've seen that have S-Video or better, although to be fair better models probably get taken quick - though it seems that few TVs stick around long).

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    I recommend the front loader console. Don't buy a new pin connector, just get in there with a safety pin and tighten the pins up a bit. Works better than new. The top loader just has ugly video output. I don't mind using RF too bad, but the vertical lines running down the screen just make it eh to me.

    If you really want a top loader, I'm looking to get rid of mine after fixing up my old front loader. PM me if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    Most of the TVs I see at the thrift are much bigger than 13" but aren't guaranteed to have RF.
    CRT's without a coaxial jack? Most any tv since the birth of cable will have one. Even the vast majority of HDTV's do too.

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    I would say I have not encountered a single CRT, Plasma or LCD television that doesn't have an RF input, and pretty much anything made in the last 20 years will definitely have a coaxial 75ohm socket.

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    I'd spend the extra money and go with an A/V Famicom. Not only do you get A/V straight out of the box without having to mod, but you avoid the whole frustrating "vertical lines" issue of the top-loading NES. You also get all the advantages of a Famicom, such as easy FDS compatibility, the ability to use games that have sound chips in them, and the 15-pin expansion port (useful for 3rd party controllers). And since it has NES-style controller ports, you can use any controller you want on it (except for 9-pin pirate ones). And to top it all off, A/V Famicoms were manufactured until 2003, so it's not too hard to get a brand new one. The one I use was manufactured in '03 according to the copyright dates in the manual. It's in damned fine condition and will be for quite a while .
    The only drawback is that to use NES games, you need a converter. It's not as bad as it sounds though, and I'm using one of the cheap uncased bare ones!

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    Did a quick mod on mine to get RCA out.

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    Get the NES2 the Nintendo one..

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    Thanks for all the input.

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    I'd have to recommend the original front-loader NES. Its case is more sturdy, and it obviously protects the games, which means the most to me. As many precautions as I take to take care of my beloved game collection, accidents still happen.

    I understand there's cables to connect old systems to the new-tvs, but I don't know if any are official. I've had a third-party brand cable from GameStop, and it didn't work at all. I thought it was my 64, but it was just the brand new cable. Go GS.

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