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    Got any details on the Master System? Is it an actual console with adjustable games or is it one of those 20-in-1 systems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aswald View Post
    Have upgrades ever really worked?
    Err, the Xbox 360 Arcade hard drive upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by migo View Post
    Err, the Xbox 360 Arcade hard drive upgrade?
    Two words: red ring.

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    That's completely unrelated to the hard drive upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migo View Post
    Got any details on the Master System? Is it an actual console with adjustable games or is it one of those 20-in-1 systems?
    Its Brazilian longevity is quite well-established and widely known; it even got perfectly legitimate ports of games that came out much later. Wikipedia should tell you more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aswald View Post
    Have upgrades ever really worked?
    Does the Super Game Boy count? Or the N64 expansion pack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    Does the Super Game Boy count? Or the N64 expansion pack?
    The PCE CD is an upgrade, right?

    that worked pretty good!
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    The Emerson Arcadia 2001 also crashed pretty hard because the Atari 5200 and Coleco Vision were way better at the time. The Emerson looked totally last-gen when compared to those two systems, like it thought it was Intellivision or something. I'm probably one of the few on this site who actually has an Arcadia 2001. I never see anyone else post about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickstilwell1 View Post
    The Emerson Arcadia 2001 also crashed pretty hard because the Atari 5200 and Coleco Vision were way better at the time. The Emerson looked totally last-gen when compared to those two systems, like it thought it was Intellivision or something. I'm probably one of the few on this site who actually has an Arcadia 2001. I never see anyone else post about it.
    The Emerson Arcadia 2001 also had big plans to have nothing but rip-offs of established games make up the bulk of their library. However, after the K.C. Munchkin lawsuit, Emerson knew that Atari would be gunning for them if they released any of their clones on the market.

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    There's something I've never quite understood about the whole virtual boy fiasco. Virtual Boy came out in August of 95 and was discontinued in less than a year. The N64 came out in 96 so both consoles must have at one point been in development simultaneously. Snes was doing fine and all the magazines were touting the N64 as the next big Nintendo console. Where was Virtual Boy supposed to fit in? Was it ever meant to be Nintendo's future?

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    "According to David Sheff's book Game Over, Yokoi never actually intended for the console to be released in its present form. However, Nintendo pushed the Virtual Boy to market so that it could focus development resources on the Nintendo 64.[2]"

    From Wikipedia.

    That still seems odd though, as it would make more sense for them to shelve it entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migo View Post
    Err, the Xbox 360 Arcade hard drive upgrade?
    Console revision /= to add ons like Sega CD/32X
    Because it makes no attempt to be great, it is therefore extremely great.
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    It's not a revision. The hard drive is an add on, even snaps on to the outside of the case and adds additional functionality (such as backwards compatibility) not supported by the base model. Internally the Arcade is identical to the Pro and Elite Models. It's rather like the Sega Base System and Sega Master System.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migo View Post
    It's not a revision. The hard drive is an add on, even snaps on to the outside of the case and adds additional functionality (such as backwards compatibility) not supported by the base model. Internally the Arcade is identical to the Pro and Elite Models. It's rather like the Sega Base System and Sega Master System.
    You do know that ALL 360 systems can have their hard drives removed correct? I'll take it off my Pro and my Pro then is an Arcade. The reason arcades are 'cheaper' is because they come w/ no hard drive. It's not an upgrade, its a big memory card.

    Early Arcade units had nothing internally to save anything, requiring a memory card or the Hard drive to be attached to save game progress or DLC. The new Arcades have 512 MB of internal flash space, to support the NXE and allow for some game saves.
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    Yes, I know all that. It's common knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aswald View Post
    Have upgrades ever really worked?
    The N64 Expansion Pak. Based on the sales of Donkey Kong 64, Perfect Dark, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Turok 2, and Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, I'd estimate maybe a third of all N64 owners had one.
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    I suppose not only the PC Engine CD itself, but also the "Super System" upgrade would be an example of a success. I would bet that the majority of PCE CD owners got the ability to play Super CD games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_factor View Post
    I suppose not only the PC Engine CD itself, but also the "Super System" upgrade would be an example of a success. I would bet that the majority of PCE CD owners got the ability to play Super CD games.
    yeah. i think its the most successful addon of all time probably.

    that n64 pack was a crock of shit.

    they should have just included that from the get-go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkhan View Post
    that n64 pack was a crock of shit.

    they should have just included that from the get-go.
    Regardless of your opinion, the Expansion Pak was a successful add-on.

    And according to your philosophy, the Multitap should've been included with - or built into - the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 from the get go, which I agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkhan View Post
    yeah. i think its the most successful addon of all time probably.

    that n64 pack was a crock of shit.

    they should have just included that from the get-go.
    How is it a crock? Because they didn't release it with the system they shouldn't have released it at all? Its just like with the dual shock controller, yeah it would have better to have gotten it when the sytem was released, but its better than not having it at all.
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