Question on "as is" auctions

[teh_L0ki]

If a seller says an item is tested to play but is also sold as is, what happens if it shows up broken. Do you as a buyer have any grounds to contest it or are you just screwed?

[pseudonym]

For a lot of sellers "as is" usually means that something is wrong with it, or it's damaged in some way without saying so outright, so you can expect a problem if you buy it.

I'm not sure if it has any real standing in a Paypal dispute though. I don't use it personally because it will make people stay away from your auctions.

[teh_L0ki]

For a lot of sellers "as is" usually means that something is wrong with it, or it's damaged in some way without saying so outright, so you can expect a problem if you buy it.

I'm not sure if it has any real standing in a Paypal dispute though. I don't use it personally because it will make people stay away from your auctions.

I don't say it in my auctions, I'm just curious about a couple auctions I saw that said tested, working, as is no refunds. Basically I was wondering if I could paypal dispute and win if it was broken when I got it.

[Mayhem]

Yes. Buyers are allowed to return anything if they choose. Sellers stating "no returns" in their listings are just trying to scare people, eBay prohibits all "no returns" policies...

[theclaw]

Hm. Isn't there a policy difference between ebay us and ebay uk in that regard? I wouldn't know, as I of course list on the us site.

[Ryaan1234]

Yes. Buyers are allowed to return anything if they choose. Sellers stating "no returns" in their listings are just trying to scare people, eBay prohibits all "no returns" policies...

This has always confused me. eBay allows sellers (such as myself) to check "returns NOT accepted" in the returns policy on a listing page, but then they allow buyers to return an item really in any instance. If a buyer gets something and is just unhappy with the item (they paid too much for it or have buyer's remorse) there's nothing to stop them from filing a SNAD case and forcing a return.

As for "as-is" items it usually means a seller can not fully test the item, and they only guarantee the item working to the amount as described. For instance if they say a copy of Zelda: LttP plays but otherwise is "as-is" it may have a dead save battery or some other problem that the seller was not able to initially figure out. I would stay away from as-is video game listings because there may be a problem with the game that the seller is aware of but does not want to admit.

For the record I myself sell things in "as-is" condition but only when I cannot find any way to test the aforementioned item, or when it has obvious flaws. There are some instances when people don't mind buying something broken or with issues but when I do sell items of that nature I try to make it *really* obvious that it is broken (not some "oh it works but is "as-is" as well lulz" kind of thing at the very end of the auction).

[Kitsune Sniper]

I sell certain things "As-is" when I'm not selling a complete item.

I recently sold a copy of Loom on 5.25" floppies as is. I sold it not because of the floppies, but because of the contents, which were in excellent shape, and said "the floppies are a bonus item."

I had no complaints on that one.

[Mayhem]

This has always confused me. eBay allows sellers (such as myself) to check "returns NOT accepted" in the returns policy on a listing page, but then they allow buyers to return an item really in any instance. If a buyer gets something and is just unhappy with the item (they paid too much for it or have buyer's remorse) there's nothing to stop them from filing a SNAD case and forcing a return.

I haven't sold anything in an age, just going by what I've been told. So there is still a tick box for no returns, yet general eBay policy allows almost any sort of return? That's screwed up then