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    Default Why are there no unlicensed games today?

    Why are there no unlicensed PS3,360,Wii games that run on hardware without modifications?

    Is it too hard to do?
    Is it illegal?

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    I would imagine that its too expensive to make something that would entice people to buy while still being economically competitive. Unlicensed games seemed to fall around the time that the 3D revolution hit the industry.

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    There's always xbox indie games...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buyatari View Post
    Why are there no unlicensed PS3,360,Wii games that run on hardware without modifications?

    Is it too hard to do?
    Is it illegal?
    The DMCA essentially removes all rights to do such a thing any more from companies. It hasn't been tested yet in court, but pretty much that act was written so the more money you have, the more right you are. No one wants to test that.

    The reverse engineering to get to the point you could release an unlicensed game is not so difficult (see: DS Piracy) to make it so that it wouldn't work. The DMCA does. It's a *really* crappy act.
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    Because of portable gaming apps. You can make an app for Droid / iPhones and go from there. No hardware costs, so your only real investment is time.
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    All three consoles have reasonable in-roads for independent developers to sell small-dev-team/small-budget titles on their online stores respectively.

    I would have to guess that that discourages the effort involved in producing unlicensed physical product that would run on the consoles.

    That and the fact that unlicensed software could be locked out with a console firmware update.
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    Which systems had unlicensed games for it?
    That I know of-

    MSX
    Mark I/II/III/Master System
    Famicom/NES
    Mega Drive/Genesis
    SNES/SFC
    GB
    GBC
    GBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzz_n64 View Post
    Which systems had unlicensed games for it?
    That I know of-

    MSX
    Mark I/II/III/Master System
    Famicom/NES
    Mega Drive/Genesis
    SNES/SFC
    GB
    GBC
    GBA
    Well, licensing didn't really start until the days of the NES, so pretty much any 3rd party game for a console before then could be considered unlicensed.

    Notably, Activision was founded by former Atari programmers expressly for the purposes of putting out games for the 2600 without Atari's approval because they were pissed at Atari's policy of not crediting them for the games they worked on.

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    I'd argue that the homebrew applications and software that are released and playable on modded consoles/handhelds would count as unlicensed.

    Though granted I have very little experience with it as I don't own a modded box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop2 View Post
    I'd argue that the homebrew applications and software that are released and playable on modded consoles/handhelds would count as unlicensed.

    Though granted I have very little experience with it as I don't own a modded box.
    Sure that could count as unlicensed but that isn't what I am asking.

    As was already stated Activision came out against Atari and none of it was licensed. With the NES there were several small companies who did this but Atari under the Tengen name released mostly unlicensed titles.

    So why doesn't EA or Infogrames or Activision or even an up and commer release unlicensed games is it all the DMCA? I guess I don't understand how that works then. I was under the assumption that the DMCA had more to do with tampering with the hardware.

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    Because nobody wants to take on Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo's legal teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griking View Post
    Because nobody wants to take on Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo's legal teams.
    I think it's more likely that there is no money to be made from taking them on.

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    Ummm, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't unlicensed games cause the big crash in 83? That might have something to do with it me thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mynamesukx View Post
    Ummm, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't unlicensed games cause the big crash in 83? That might have something to do with it me thinks.
    Partially, but it was more like a glut of shitty games caused the crash. Atari couldn't do anything about unauthorized 3rd parties then, so that's kinda moot.
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