Curious about how DP feels about restoration projects on classic games

[Gameguy]

To make everyone happy, you can do repro labels with small "reproduction Label" print so you don't get pointed like you are trying to scam and bootleg. Thanks to the big amount of ebay/paypal scams, usually people get defensive when making transaction, so in order to avoid any problem, you should add that small print. Your label will still look nice and would not be considered by many as an attempt to bootleg. Another recommendation, you should NEVER take off the original label, no matter how bad it is, you should use a donor cart of a crappy game you do not like to "reconstruct" your game.

I've sold a couple of times SNES games with a repro label (which had the "reproduction label" print on the design) and I included both the original beat up shell, and the new reproduced one; the shell was somewhat different than the original SNES shells, and it still sold for a very good price.

If he was willing to do this I wouldn't have a problem with it. He said numerous times that he wants to have a new label made that's 100% identical to the original, and this is for Ninja Gaiden Trilogy which is one of the most valuable games on the system. Maybe you should read his posts more closely before just agreeing with them.

I'll just post a couple of his posts below.

The idea to me is that it's not the job of a select group of people to smear and attack someone seeking repairs and/or help. That's why that saying 'buyer beware' is out there a you need to think for yourself, not just attack anyone attempting to work on their own stuff they rightfully own as if their property is socialist community property. I know the fear is real, but telling people what to do with their own goods I find far more offensive.

What I meant basically keeping it simple. I own a game that has a label with some holes and rubbed white parts on the label, otherwise stunning shape, it's Ninja Gaiden Trilogy. What I'd like to do is ask for, and then do the work to have a like for like copy of the label done. I tried a few times over at NA to do this and the very protective types there attacked and tried to discourage me. Eventually I got in contact with a couple over PM who didn't want to get blown out and I got a lead on a label. I found it, it's a true copy down to even the right DPI (same with Lufia II of sheer luck on the same location which I also need.) Then when I've and others tried to get help on the suggestions for printing, again attacks and dissuasion aganist it (even offers for free custom made labels so I wouldn't) because it makes the game supposedly 'not real' anymore or original even though what counts (the board) is 100% solid, shell too, just a shit label. People making good copies to defraud sucks, but it's going to happen regardless just look at ebay or the need for some to use VGA.

On topic or not that's some solid information and I think I'll look into it. Buyatari is right it was a public question and they happen fairly often there. There's now a rule on the site that you can't help people with it including in private messages as they'll check and possibly ban you for it. I had this guy writing me about it and told them I was also signed up here if he wanted more help since I didn't want to get an admin checking my mail. I had another dude congrats me for standing up to the people who go after those wanting to do that stuff freedom of speech and all that. I'm totally with you I get so angry about it because it's like there's this asinine mentality that video games are an entirely unique collection mystique and that people shouldn't have to do their own due diligence or question asking. Instead basically video games need to be like some socialist thing where everyone has the same access to the same stuff and you make due with what you have and that you only do what people say you can do with your property and nothing else, it's like video games are community property which is crap. I tried making the car argument more times than I can remember and I get called stupid and that they're nothing at all alike, same with books and comics. But the truth is they are. When you buy a used car with a new paint job on it, do you have to take a red paint job and white ink on every painted panel saying 'reproduction' on it? Fuck no. If you sell you give receipts, papers, and the rest and tell them that, but clearly not everyone is honest, but that's the buyers problem for being stupid. It's not the job of a small minority of people online to be the video game police.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his posts. If so I would appologize, but I'm pretty sure I'm right about how I'm interpreting them.

To me it comes across just like I said, he's complaining about anyone who disagrees with him about making 100% perfect label replacements. Anyone who disagrees is attacking his right to personal freedom with his property, that either you agree with his view or you're an asinine socialist who thinks video games are community property. It would be the buyers fault for not noticing that a 100% identical looking label is actually a reproduction label.

I just don't like seeing people get ripped off with fake labels, I want my games to be completely authentic. I have a MUSHA with a ripped label but I'm not going to change the label, I'd rather keep it authentic. With people accepting 100% real looking labels being made you know people will start selling games with them as though they were real labels, or just using the labels on pure repro carts as most buyers don't open their games to check the boards. If all that matters is the board being real, why do copies with ripped labels sell for less money? Cosmetic condition of the games matter, and selling replacement labels as real ones isn't something I would approve of.

This thread asked how people felt on the subject so I spoke honestly, it wasn't just a thread asking for help on getting them made, it asked about opinions. Of course anyone who explained their views including the valid concerns about fraud gets called a socialist or a part of the video game police. I previously posted "fascist" instead of "socialist" but with the way he talks about it I'm pretty sure he meant fascist instead, yet he complained that I somehow pulled it out of nowhere. It really seems to me that he created this thread to complain about people disagreeing with him, rather than honestly wanting to know other peoples' opinions on the subject.

I'm not even on Nintendo Age, usually I disagree with them on most things relating to the hobby. Grading games or valuing screw varients differently isn't something I agree with, with 100% identical looking labels it's almost the one thing I do agree with them. I'm not just agreeing with them because I'm supposedly registered there.