who here uses a toaster, who uses a top loader

[BlastProcessing402]

Toaster for life. Never had a problem getting a game to run that wasn't fixable by blowing on it.

And frankly, I think the toploaders look weird with those giantass NES carts sticking out the top. Not to mention most of them don't have A/V. I ain't playin with RF, sucka.

[Atarileaf]

I own both but have been using the toaster lately as it works really well and see no need to switch to the top loader unless I'm playing a pirate multi-cart. I know, you can snip the chip but I never bothered. If you have a well maintained and serviced toaster then you should be all set. A top loader is nice to have and realistically I use it as a back-up to my toasters more than anything else. As mentioned, you still need clean games and a clean cart port no matter what system you use but generally speaking top loaders don't require constant finagling to work. Again though, my toasters work pretty good so its not a huge issue for me.

[wiggyx]

Toaster for life. Never had a problem getting a game to run that wasn't fixable by blowing on it.

And frankly, I think the toploaders look weird with those giantass NES carts sticking out the top. Not to mention most of them don't have A/V. I ain't playin with RF, sucka.

Did he just say what I think he said?

[granz]

I'm using a Famiclone currently. ("Retro Entertainment System") It definitely has its issues, but it gets the job done. The only thing I find intolerable is all the bleeps and blips present when playing Dragon Warrior. None of my other games seem to exhibit any sound inaccuracies.

I've have nothing but bad luck trying to find official hardware still in working condition. The last front loader I bought almost caught on fire just a few moments after turning it on! (the AC adapter was apparently on its last leg) I haven't considered a top loader, but only because I don't want to be stuck with RF video output. I read it's possible to add composite video support through some hardware modifications, but I've never soldered anything in my life.

[Gameguy]

I don't have a top loader so I just stick with toasters. I keep them clean as well as my games, most start up just fine the first time. No replacement connectors.

By the way, there are legit top loaders with video out instead of RF but they're extremely rare. If I have to dream about having a specific system, that's the one I'd want.

[MeTmKnice]

I use a toaster, have had multiple over the years. Current one on the shelft works 99% of the time. Always with the game genie. I do not own a top loader. Would like to have one eventually, hopefully AV modded. However, I do dislike the Dogbone controlelrs. Yes I know, you do not have to use them.

[treismac]

However, I do dislike the Dogbone controlelrs.

Really? Personally, I love 'em. I use them for about 85% of my NES gaming. The other 14% is me using a standard NES controller that I have hooked up to my PC through the RetroUSB Port for emulation. The remaining 1% is me messing around with one of the many other types of controllers I have.

[Polygon]

Did he just say what I think he said?

Yep, it sure looks like it. Maybe someone should tell him that's the reason they tend to stop working.

[bb_hood]

I use an original toaster with a Power Pak cartridge that stays in all the time. That way it always works when I turn it on, and I get the composite out.

Thats exactly what I did, my powerpak has been in my toaster for the last 6-8 months with no problems whatsoever.

I just got my toploader modded by Apolloboy and he did a really great job; I plan on using this toploader from now on.
The only real problem Ive found with the toaster is that when I use an audio splitting wire there is slight distortion which is very noticeable when playing games at a higher volume. The audio from the modded toploader is more clear and produces no distortion. The image on the modded toploader is also very nice, no more vertical bars on the screen.

However, I do dislike the Dogbone controlelrs..

Yeah, I don't like them either. I think the original nes controllers are alot more comfortable. In my opinion the original nes controller is by far the best nes controller.

[Flam]

[QUOTE=bb_hood;1969513]
I just got my toploader modded by Apolloboy and he did a really great job[QUOTE]

how much was the mod? and what all did he do?

[bb_hood]

[QUOTE=Flam;1969517][QUOTE=bb_hood;1969513]
I just got my toploader modded by Apolloboy and he did a really great job

how much was the mod? and what all did he do?

I forget the price, you can check his thread on the 'for sale' forum. I think his price is listed there. I dont remember because he modded a few systems for me, not just the toploader.
He installed the composite video with left/right audio. Very nice work too.

[genesisguy]

Toaster for sure.

I have two toasters. one with a newer pin connector that has the death grip and one that has the old original connector. The one with the old original connector barely grabs the carts but it works 99.9 percent of the time. I'm real happy with that one. I think those death grip connectors could cause some unneeded wear and tear on the old carts.

I've had a few Top Loaders. I go back to them every few years but I'm always let down. Not by the RF but by the jail bars. I end up selling them for some crazy amount on eBay and usually pick up a couple of games with the profit.

[Einzelherz]

Toaster + dogbone. The deck I use was my xmas present from 1988 and it's still running strong on the original connector. My backup is just as old and works just as well. Plus toploader don't A/V.

[sloan]

I have both top loader and front loader models. Play either as the mood strikes. The biggest and best reason to own a top loader IMO is to play PAL games. As has been said, front loaders can be modded to do so, but it requires clipping pin #4 on 10NES chip. Also, I will say that the sharp corners on original NES pads are hand cramping. I love the top loader dog bones for improved hand comfort during long sessions.

[treismac]

What are some worthwhile PAL exclusives for the NES? I kinda want to pickup Probotector (spelling?) one of these days just because it's robot Contra.

[BlastProcessing402]

Did he just say what I think he said?

Oh, like you never blew on a game in your life.

Yep, it sure looks like it. Maybe someone should tell him that's the reason they tend to stop working.

They don't stop working, once in a while they don't work, just like has always been the case with NES games, even when they were brand new. Then you blow on it, and it works. I've been doing this for more than 25 years, and my original system and games still are all just fine.

[Aussie2B]

There's no reason that a brand new NES and a brand new NES game (back when they were truly brand new, that is; anything could happen to a sealed item after all these years) would have trouble working sometimes unless something was defective. Problems start occurring from wear and tear from use and/or when the games/system get dirty.

[The 1 2 P]

I rock a third party top loader(Yobo) but only because I haven't found a cheap Famicom top loader yet. It works like 70% of the time but it might be the games themselves that have issues. The Nes has always been the most nitpicky system I've ever had to try and get working.

[Flam]

so a dog bone controller will work on a toaster and doesn't need to be modded? Might look into buying one of these to use on my toaster.

[treismac]

so a dog bone controller will work on a toaster and doesn't need to be modded? Might look into buying one of these to use on my toaster.

Hell yes the dogbone works on a toaster. As far as I'm concerned, a dogbone and a NES Four Score are the two most important accessories to own for the NES, with the Zapper coming in third. A dogbone is just simply the most comfortable controller for the NES and the Four Score gives you both controller cord extension and rapid fire.