Microsoft Just Posted New Xbox One Details Re Privacy, Used and Always Connected

[Bojay1997]

Microsoft just went live with an information site that explains how privacy, game resale and sharing will work. Apparently, you do need an Internet connection at least once every 24 hours, all games you install will be accessible to you anywhere as well as to your family members and Microsoft won't be charging transfer or used fees, although publishers are free to do so. They may also allow you to give games to a friend if the publisher allows it, but that feature won't be available at launch. While it seems slightly less draconian than the earlier rumors, I have no interest in the Xbox One at this point.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/connected

[The 1 2 P]

I think this is the first time you have ever posted a thread or atleast that I've noticed. Anyway, thanks for the heads up on the info. Hopefully now we will stop getting atleast one new XB1 rumor thread a day.....atleast until Saturday.

[Guyra]

With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.

Microsoft had the chance to sugar coat this part a bit, and this is the best they could do ..?

So yeah, say goodbye to offline gaming, guys!

[Bojay1997]

Microsoft had the chance to sugar coat this part a bit, and this is the best they could do ..?

Well, at least they finally came clean about everything. I can't say the same for Sony.

[Guyra]

Well, they had to at some point. Still wondering what Sony's up to, for sure, but we'll find out very soon.

In any case, it doesn't make their product any better.

[kupomogli]

Well, at least they finally came clean about everything. I can't say the same for Sony.

Yeah they did. The information just wasn't posted by the sources until recently. Even though you do own all consoles, you sure like to bash on Sony whenever you can.

[Bojay1997]

Yeah they did. The information just wasn't posted by the sources until recently. Even though you do own all consoles, you sure like to bash on Sony whenever you can.

No, actually they didn't and the fact that you keep repeating that is an indication that you lack the ability to discern the difference between fact-based information and wishful thinking and speculation. Sony has never said, "you will never need to connect the PS4 to the Internet if you don't want to". Similarly, Sony has never said that it won't lock first party games to a particular account or user. In fact, Sony has specifically declined to respond to the media asking those very questions as recently as last week. All Sony has really said is that the PS4 will play used games (notably, the Xbox One plays used games too) and that in places without robust Internet or for users who don't want to interact with others the system won't have to be always connected (technically true of the Xbox One as well, considering it only needs to be connected once every 24 hours, not "always"). That's not a complete answer to the questions posed.

Frankly, you could say that I am a loyal Sony user with all of my TVs, Blu Ray players, DVD players and even receivers coming from Sony almost exclusively for the past 25+ years. I also want to be a PS4 user if it turns out it is basically the identical set-up to the PS3 where Internet is 100% optional and games can be freely traded, resold, rented, etc... Heck, the PS4 on paper is even apparently a more capable and advanced piece of hardware than the Xbox One. I would love for the PS4 to not only be the best piece of hardware, but also have the most consumer friendly policies. We already know that Sony will allow third party publishers to lock out used games, so I'm looking for confirmation that Sony first party stuff won't be locked out or require an online pass and that I never have to connect to the Internet with the PS4 if I don't want to.

Microsoft has revealed their cards fully now and I'm not interested in the Xbox One. I'd like to see Sony do the same so I can decide if the PS4 meets my criteria for purchase.

[Ed Oscuro]

Well, at least they finally came clean about everything. I can't say the same for Sony.

Getting a comment in before Bojay1997 blathers on about rumors and...oh, I see.

Sony has made it official that it won't be implementing any sort of DRM in the PlayStation 4 to stop the use of used-games The confirmation comes in the form of Sony retroactively having answered the question of used-game DRM. Kotaku had decided to contact Sony directly about the question, and the Sony representative pointed Kotaku towards a statement made by Sony studio chief Shuhei Yoshida back in February.

According to Yoshida, "At a roundtable this morning, Sony's game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that."

http://tech2.in.com/news/console/son...d-games/875088

Kind of funny, I was almost expecting the Xbox One DRM confirmation not to be widely reported yet, but I see the spin game is well underway. Well, time to nip that in the bud.

But I'd love to hear more about how leaks are crap and for more tortured hair-splitting over "well technically they didn't answer questions #1 and #3 blah blah blah" hmm yes very interesting

[Mr Mort]

The 24-hour rule is just inane. It's a lame PR copout in order for them to give us a false impression that the system does not require an internet connection to play single-player games.
Either make the damn thing require a persistent internet connection, or don't at all. This half-assery is just a play on words, and as far as I'm concerned, the system *does* require an internet connection. Just come out and say it, stop beating around the bush.

I'll be the first to admit, my PS3 and 360 are always connected to the internet. So why would I be upset about this 24-hour rule?
Because I don't like being told how, when, and where I can consume the media that I have paid for. It's a matter of principle, and it gives too much leverage to a corporation, and as unlikely as it really is, it's not outside the realm of possibility that this power/leverage can be abused.

[GamerTheGreek]

If a flood of returns come back the day after Christmas. And how GameStop in the past says cash payments are faster than credits. Get in out and gaming faster. What is the implications of. 5-10 cash returns when a store opens and they can't give you cash since they don't have it available and your stuck your plastic turd?

[misfits859]

So, on top of all the other nonsense now we get to a $500 launch price. No thanks. I hate to say it but I'm kinda hoping this things flops a bit.

[TonyTheTiger]

I'm completely shocked that it's that expensive. At a time when most have tightened their belts, expecting to sell any console for above $400 seems like a fool's hope. If the Wii U and 3DS looked like they had lukewarm launches...yeah. I certainly don't expect the One to fly off the shelves at that price.

[Rob2600]

I'm completely shocked that it's that expensive. At a time when most have tightened their belts, expecting to sell any console for above $400 seems like a fool's hope. If the Wii U and 3DS looked like they had lukewarm launches...yeah. I certainly don't expect the One to fly off the shelves at that price.

You underestimate Halo, Call of Duty, and Madden fans

[Greg2600]

CoD and Madden will also be on PS4. Is Halo still a big deal? The PS4 I can't imagine being any cheaper. Much of what happens depends on how long Microsoft keeps the 360 going. If they shut it down soon, that will infuriate a lot of people, and force them into choosing a competitor.

[Ed Oscuro]

There might just be a few fewer Halo fans after all of this.

Besides, Bungie is making a game for the PS4.

[YoshiM]

I'm completely shocked that it's that expensive. At a time when most have tightened their belts, expecting to sell any console for above $400 seems like a fool's hope. If the Wii U and 3DS looked like they had lukewarm launches...yeah. I certainly don't expect the One to fly off the shelves at that price.

People seem to be able to cough up boku cash for iPads on the same economy so it's not that far of a stretch to think they'll do the same for a One. Five months , $100 a month. It's doable for a lot of folks.