Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 Western release canned over sexism concerns

[TonyTheTiger]

As for masturbation material, plenty of fan made porn exists for the Sonic games, Mario games, Street Fighter games, Final Fantasy games, Starfox games, etc. Basically every game ever made featuring a character, has some people obsessing over it in a sexual way. It could be extended to every medium, not just games. Most of these weren't intended to be viewed that way, but people still ended up fantasizing this stuff into existence. To say that Dead or Alive managed to achieve the same thing by having a well done narrative is a bit of a stretch.

Yeah, but all that other material is produced outside of the games. The Sonic, Mario, etc. franchises don't inherently provide a universe that fulfills people's sexual appetites. All that comes from the fan side. DOA, meanwhile, appears to provide all that within the boundaries of the franchise. At least that's the impression I get. I'm not a DOA player myself so, full disclosure, I'm not an expert on the subject.

Anyway, getting back on topic, I do have to give DOAX some credit for actually being fairly logical about its fanservice given the setting and activities involved. That's far, far better than fanservice and sexualized characters just shoehorned in awkwardly.

Bingo. I think that one thing about video games is that a game's mechanics and its conceit have to come simultaneously. You can't ask a player to stop his or her progress just for the sake of providing some fanservice (sexual or otherwise) and expect it not to kind of piss off the player. Think of the unskippable cutscene nonsense a lot of RPGs pull. DOA's conceit is perfectly in line with the tasks the player is asked to perform. It's a beach with beach stuff. All the fanservice is just an extrapolation of that concept. I think of it like Baywatch. Baywatch was actually a really clever show because of how natural it was. It didn't force its fanservice down your throat at the expense of the surrounding story. It was essentially an adventure show that just so happened to star lifeguards.

[otaku]

if it was strictly sales based decision that makes sense and I suppose even if based on our current cultural standing it makes sense. I for one hate where our culture is headed. Being a white male or a male of any kind is a nightmare these days and people are so sensitive about language. I'm sick of walking on eggshells around everyone. You shouldn't have to apologize all the time or give disclaimers with everything. My current girlfriend left her ex for this reason the man couldn't take a joke and was offended by so much it drove her nuts. That said I find myself being accused of sexism because I believe in traditional roles for myself am I fine with cooking and cleaning and all that in the home yes. Do I prefer to drive though when we go somewhere? Yes. I feel like a man living in the wrong time and am often told by people my age that I am like an old man. Given what men used to be I take it as a compliment what we have now are a bunch of overly sensitive children who need to grow up and be men. I work with far too many guys who don't own cars but have tricked out computers and consoles, who can't fix their cars or anything for that matter. Men who abandon their children and wives. I have largely given up on society but I'll be damned if I give up on who I am and my values for it

[Emperor Megas]

I'm a guy who doesn't drive and has consoles. Not tricked out ones, but still. I get most of what you're saying, but I don't understand why having a car is that big a deal. Especially if there's public transportation or someone else who drives in the household. I just really hate driving. *shrugs*

[Graham Mitchell]

I don't get it. What does this one do that the other entries in the series don't that makes it so heinous? Why are people complaining about this now and not 15 years ago?

[The 1 2 P]

I don't get it. What does this one do that the other entries in the series don't that makes it so heinous? Why are people complaining about this now and not 15 years ago?

The world is a much different place than it was 15 years ago. Same sex marriage is now legal, cops are finally held accountable for shooting and killing unarmed people and video games about skimpily dressed girls playing beach volley ball will steal your soul. Actually I think that last one has more to do with the PC change in attitudes we have towards everything these days. But it's still been one hell of a marketing trick for a game that's supposedly not going to release over here in the US.

[Graham Mitchell]

The world is a much different place than it was 15 years ago. Same sex marriage is now legal, cops are finally held accountable for shooting and killing unarmed people and video games about skimpily dressed girls playing beach volley ball will steal your soul. Actually I think that last one has more to do with the PC change in attitudes we have towards everything these days. But it's still been one hell of a marketing trick for a game that's supposedly not going to release over here in the US.

Meanwhile the porn industry gets a pass. And video games depicting torture scenes don't even raise an eyebrow.

[The 1 2 P]

Well real porn almost always gets a free pass provided it stays in the hands and viewing area of adults. It's only when there are sex scenes depicted in video games or books when people decide to get up and arms about porn because they are completely misinterpreting the video games or books in question. But I agree with you about the torture scenes. And this is of course due to the culture over here in the US. Depictions of violence are much more accepted here than other places so it's one of the last things people are going to go after unless there's something very recent in the media spotlight like another mass school shooting or terrorist attack.