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    Default Games Starring Positive Portrayals of Black People

    I feel like I'm walking on egg shells... in a minefield. But I've been thinking about this topic lately, and I wanted to get some genuine feedback and thought going on here.

    What are some games which star fictional, black "good role models?" (I'd write African-Americans, but not all "black people" are Americans, nor are all dark-skinned people originated from Africa). And I'm definitely not trying to offend anyone, so please try not to be offensive.

    What games am I looking for? I'm not looking for sports games as those usually feature a black player due to his skill at his particular sport and that player is usually not the only choice. And let's not count games where you use a random character generator or where you design the look of a character or other things like that where who you play as is up to a player's design. And as we are talking about "good guys," let's not include games where the main playable character is a gangster or a rapper or a convict or a "violent criminal."

    We are talking about games featuring a playable main character who is black and is working to save the world or working for the betterment of mankind and who will always (or mostly) choose the path of righteousness.

    And while we are broaching the topic, what are your theories on why there are so few games featuring playable black people, and why do you think there are so few featuring good characters that are black? We have all sorts of games, especially in the 80's and 90's, where the hero is white or pale-skinned, but so few where the protagonist is black.

    In the beginning of computer/video gaming, there were no humans portrayed in the games, just non-human objects like numbers or paddles or spaceships, so there wasn't this situation initially. Then graphics improved enough to begin showing recognizable representations of humans, and that's when things got started in this topic. Just imagine what it would have been like if the main hero in Dragon Warrior was black, or the warriors from Gauntlet, or the guys from Contra, or even Pitfall Harry. Nothing would have to be changed about the story, and yet these games feature your usual pale-skinned heroes, often due to the designers of the games being Caucasian or Japanese.

    Some might say, "It doesn't matter," or "It's all about the gameplay." I understand what you mean, but if it truly "doesn't matter," then why are there so few black characters starring in video games?

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    I can think of a few off the top of my head:
    Streets of Rage
    Industrial Spy
    Quartet
    Space Raiders
    Choaniki
    Dynamite Cop
    Michael Jordan in Chaos in the Windy City
    Shaq Fu
    Power Punch II
    Eternal Darkness
    Marvel Ultimate Alliance
    Cyber Lip
    Forgotten Worlds

    There's a start, anyway.

    Anyhow, as for theories, I'd say a lot of classic games were developed in Japan, which has had somewhat of a Xenophobic history, so I'd hazard a guess that many Japanese-developed games were developed with Japanese characters in mind. People tend to create from that with which they are familiar. When white people tell stories, they tend to be about white people. When black people tell stories, they tend to be about black people.

    If anything, especially in regard to early game development, I'd say that there weren't enough black developers out there getting to tell the stories they wanted to tell. If racism were to be a factor, I wouldn't say it was from game designers who made the games so much as a lack of opportunities for black game creators, whether from the hiring process or education system that failed to get black creators into that field.
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    I honestly wouldn't really care what color character I played as, but for games in the 80s and 90s, all I can remember is Final Fantasy 7, Shadow Man, and a couple Spawn games.
    Everything in the above post is opinion unless stated otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentlegamer View Post
    *not sure if DP or tumblr*
    A forum is what you make of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    When white people tell stories, they tend to be about white people. When black people tell stories, they tend to be about black people.
    True, except a lot of anime in the 1970's and 1980's featured black characters. They were almost always part of a squad or a team or the officers on the bridge. Not the main protagonist, true, but since that time a lot less black characters have shown up in Japanese media.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Megas View Post
    These are always alternate player though.
    Exactly. It's only a little difficult naming games with pre-made playable black characters that are good people, but it's actually pretty tough to name games with a pre-made playable black character that is a good person and that is the only playable character or the primary playable character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Megas View Post
    At any rate, you can add Sheva from Resident Evil 5 to the list.
    What was her character like? Noble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanooki View Post
    Mike Tyson
    Fails on two counts:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nz17
    I'm not looking for sports games as those usually feature a black player due to his skill at his particular sport and that player is usually not the only choice. And as we are talking about "good guys," let's not include games where the main playable character is a gangster or a rapper or a convict or a "violent criminal."
    Quote Originally Posted by Hep038 View Post
    The Walking Dead is a modern game with a leading black character.
    What was her character like? Could you play the whole thing through an "honorable path?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    I can think of a few off the top of my head:
    Choaniki
    Ummm... You sure you're thinking of the right game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy_98 View Post
    Ummm... You sure you're thinking of the right game?
    Yes. Adon and Samson are portayed as powerful, heroic, and purely good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    Forgotten Worlds
    I dunno, I always thought he was a guido who hit the tanning bed a lot, or possibly Hispanic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nz17 View Post

    And while we are broaching the topic, what are your theories on why there are so few games featuring playable black people, and why do you think there are so few featuring good characters that are black? We have all sorts of games, especially in the 80's and 90's, where the hero is white or pale-skinned, but so few where the protagonist is black.

    In the beginning of computer/video gaming, there were no humans portrayed in the games, just non-human objects like numbers or paddles or spaceships, so there wasn't this situation initially. Then graphics improved enough to begin showing recognizable representations of humans, and that's when things got started in this topic. Just imagine what it would have been like if the main hero in Dragon Warrior was black, or the warriors from Gauntlet, or the guys from Contra, or even Pitfall Harry. Nothing would have to be changed about the story, and yet these games feature your usual pale-skinned heroes, often due to the designers of the games being Caucasian or Japanese.
    Many, if not most games in the 80s/90s were designed by Japanese, and Japan never had a large demographic of black people. In many cases, I dont think we can be sure that these 'white' main characters are caucasian rather than asian.

    What about Michael Jackson's moonwalker? He was a good role model.. for awhile at least.
    Also what about Mr. Game & Watch? Not saying he is black but hes definitly not pale skinned.


    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    People tend to create from that with which they are familiar. When white people tell stories, they tend to be about white people. When black people tell stories, they tend to be about black people.
    When Japanese people tell stories they tend to be about Italian plumbers.
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    I can't remember. Was Michael Jackson still black when Moonwalker came out or had he already begun to turn white?

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    A few 80's and 90's games had alternate black second player characters, and they were generally selectable in single payer mode. A few I can think of are:

    Global Gladiators (Mack)
    Forgotten Worlds (Unknown Solider 2)
    NARC (Hitman)
    Smash T.V. (Player 2)
    Toobin' (Jet)
    Total Carnage (Player 2)

    These are always alternate player though, which makes since considering that blacks are an extreme minority in most of the markets that video games are sold. There are a lot of brawlers and vs. fighters that had black playable characters as well. There are also games that are centered around black characters that already exist in other forms (comic book and film characters for example). I'd wager this is the case with most games centered in black lead characters.

    At any rate, you can add Sheva from Resident Evil 5 to the list.

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    Final Fantasy VII was the first one that sprang to mind for me too. Maybe Jax from Mortal Kombat? He's ostensibly one of the good guys, as good as anyone can be in that franchise.

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    Burning Rangers has a black character named Big Landman. He can be unlocked as a playable character on a couple of levels after completing the game as Shou, or Tillis.

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/saturn/19684...rangers/cheats
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    The Walking Dead is a modern game with a leading black character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nz17 View Post
    What games am I looking for? I'm not looking for sports games as those usually feature a black player due to his skill at his particular sport and that player is usually not the only choice. And let's not count games where you use a random character generator or where you design the look of a character or other things like that where who you play as is up to a player's design. And as we are talking about "good guys," let's not include games where the main playable character is a gangster or a rapper or a convict or a "violent criminal."
    Rapper doesn't necessarily equate anything bad, whether bad influence or criminal.
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    Yeah, that was probably an unfortunate short hand or oversight. He probably meant 'gangster' rapper, or one of an unsavory variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria View Post
    Walking Dead: He. And absolutely. Although in the first episode he's on his way to prison for a murder he didn't commit. But the entire game revolves around moral choices and his attempts to protect a little girl from zombies.
    You must not have played the game all the way through. Lee wasn't falsely accused - through certain choices, he openly admits to Clem that he killed the man his wife was having an affair with. That's canon.

    Even so, I still see Lee as a positive portrayal of a black person in games if you choose to mold him that way. You can also make Lee into a silent creep or a raging asshole, it's up to the player. My point is it's up to the player to choose who Lee is after he's convicted of murder and the game begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    You must not have played the game all the way through. Lee wasn't falsely accused - through certain choices, he openly admits to Clem that he killed the man his wife was having an affair with. That's canon.

    Even so, I still see Lee as a positive portrayal of a black person in games if you choose to mold him that way. You can also make Lee into a silent creep or a raging asshole, it's up to the player. My point is it's up to the player to choose who Lee is after he's convicted of murder and the game begins.
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    My point is, Lee isn't a stereotypical black man. It might seem that way since the game begins with a black guy arrested for murder, but it was a situation that had nothing to do with ethnicity, and I don't think that anything of his character would have changed had be been white, a woman, or whatever. The Walking Dead lets the player mold Lee.
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