NES Toploader "Vertical Line" Problem Help!

[Djpst]

Can someone help me figure out how to eliminate the "vertical lines" that appear on the TV screen on light colored backgrounds when playing games on the Top-Loader NES? I've seen several unclear suggestions such as soldering parts in or converting to RCA outputs - but no solid awnsers / instructions. Please Help!
Thanks,
Dave

[WiseSalesman]

This has been mentioned here in many previous threads. check the restoration society forum.

[jonjandran]

There is no fix.

People have tried RCA and S-Video mods and the lines are still there.

Someone was trying to add a cap to filter out the lines. He had no luck with this, and if he couldn't do it I don't think it can be done.

The theory is that it is actually a RF interference problem If you take the Metal shielding out of a Regular Toaster Nes you get the same lines.

I've tried to put shielding on the top-loader and it doesn't help.

But , and I may be wrong abou this, I think it's been mentioned that the Jap Top-Loader doesn't have this problem.Maybe someone can buy one , take it apart and figure out what the difference is.

[omnedon]

It's beyond my abilities. FABombjoy? jsoper?

[WiseSalesman]

If it's beyond omnedon's abilities, I'd wager a guess it can't be done in one's home workshop.

[omnedon]

Just because I post a lot, does not mean I know it all. I appreciate the vote of confidence, but some guys around here , like jsoper and FABombjoy have some proper training (which I do not). I have the utmost respect for their inputs.

I'm just a post whore.

[ApolloBoy]

Odd, I don't get any vertical lines like that on my top-loader.

[WiseSalesman]

Odd, I don't get any vertical lines like that on my top-loader.

[FABombjoy]

This is just one of those things that a lot of people have tried a lot of band-aid solutions on, but nobody has found the cure. I've heard the whole 'put a cap on the board where it's missing a cap' fix, but I've also heard that it only works with PAL models. I may try a few things on my toploader once my backlog of stuff-to-do is cleared up.

[ddockery]

If anybody does figure this out I'd be extremely interested. I've actually considered parting with mine a few times because I always avoid using for this very reason!

[Bratwurst]

Anyone ever consider swapping the video box from a toaster with the one in a top loader? Again, I've never seen the innards of a top loader but can attest the video box in the old style NES is shielded like a tank.

[jonjandran]

Anyone ever consider swapping the video box from a toaster with the one in a top loader? Again, I've never seen the innards of a top loader but can attest the video box in the old style NES is shielded like a tank.

I'll take a look and get back with you in a few.

[FABombjoy]

Has anybody done the A/V mod, and do the lines still appear in that?

[jonjandran]

Has anybody done the A/V mod, and do the lines still appear in that?

I've talked to several people who have and they say the lines are still there.

Of course this guy claims different.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3617

[jonjandran]

Anyone ever consider swapping the video box from a toaster with the one in a top loader? Again, I've never seen the innards of a top loader but can attest the video box in the old style NES is shielded like a tank.

I'll take a look and get back with you in a few.

No dice .
The one in the Toaster is 5 times the size and includes the rca parts.

[Bratwurst]

Of course this guy claims different.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3617

He would make that claim, being the seller, wouldn't he?

No dice .
The one in the Toaster is 5 times the size and includes the rca parts.

Thanks for confirming a long suspicion of mine, anyway.

[The Manimal]

Has anyone considering modding so that the ORIGINAL NES has the cartridge slot of the REDESIGN NES? So it would be a sideways TOP LOADER..

[Bratwurst]

Has anyone considering modding so that the ORIGINAL NES has the cartridge slot of the REDESIGN NES? So it would be a sideways TOP LOADER..

Been there, done that.

http://www.angelfire.com/apes/madmeat/toaster1.html

[pango]

when i design the best ever in the universe pirate nes/famicom extravaganza (which i have many plans for in the future) i'll keep that in mind

[The Manimal]

Has anyone considering modding so that the ORIGINAL NES has the cartridge slot of the REDESIGN NES? So it would be a sideways TOP LOADER..

Been there, done that.

http://www.angelfire.com/apes/madmeat/toaster1.html

how did you do this? do you have it stabilized so the thing doesn't wobble around? i don't know if I'd personally want the cartridge slot being THAT far out (having the cart poke out way far past the console), but you have the right idea (of what I was talking about).