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    Default A Saga of Flea Market Woes (or: Ohio Americans, Part 2)

    Well, I took the hour-and-a-half drive south from Columbus to Monroe, OH, today with my wife and we visited the Turtle Creek Flea Market.

    First of all, WOW! What an utterly amazing sight! That place is freakin' huge!

    Okay, that said, on to the topic at hand:

    As reported, there are no less than five (5) video game stores, although a good deal of them appeared suspiciously similar to one another. Every place that had games had a meager but fair selection of NES and SNES titles. Genesis titles were found in numbers comparable to the other machines titles and one booth even sold Genesis sports titles for $.50 a cart (goes to show just how unpopular or common those things are).

    Sadly, only one booth had any Jaguar games and, though I did not actually see a Tempest 2000 cart, I'm fairly certain that, given the selection of carts that were visible, one could have been found fairly easily in that stack. But, of what good is a cart without the console to play it on? Sadly again, the well-meaning, but obviously otherwise disinterested, youngster behind the counter only had one Jaguar console in his booth. When I asked for a price on that console, I was informed that this was a "display unit" and not for sale as it was really the only unit the owner of the booth had. The young man then returned to the arduous task of staring at lint on the floor. BAH! I say! I don't understand what the point of showing a machine is if you are not going to offer it for sale. Is it all merely to cause one to hope against hope that one's personal Holy Grail can be in sight, perhaps even held, but never truly owned by any man save he who has the greater power of being the Flea Market booth renter? Disheartened, but not defeated, I continued on from this booth of disillusionment with hopes of discovering another source for this treasure elsewhere, though the source was never found in the end.

    After this tragic episode, I determined to focus my general energies elsewhere. Perhaps an old NES and a cart or two would present themselves for my acquisition, I thought. This secondary search of my mine, very much unlike the first, turned up many offers. It seems that NES consoles can be had almost by the dozen, one booth even had a sizeable literal stack of them from floor to counter-height. The little grey "toasters" were everywhere, and everywhere they were an insane rip-off. $40!?!?! for a machine that is more than half as old as me? Now, we're not talking about clean, well-cared-for units that might garner a top-dollar price simply for their solid condition. I'm talking about units that look like they just came out of under a pile of old clothes and porn magazines in someone's attic, basement, or storeroom closet. Now, certainly there wasn't a one among these units that couldn't have been re-furbished with a little tender, loving care and a touch of technical skill, but if I am going to have to take the unit home, disassemble it, clean it, make minor repairs to it, and then put the whole thing back together again and make it work, I am not going to give anybody more than a couple of dollars for what otherwise is nothing more than a mausoleum for cockroaches who gave up their life force when Duran Duran was still a top ten band. For $40 or less I could have easily just gone to the local mega-mall and looked up some guy named Ahmed or Habib and purchased one of his illicit Famiclones to partake of some of that good old retro-joy on. Needless to say, I spent the greater part of my day asking prices on old NES units and shaking my head at the demands of sellers who apparently needed the exhorbitant amounts of cash they were seeking to buy new sets of teeth to fill in the few gaps around the one or two teeth they actually did have in their heads.

    Overall, as usual, while the finds to be found are extraordinary in many places, it seems like everyone and their brother has been going to EBay and finding what the most ridiculously high price a fool paid for a product was and then they come to the Flea Market with their pile of garbage and demand that we pay them the same ridiculous amounts for their crap while claiming "That's what it's going for on EBay." BAH! I say! I am not some FOOL with money to burn!!! I work an honest day for an honest wage and I want to get honest value for the money I spend as it does not come easily. Oh, I know that Flea Markets aren't necessarily the shining stars of the Better Business Bureau, I'm also not going to be shanghai'd into paying two and three times more for an item than what it is worth.

    My wife and I found lots of neat stuff for our home and for the nursery we are building. A friend of ours, an exchange student from Zimbabwe, found many neat items to decorate her college dorm room. I picked up a great compilation of Spanish hip-hop tunes (I am Mexican, after all) for myself. All in all, we had a great time. It was just that the things that I had really wanted to get were all just so ridiculously over-price and not in any kind of a decent condition for the amount they were asking.

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    Thats the way it is with permanent flea markets. Most overcharge horrendously. However, I suggest you keep going back. More often than not, those sellers know crap about games, at least, in comparison to anyone on this board.

    There are a few of those permanent indoor flea markets around here. Two booths that sell games notoriously overcharge. On one choice weekend, I managed to score big.

    Booth #1) 4 Coleco Tabletop arcades. $2 each. They are worth between $25 and $75.

    Booth #2) A factory sealed kid vid voice module for the 2600. An R10 (should really be an R9 though...) $60.

    Just be patient. You'll get yours

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    One thing about a vendor having a display unit is many people who shop at a flea market don't trust the vendors whether or not the game works so if someone asks if the game they are buying works, the vendor can just pop it in the machine and boot up the game. That way the buyer can see what they're getting beforehand, instead of getting home plugging it in to their own system, have it not work and then track down the vendor the next time the flea market is there. My friend has a booth at the local flea market by me and has a tv set up with all the common systems so that if someone doesn't trust that it works he can just show them, and he has all the less common systems able to be hooked up easily if anyone wants to test them.
    He makes many more sales than all the other videogame vendors do just because he can guarantee the quality of his games. Now lots of the regular game buyers their always bring the games they buy from other sellers to him to test it out before they leave. So the display unit is mostly for the peace of mind for the buyer knowing they'll get a quality product, and of the seller so they know they won't have someone come back the next week yelling at them that they can't get the game they bought to work.

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    I know that I'm mostly just belly-aching, but it really did drive me bats.

    A bunch of guys had these old Tonka toys that were totally crap. Rusted and dented with missing plastic and just not very nice for $125 to $250!?!?!

    WHAH!?!?!?!

    I have collected and refurbished many an old Tonka in my day and, believe me, the $#!^ that these fools were trying to pass off as vintage was nowhere near worth the money they were asking. Sure, if these trucks had been cleaned up, dents fixed, plastic repaired, bodies re-painted, or, better yet, had these been vintage trucks in original or original-but-played-with condition they can be worth a whole heck of a lot, but not when they are just rusty old piles of junk that someone would have to put a couple of hundred dollars worth of parts and many hours of love into to ever recoup their money off of them.

    I'd happily pay $20 to $50 for a heap Tonka if it showed potential, and a few of these did, but they all want to charge like if this was some sort of super-fine-mint-condition rarity.

    It was like that with lots of the stuff that has proven to be popular amongst collectors on EBay. Like I said, my wife and our friend and I all found some pretty neat stuff, but the rip-offs were way too prevalent and so blatant and you can't really argue with anyone because if you refuse to pay the insane prices these idiots are asking they just won't sell you the stuff in hopes that a "better sucker" will come along. In the end, you don't get anything cool and some poor, unsuspecting pawn gets jacked thinking they've made some great investment only to find out they've been had because the stuff they've got isn't worth what they sold it to them for.

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    Ahem:
    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38487

    And I'm an hour north of ya. Keep the faith. Stuff is out there. I haven't found anything worthy in nearly a year. And though it wasn't a bumper crop of actual "games," it was indeed a bounty of retrogaming goodness.
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    What you were saying about finding Jag stuff... I went looking for Jag stuff around a year ago all over Columbus and found nothing, plus nobody had ANY TG16 stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Querjek
    What you were saying about finding Jag stuff... I went looking for Jag stuff around a year ago all over Columbus and found nothing, plus nobody had ANY TG16 stuff.
    One of the first booths I went into (on the end of the building nearest the parking lot entrance, like 1 or 2 I think) had a bunch of different junk in it (old action figures, some other plastic toys, nothing too great. They had three or four televisions set up with consoles running on each of them (I remember a Genesis on one of them) The largest television had an Atari Jaguar with Cybermorph running on it (this is the one that the kid said was for "display only").

    There was a glass counter that ran from where the televisions to the opposite side of the booth along the back of the booth and the kid sat behind that picking his nose and whatnot. In the case, at the far right end, was a stack of about 12-20 Jaguar cartridges. I think I remember seeing Iron Soldier in there and maybe Dragon. I didn't look at the carts except through the case, so there could have been anything in there. I also didn't ask for the price on them as I was really more interested in obtaining a console first.

    Not knowing that Jaguars and such were so rare I really didn't think much more of it after the kid said he couldn't sell me the console and I figured I'd be able to find another one elsewhere. Sadly, I didn't find any other sellers with Jaguars or Jaguar games (though I may be wrong, one booth at the end of the same hall where the halls all meet might have had a couple of carts, I think).

    I did, however, find a seller with a pair of Nintendo Super Famicoms (one was even in it's box!) for $180 each! I'd like to have another one of those as mine was lost in a move many years ago (I only paid $50 for that one back in the day). I certainly did not see ANY TG-16 stuff and haven't in a very long time (how feasible is a PC-Engine collection anyways?).

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    Did you see anything other than the SFC systems, import-wise? Any SFC games? I've already got an SFC and I know that Columbus is not a common house for imports, but, hey, you never know
    Egbert, I miss you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodMedia
    <snip flea market escapades>
    Welcome to the world of retro-collecting in Ohio. I've been dealing with the same type of situations for close 15 years now... As sniderman pointed out, you run across the occasional bumper-crop, but 95% of the time it's a virtual wasteland. I've pretty much given up on "the hunt" unless I'm on vacation (in which case I'll check out the local game stores), and stick exclusively to shows like CGE and Philly Classic, eBay or other online vendors.

    It's really tough when you see people posting to various forums talking about their weekend finds when you can't find anything of worth in your vicinity. Must be a regional thing.
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    NYC posters im sure know about Multimedia 1.0 on st. marks street. Well I was in there the other day looking around and noticed that all of their shrinked wrapped NES consoles have a sticker on them of $99.99 i was completely shocked.

    I bough my dreamcast from there about 6 months ago and it was 40 dollars shrink wrapped. with a bad controller, no vmu, etc. ugh. luckily it works and is the oldest movel from nov 99 i think. so most games play on it, except a few. i kinda hate how the dreamcast is very picky about certain games? is there anything i can do about that? i've had to buy numerous copies of comes games so it would work. and these games were all completely in pristine condition so it made no sense why they wouldnt work. ugh

    never really did the flea market thing though. or ebay actually. i unfortunately have been buying my retro games from stores like multimedia that way overcharge.

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    Sadly, only one booth had any Jaguar games and, though I did not actually see a Tempest 2000 cart, I'm fairly certain that, given the selection of carts that were visible, one could have been found fairly easily in that stack.
    Yeah, I probably bought it there a few months ago...the description of that booth sounds exactly like where I got mine. :P Yeah, Turtle Creek is big, and it has a lot of places...you need to hit Trader's World on the other side of I-75. It's a little light on the VG stuff, but it makes up for it in pure kitch factor.

    Never give up hope...I've gone there 3 months in a row and never spent a dime...and then I hit it, and find $100 worth of stuff.
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