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    Default Snes repair FAQ (work in progress)

    Snes FAQ:
    Ive tried to document the snes errors and how to fix them as good as i could
    (still learning about it and finding new errors and finding out how to fix em) i
    take no respons for anything writtin in it its on your on damn risk. dont like it ?
    well fuck you try writting a better one 6 in the morning with a hangover. yeah its
    probably got like 1 billion typos or bad grammar but my main language aint english
    its SWEDISH. here's the faq.

    oh btw if your planning to "steal" it for a page or so please ask for permission
    first ill probably dont care and say its ok but still i wanna know where it can be
    found. ill update it if i find out anything more.

    Wanna help out a bit ? you can do this 2 ways either send me an issue that is common and how to fix it "concreet evidence" not guesses please. or you could aid me in my quest by sending me busted up consoles (all consoles are welcome broken / working )

    Q. why doesnt my snes power on?
    A. one of the following or multipl might be the cause: the adaptor is broken, the fuse
    is blown, the 7805 inside the snes is broken the switch is broken.

    Q. ive changed the 7805 but my snes still doesnt poweron, when i push the power i get power for an instance as the led flashes what is the problem?
    A. Behind the 7805 if you remove the Coolingplate there is a small surface mounted component named D1 replace it (not sure what it is some sort of geizerbridge?)

    Q. Why does my snes fuse bust all the time?
    A. Your either got a broken U12 (7805) or lack the C87 Cap
    most common on snes with built in Soundcards. Value of
    C87 should be about 2200 uF 50V.

    Q. Why doesnt my snes work with a nes/snes ac adaptor?
    A. Either the adaptor is broken or your snes lack the DB1 (sometimes marked as D1)
    Geizerbridge (some snes with build in sound cards lack this component)
    try replacing it with a bridge that can handle atleast 1.5A!

    Q. Why is the Screen black when i try to play an import ?
    A. The lockout chip causes this problem (otherwise known as U8) lift leg 4
    to solve problem.

    Q. What would happen if i bypass the Fuse?
    A. Basicly nothing of greater importance, the fuse purpose is to avoid U12 from
    killing itself and the rest of the snes when it malfunctions (if for some
    strange fucked up reason it tries to drain more then the max current it
    can handle) this is often not a problem since U12 doesnt let power pass
    once its fried.

    Q. I can hear sound but it sounds really really bad and cuts what the problem?
    A. your amplifier is probably malfunctioning due to failure of surrounding components
    check if the amplifier cap aint displaced (not soldered as it should be like
    shifted 90 degress, yes a robot slacked off and fucked up) should be a cap connected
    somehow with a circuit named something like LM3xx (cant remember the possition).

    Q. I get screen but some or all sprites look strange how do i fix this?
    A. Check U4 and U5 for solderbridges or other oddites if you cant see anything try
    replacing one at a time. (U4 and U5 are the video ram used by the PPU's)

    Q. The screen fades down when i use the A/V output but not when using the RF input why?
    A. Remove the Capacitors in your RGB cable due to some issues some snes units specially pal fade down and some dont even display picture at all when you use a rgb cable with caps in it (ALL fabrical constructed cables have CAPS)

    Q. How come you know so much about the snes?
    A. ive seen a blue print of it or rather a badly reverse enginered blueprint.(most
    things on it doesnt make sense like why 50% of all pins ar grounded without any
    type of explanation of their purpose)

    Q. Will my US adaptor fit a Jap unit ?
    A. No! there are 3 types of plugs on the snes the US, Pal and Jap. Pal and Jap look
    the same but Pal uses possitive voltage in the middle while Jap uses the outside.
    the Us have the same voltages pinouts as the Jap one but a diffrent plug.

    Q. Do US snes have RGB output?
    A. Yes all types of Snes do have RGB output but youll need a US with that supports
    RGB input in the scart connector.

    Q. What type of outputs do the snes have and what is the best? and why?
    A. Snes supports RF, RGB, Composit and S-vhs. RF is avaible on all snes without any
    extra cables its also the worst one of them all since sound and picture is encoded
    in the same cable using diffrent frequencys, Composit is like a cleaner version of
    the RF its almost the same but instead of having sound sent in the same signal its
    seperated on its own (RGB S-vhs and Composite all use the same sound pins), RGB
    is a clean seperation of RED GREEN and BLUE signal all colors are stransmitted as a
    seperat signal along side with an additional signal called SYNC this is the best
    hence its more sharp colors. S-Vhs is a compressed version of RGB and like most
    compression you lose quality.

    Q. Some games tend to reset after i while when i use a RGB cable why?
    A. This is a common issue on some games with special copy protects like yoshi's island
    to solve this issue replace your original snes AC/AC adaptor with a AC/DC adaptor.
    the ac/ac adaptor causes ripples and interrupt something on the screen output part
    causing the copy protection to active when receiving a loopback from the rgb toggle.
    Broken? fix it.

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    That is GREAT Mr. Kitt.
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    Nice job thus far!
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    thanks i figgured it was time for someone to publish some sort of help for people with busted snes units.. :P would have posted stuff on nes / mastersystem stuff too but havent had so much problem with neither nes or mastersystem.

    and o ive already mentioned this in another post but if your Nes wont work due to "nes busters" try using a small screwdriver and pulling the utter pins down on the 72pin connector.
    Broken? fix it.

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    Hmm, I've got a couple of units that I thought I fried while trying to mod them a couple of years back. No life in the at all.
    D'ya think there's any chance that it's just the U12 that's the problem?
    I'll have a look tonight and see if I can get any results...

    Many thanks!

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    if it doesnt even light the power led its probably the U12 or fuse but if it turns on but still black screen its probably the CPU (U1) who has a bad solder somewhere.
    Broken? fix it.

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    What would my SNES repair FAQ read like? Hmm...

    "Q: My SNES isn't working. What can I do?
    A: Find $10 and buy a working one."

    Yup. Sounds about right.

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    Wrong forum for that sort of talk Mr. Smashed.

    If you haven't anything helpful to contibrute, don't. A day may come when you will not be able to replace old consoles so easily, and this gathered information will be even more useful than it is now.
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    I'm sorry.

    No hard feelings?

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    Jeez.

    BTW, a lot of the 'restoration' guys look at broken consoles as a mountain. You climb it cause it's there.

    For me, troubleshooting stuff that is easily replaced, is a great way to learn to test and do some things that are best tried first on a low value item. I learned to solder on badly busted ColecoVisions. SNES's can be a great place to start for the curious, and guidance here is handy dandy.

    For those who are not in the know, Mr. Smashy and I are neighbours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
    "Q: My SNES isn't working. What can I do?
    A: Find $10 and buy a working one."
    Well, you can always fix a broken one you found in the trash and sell it to someone for $10

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKitt
    but my main language aint english its SWEDISH, unlike US people most countrys teach 1-2 other languages besides the native one why you ask ? well if we would be so fucking stupid and only learned our native language you US people wouldnt understand us.(HINT HINT this is a insult to uneducated us people).
    Nice, cohesive documentation on many of the circuit components but how would you like it if someone corrolated Sweden's social system and its inordinately large population of lazy fucks? Just saying.

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    I've met more educated Americans than I can shake a stick at, and I'm Canadian.

    Can't we all just get along?

    I used to think Mr. Kitt was abrupt, but when you take into account English is not his mother tongue, and the limitations of text, perhaps some leeway is in order.

    The logic of the circuits transcends geopoloitical differences my friends.

    Succumb to the beauty of the logic.
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    the point was not mach anyone more then people who actually do get offended by it and about the whole "what about sweden and its lame stuff" part well last ive checked sweden always gets hacked on by us movie industry and stereotypes like sweden = blond big busty bitches so dont tell me anything about critic.

    btw my native language is binary :P
    Broken? fix it.

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    SNES Repair FAQ comments only. Don't make me make it look like it never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omnedon
    That is GREAT Mr. Kitt.
    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
    What would my SNES repair FAQ read like? Hmm...

    "Q: My SNES isn't working. What can I do?
    A: Find $10 and buy a working one."

    Yup. Sounds about right.
    other than a yard sale, where will you find a snes for ten dollars?
    It is pitch black. If you continue you are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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    What are the screwdrivers needed to open snes called... where can i get them?
    Cryptopsy!

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    they are called security bits (not the ones that are included in the bit sets)
    and you can get them from a bunch of places like www.mcmelectronics.com
    liksang.com etc..

    or you could make your own by using a bic pen and removing the plastic tupe and then heat up the lower part and then placing it on a bit and letting it dry / cool
    Broken? fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gast
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
    "Q: My SNES isn't working. What can I do?
    A: Find $10 and buy a working one."
    Well, you can always fix a broken one you found in the trash and sell it to someone for $10
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