Is this possible? More specifically, is this possible with a Gamecube? Or is progressive scan signaling a component-only thing?
Progressive scan + S-Video?
Is this possible? More specifically, is this possible with a Gamecube? Or is progressive scan signaling a component-only thing?
Progressive scan is a component only thing.
if that's the case why waste money of those fancy HDTV with the component input and all...
seriously only component(YUV), RGBVH and DVI-A/D are the ones with prog-scan...
yes you do need rather expensiive Nintendo component cable coz it contains the other half of component missing from GC itself to output prog signal...
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Yeah, kinda what I figured for Gamecube. What about with PS2? It's got all the progressive scan modulation on-board, so could it theoretically do it with s-video? Or do most TVs not even support that?
No, no s-video pro scan. Can't happen with anything. Has to be one of the higher connections.
that's just normal cable although you will need PS2 one since the connector on PS2 isn't like RCA/BNC sockets.Originally Posted by davidbrit2
I got PS2 component cable from eBay AU seller for A$18 or something...
works well and no complaint from me when I tested on my PDP...
and S-video is completely different from Component.
it's like composite and S-video aren't the same thing.
they all use different ways to transmit the signal to compatible display and minimise the noise/interference...
unless you get Component->S-video converter - let's face it why would you want such a thing? - it's not possible...
Actually, they're very very similar. S-Video is basically composite with the luma and chroma signals split up. Component is like S-Video with the chroma signals split into some weird differential signal. All the sync signaling and whatnot is identical, and even the Guncon will work with component video cables.
what I was getting wasthe method in which signals were carried were different hence you can't mix one with another...
of course you can fake and put the composite into s-video input the signal will be still composite, not s-video unless you use some sort of scaler... same story for component and s-video... if you use scaler well you can but not out of box with just TV and console...
Not really. The only big difference is the color encoding. And I don't get what you mean about "mixing". Whether or not the hardware is producing a 30 KHz horizontal scan as opposed to 15 KHz is really all that typifies 480p progressive scan. There's no technical impossibility with doing this over an s-video cable. It just comes down to whether or not hardware manufacturers have designed their hardware to modulate/demodulate progressive scan over the s-video port in addition to the component connectors. For whatever reason, though, I'm suspecting most stuff doesn't do this.
there are all sorts of post processing to play with the signal but the original poster asked whether S-video can carry prog-signal and the answer is no since I don't believe when they designed the specification for S-video the prog-scan was on their mind... of course nowadays you can get converter/transcoder/ and what not to convert one way or the other...
That's just it, s-video encoding and pinouts don't need to be engineered to support it. When 15 pin VGA monitors came out, they didn't support anywhere near the scan rates that new ones do. The VGA spec didn't have to be thrown out to get a 1024 line image, though. You just crank up the clock rate of the signal, and make sure the monitor can handle that rate to get more scan lines.
if you buy a progressive unit, you sure can make composite and s-video sources progressive scan.
i use an i-scan pro hooked up to a computer monitor for many systems and it works excellent.
willie
Well, I don't want upscan converting. That can potentially cause slight lag in the image. I'm just wondering if there's a really simple way to use progressive scan with the TVs here in the apartment lounge. I'm a cheap bastard and I don't feel like buying component cables when I don't actually own a TV with component inputs.
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