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Yea this has been getting a LOT of peoples attention the last couple of days.
Seems like Sony doesn't care ?
hmmmm....makes me mildly worried considering i preordered...and it doesnt really seem to care that there is a problem
i guess the + is not every system was returned only 0.6%
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Well, I wonder how bad this really is. :/
I can see not wanting to change the screen or the size -- but is'nt there ANYTHING that can be done with the layout of the buttons so that the X button is'nt cramped?
"Four o'clock and all is well.....wish I was in bed, Sir."
-- Guard in the Imperial City, Oblivion
"Kutaragi said, "I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect's blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It's the same as that."
What an arrogant cocksucker.
so basically he is saying "the button is off on some units, we did it on purpose though, if your button sticks or sometimes wont even work, im not sorry for anything, we've engineered it that way"
Thats sony, engineering architectural crap since 1946
that qoute got me thinking. if that architect totally fucked up the buildings design and made it unusable for its original purpose arent the buyers gonna be mighty pissed :/Originally Posted by Wavelflack
Kuturagi is forgetting a few things with his analogy. First, he isn't really (nor is Sony) a "renowned architect". He helped design an elegant and efficient piece of hardware (PS1), and followed up by a flawed, inefficient console that has a massive failure rate. An architect who designed one nice building and followed up with one that was structurally unsound, required many workarounds, and was continually in need of repair..and then followed up with ANOTHER such creation...wouldn't be held in terribly high esteem.
2nd, if the "renowned architect" had in fact put the gate in the wrong place, people may or may not say something about it, but they would still see the flaw, and the flaw would actually exist. If the architect is so fixated on a particular layout for his creation that he gives short shrift to the practical aspects, then he is not much of an architect, and is merely an unschooled dreamer.
To summarize: Sony decide to place priority on Kutaragi's case size specifications, rather than the functional aspects of the unit. Brilliant.
What other short-cuts do you think we will hear about in the future?
Sony sure is arrogant about their place in the gaming food chain. Shit like this opens up the door for Nintendo. I wonder how well the PSP is going to compete anyway against the SP and DS considering their price points. If this ends up being a permanent flaw with the PSP, tht may stop me from ever buying one. I have been morphing into a Nintendo fanboy anyway, what with the lack of PS2 titles that I have been interested in lately.
Im just saying, Sony needs to read up on the history of the video gaming industry and understand that their place at the top is not a guaranteed given. If they dont get over themselves and start devoting themselves to creating the best product available, Microsoft and Nintendo are going to puch them out of first place.
Chris
well im thinking what system that comes from sony has worked when it first came out....not psx...not ps2 (still having to deal with the lazer) and i knew that the psp would come out as a pos the first time....with sony they like to beta test there stuff at launch.
just learn and not by them from the start...wait like a year then get it...i learned my lesson twice now.
Off topic, but reading that makes me wonder if Sony made the PS2 the way it is on purpose. You know, with a fairly high probability of the system fucking up down the road. When the warrenty is done with do people just buy another PS2? Especially one of those slick slim ones? Hmmm
Anyways, I'm just thinking out loud so to speak.
personally, I would rather have a somewhat smaller screen and responsive buttons than the other way around. I believe 99% of gamers out there would agree.
The guy sure has a lot of balls. Basically his response is "deal with it!" What he is forgetting is that most of us don't have to deal with it because we haven't bought one yet.
my ps2 has gone to hell. I even left the lens cleaning cd in the system for 20 mikns stright and it still wont read.Originally Posted by mr_nihilism
But does something like this really suprise anyone? The PS2 wasn't made very well, and now the PSP. I sort of have to agree with mr_nihilism maybe Sony is doing it on purpose to sell more consoles.
Or they just don't know how to make a product that last, at least in regards to video game electronics.
Yeah, I've known of this for awhile now.
I wanted to get a PSP at launch, but not now. I can't support Sony as much I used to back in 98. This is just horrible.
Who the hell says a flaw is a part of the specifications?
You think a car company could get away with a flaw in their braking sytems if they just said, "We wanted it like that."
This is ridiculous. And they'll get away with this, and with cash in their pockets.
ive had my ps2 since its release and its worked perfect, no problems whatsoever. i dont know why people are making a big deal out of this square button thing. most stores have a 30 day return policy, if the merchandise is defective, simply take it back and get a new one, and if the store doesnt offer that, buy it somewhere else.
Even if I go to hell, I will live to the end of this world. And if the world does not come to an end... I will destroy it with my own hands!
A buggy Sony console? I just don't believe it.
Because of Sony's attitude about it. KK should have come out and said "Our commitment is to the consumer who chooses to spend his or her money on Sony's products. We will address this problem in such a manner that the consumer gets a maximum value and level of enjoyment out of another great Sony product."Originally Posted by unbroken
Instead his attitude was "Bend over".
Do you not see or understand that?
Chris
What was the DS return rate for dead pixels? 0.6% isn't too bad for a new console, I would guess. I'm sure they will refine the design with time. In the meantime, don't use the square button, I guess.
And those are out of context quotes. Who knows what they refer to and under what context they were stated.
is it really that big of a problem, or are we just hearing the select few horror stories
i would assume that you are gonna remember a lot of the breaking stories than the my system is great stories
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