New article on CNET.com
http://news.com.com/Video+games--a+g...?tag=nefd.lede
Video Games -- A Girl Thing?
New article on CNET.com
http://news.com.com/Video+games--a+g...?tag=nefd.lede
nice article. Btw, it does feel kinda feminist article too.
Feminism, equality..blah blah blah
Hmmm 10% of attendees are women and suddenly gaming is a girl thing? Why won't a female play a male Character? Ladies, any answers? Interesting article, but it didn't really say anything.
For pretty much the same reason a male won't play a female character most of the time...identification purposes most likely.Originally Posted by crazyjackcsa
However, I'm sure most of us that are really into gaming would just pick whichever character is the best.
Feminism, equality..blah blah blah
Kristine
Why do you mean, "Why won't a female play a male Character?"
It wasn't all that long ago that if girls wanted to play games, all of characters were male, so we didn't have a choice. Even now, at least half of the playable female characters in games look like porn stars.
If there's choice, I pick a female character every time.For pretty much the same reason a male won't play a female character most of the time...identification purposes most likely.
same here, well, not every time, but often
if women want equality they should start using male characters without complaining, sure, there should be a 50/50 ratio of male and female characters used but women shouldn't always complain when they have to play male chars, men also do have to play female chars, or is there any man in here who wants to miss out on games like Space Channel 5, Beyond Good & Evil, Kya, Primal and a lot others... i guess not
-Jan
10%, or 1,000 women attending out of 10,000 attendants, that's not bad at all. It may not seem like a big number, but it's better than it seems at first.
Oh, and yes, I do play male characters when I don't have the choice or when the class of the female characters doesn't interest me (in RPGs, I like to play warriors rather than mages or archers... and women characters are often either sorceresses or archers - see Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance as an example of this gender-based class selection).
And that's one of the elements I absolutely love about Neverwinter Nights. You have complete choice for your character. The choice of class is the same regardless of gender, you have different available portraits, clothing styles, faces, races... and even physical types. That's much better than the usual Barbie/porn-star selection offered to us women gamers.
oh NO! And exactly what percentage do you think THAT is out of the total number of games released every year? Poor, poor oppressed guys. Give me a break, you're not going to get sympathy for that handful of games.same here, well, not every time, but often
if women want equality they should start using male characters without complaining, sure, there should be a 50/50 ratio of male and female characters used but women shouldn't always complain when they have to play male chars, men also do have to play female chars, or is there any man in here who wants to miss out on games like Space Channel 5, Beyond Good & Evil, Kya, Primal and a lot others... i guess not
Some of you guys are missing the point. She was saying that female characters are too often designed with men in mind, so even when there is a choice, women are not likely to gravitate towards the female hero. In real life, these qualities are the physical signs that a women is ready for sex. For example, Ninja Gaiden's Rachel is the equivalent of a Ryu design with a massive erection. There are some characters that don't follow that convention, but a great many, if not most, do. I thought the article made some great points, and it had nothing to do wth feminism. Whenever women attempt to address issues concerning women, there's always a group of men who start bitching about feminism as if they ever bothered to learn the slightest fact about it. The article was a practical and pragmatic examination of how companies can better market their games towards females.
Oh we will. Aftar all we've been playing male leads for 20 years, it's about time someone switched it up a bit though. :P
I play mainly console type RPGs, so for the most part I don't get a choice in the gender of my characters. In truth though, it doesn't really matter to me because I tend to pick characters based on their initial stats and whether or not I like the character design; acctually when given the choice, I'll choose non-human characters because I think they look more interesting. I really have never been one to think of myself as the main character. I will say, though, that when a game I'm playing has female characters, friend or foe, that look like hyper-porn stars, (unless it's played as a joke) it really bugs me, but again, I think that's mainly due to the fact that, to me, they don't look like they could do what thier supposed to be doing. I don't know, maybe high-heels and a mini bikini are keys to excellent swordsmanship.
did you actually read my post? i said there should be far more female characters and i'd love that (and no, not because they are pretty or anything like that) i just said there is absolutely no reason to complain every time you have to play with an character of the opposite sexn all honesty, does it even matter? i don't give a shit what sex my char is, i wouldn't mind if 90% of the heros where heroines, that's what you have to realize, yes, there should be more female chars, but no, it doesn't make a game more or less fun if the hero is of a different sex, it doesn't even matter in the big majority of the games. maybe the only reason there are more male heroes is the fact that they have easier 3D models? i guess not, but still, it makes no difference to the game which sex the char has (unless it's part of the game!) so why complain about it every time.. i can understand you want more female chars, and i'd like the industry to do that, but i can't understand if you think "damn, why does it have to be a male hero again" every time you boot up a new gameoh NO! And exactly what percentage do you think THAT is out of the total number of games released every year? Poor, poor oppressed guys. Give me a break, you're not going to get sympathy for that handful of games.same here, well, not every time, but often
if women want equality they should start using male characters without complaining, sure, there should be a 50/50 ratio of male and female characters used but women shouldn't always complain when they have to play male chars, men also do have to play female chars, or is there any man in here who wants to miss out on games like Space Channel 5, Beyond Good & Evil, Kya, Primal and a lot others... i guess not
ever noticed the majority of magazine covers are female? well, ever seen a guy complaining? no...
-Jan
hydr0x, did you actually read the article? It seems that in general, women would rather play using a (non-porn-star) female avatar. The article is about attracting a larger female playerbase.
So what's the point about lecturing the female gamers in here that they ought to suck it up and play men characters? Oh, wait. They've already been doing that for years now.
It's like hearing that a study was done saying there aren't very many women beer drinkers because many women don't like the taste of beer. Then you post on a beer-drinker's board that, yes, beer should taste better, but you think that the (beer-drinking) women reading your post should just (keep) drink(ing) beer anyway.
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Good article... The character generator in Star Wars Galaxies wasn't a victory for only women though. It was a victory for anybody who wanted an attention deficit disorder level of control over their character.
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I have a little sister about 16. she loves games wether they be male or female leads. after all its not about the characters these days as much as the story right?? I dont even play as many games that you see characters in. galaga was an all time favorite and who knows what could have been int he ship right?? No need to be offended by this but dont women normally have more avid social lives than men??? I know ythat when im playing a tournament of XIII at home i dont invite my sister, because then i have to hush my freinds behaviour and language, and lets face it If it werent for admins id be just as crass on these boards. But back tot he topic, until just recently women have not shown much interest in gaming until just recently, or they have not expressed it. All im saying is I have no problem playing a female character as it is just a game, not an expression of your personal sexuality.
I've always wanted to play Helga in the non-existant Oblong's game myself:
Let's face it, most American woman look like toads, we should let them play them in video games.
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Hmm, as I've posted in another thread last week, actually, Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man and Centipede attracted their share of girls in the arcade back in the day, so it's not like overnight there was this new breed of humans called the girl gamer.
And as was pointed out before in this thread, the question is not whether there should be more female characters in games, but rather whether there should be a better variety of them. Y'know, more Samus Aran, and less sex kitten-ish characters (y'know the type: huge floating devices passing for breasts, very revealing clothes, not the practical stuff that a true kick-ass female character would wear if she were out to hack and slash her way...).
ok so youre saying you want more realistic women in games. so then should guys in games be less fake?????? i forgot all us guys on here were gigantic muscle mases with secret powers and the ability to seduce any woman?? it will never be realistic, but thats half the fun, to be someone your not. videogames are an escape from reality, not an extension of it.
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