No more Dual Shock controllers?

[PrototypeFC3S]

I may be wrong, but this is REALLY old news. That company has been after Sony and their controllers for a LONG time. I remember reading about this about a year ago. If anything, this artical seems to be left in the cold.:/

And IIRC, Sony already forked over a bunch of money to them for this problem.

[Mayhem]

Um, no? The second analog stick is useless on the GC for FPS. The size difference is irratating. Never had a problem with the PS2 controller for any games. The four shoulder buttons allow for more control than any of the competion the d-pad simply rocks for 2-D stuff.

Guess we have a difference of opinion here

I'd like to see you take me on at Timesplitters 2 for Cube now heh... utter mastery of the C stick on my part. Sure I'll say it isn't perfect, but get on with it far, far better than using the other analog on dual shock for it, far too loose and inaccurate.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

Oh my god.... so what will become of Everybody Loves Katamari Damacy? Does this basically say that they just cant use the rumbling features, or the idea of the two analog sticks?

Oh god, please let this be BS...I'll seriously go insane if Katamari 2 gets cancelled because of this lawsuit crap. And no more ape escape as well? Stupid world we live in.

No, it will be made in Japan, so I'll just have to mod my PS2... or something...

[pineapplehead2]

im a bit confussed, are they after the rumble pak inside or the analog controller?

[slip81]

It sucks for us games who liked the Dual Shock, and because of that fact that certain games won't be available anymore, but part of me is glad Sony got bit in the ass.

I find it hard to believe that both Nintendo and MS knew about the patent and did something to avoid legal issues and Sony didn't. It seems more likely that Sony just tried to get away with using a patented design/feature and not paying for it.

[GarrettCRW]

Which games?

[Leo_A]

It isn't true, so don't worry about it.

[GarrettCRW]

So you're saying that this is another BS thread?

Does anyone have The Boss' number? I need to recommend some more wrathful vengeance from our Fearless Leader.

[Leo_A]

I'm not 100% sure, but if its true, you'd of seen it at some other places. That would be huge news if it was.

[Sosage]

What games are those? Will those maybe collectable?

via Slashdot, legit?

ORDER ENTERING PERMANENT INJUNCTION AND GRANTING DEFENDANTS' MOTION TO STAY INJUNCTION PENDING APPEAL

For the reasons set forth in its January 10, 2005 Order, and having entered judgment in favor of Plaintiff Immersion Corp. (Immersion), the Court hereby PERMANENTLY ENJOINS Defendants Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc., (SCEA) and Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc., (SCEI) (collectively Sony) from manufacturing, using, and/or selling in, or importing into, the United States the infringing Sony Playstation system, including its Playstation consoles, Dualshock controllers, and those games found by the jury to infringe. [FN1: The jury found that the following games, in conjunction with the Playstation consoles and Dualshock controllers, infringed either the '213 patent, the '333 patent or both patents: A Bug's Life; Amplitude; Ape Escape; Atlantis: The Lost Empire; Bloody Roar 2; Cool Boarders 3; Cool Boarders 4; Cool Boarders 2001; Crash Bash; Crash Team Racing; Drakan: The Ancients' Gate; Emperor's New Groove; Extermination; FantaVision; Final Fantasy X; Formula One 2001; The Getaway; Gran Turismo; Gran Turismo 2; Gran Turismo 3; Grand Theft Auto: Vice City; Grand Theft Auto 3; Grind Session; ICO; Jak & Daxter; Kinetica; Kingdom Hearts; Legend of the Dragoon; The Mark of Kri; Medal of Honor Frontline; Medievil 2; Metal Gear Solid 2; Monster's, Inc.; Sly Cooper and the Thievius Racoonus; SOCOM Navy Seals; Speed Punks; Spyro: Ripto's Rage; Spyro: Year of the Dragon; Stuart Little 2; Syphon Filter 2; Syphon Filter 3; Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3; Twisted Metal: Black; Twisted Metal 4; Twisted Metal: Small Brawl; Treasure Planet; and War of the Monsters.] As described in the January 10 Order, no recall is required of products already sold, but Sony will pay a license fee on all products already placed in the stream of co

[SoulBlazer]

Looks like your post gpt cut off.

And notice how it says at the top:

GRANTING DEFENDANTS' MOTION TO STAY INJUNCTION PENDING APPEAL

That means until the appeal is heard all these games and the PS2 and the controllers can STILL be sold. And that appeal could take MONTHS for it to be heard. In the meantime, I'm sure Sony will reach a deal with the company to settle this.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

It isn't true, so don't worry about it.

Wow, that is really convincing.

[Snapple]

I, hate, vibration controllers. Good riddance.

This "gimmick" hasn't been innovative or even fun since the very first vibration-supported game, Starfox 64. That was the only game where I ever enjoyed the vibration. Now I always just turn it off.


If the problem is with the dual analog part, THEN I have a problem. The PS2 controller is fantastic, and I'll be damned if someone takes it from me.

[bargora]

I, hate, vibration controllers. Good riddance.

This "gimmick" hasn't been innovative or even fun since the very first vibration-supported game, Starfox 64. That was the only game where I ever enjoyed the vibration. Now I always just turn it off.


If the problem is with the dual analog part, THEN I have a problem. The PS2 controller is fantastic, and I'll be damned if someone takes it from me.

Thank you for posting. Your IP has been logged and your spineless ISP is currently coughing up your address. And blood, too, as Sothy Squad has just ripped out its spine. Do not panic. Sothy Squad will be en route shortly to seize your illegal PS2 controller(s).

[Snapple]

You'll never take me alive! I'll succeed from the union!

[smork]

Even more legit, it's on Business Week:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...=apn_tech_down

Since it's under appeal I'm sure there'll be a settlement somewhere. Sony's not going to risk losing one of their core businesses on appeal.

[JJNova]

Don't I feel Stupid.

"According to Japan Today, the U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7 million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over controllers used with PlayStation game consoles. In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock controllers as well as more than 40 game software products."

[Jasoco]

I never liked that controller either. I hope this means maybe they'll redo the PS3 controllers to fit peoples hands better. The PS2/PSX controllers were never designed to have the sticks. They work fine until I need to reach the damn stick(s).

The Xbox Big controller will always be king in my book.

[Xantan the Foul]

Does this mean I should stock up on controllers now?

[Leo_A]

Looks like all the sites I depend on for information were off for Easter.

Guess it was true. But I'm sure it will never happen, Sony will either win or cut a deal with them (Which is what this company wants I bet).