Messiah Delays Gen NEX deliveries again!

[Griking]

What's a Gen nex?

The NEX is a Famicom and NES clone, similar to the Neofami. It gets allot of hype around here because some of the people with vested interest in the NEX post in these forums. There is also a bit of controversy with regards to some of the claims made about the system's possible use of a NES-on-a-chip, the system's compatibility with games and peripherials, as well as the accuracy of the audio and video of the system compared to a real NES and Famicom.

In short, the NEX could be the best thing to happen to NES gaming in a long time, or it could be a big let down. We should know fairly soon.

So how is this any better or worse than all of the other NES clones that are being sold on eBay?

[Ulticron]

I should get mine close to my Bday then.

joshnickerson wrote:

Glad I didn't pre-order one now.

Hopefully I'll be able to get you on the jealous bandwagon by the end of November.

I've been dying to play that Famicom Bonk game!

[Jagasian]

So how is this any better or worse than all of the other NES clones that are being sold on eBay?

There are three technical aspects of the NEX which we already know are better than the clones on eBay:

1. built-in NES and Famicom cart slots
2. NES-style controller ports positioned in the standard NES configuration
3. built-in wireless for Messiah-only controllers

The clones on ebay either have a NES cart slot or Famicom cart slot, but not both. Of course, this limitation is easily overcome with a simple cart adapter. Similarly, the clones on ebay either have "pirate-style" controller ports, or they have NES-style controllers ports, but the NES-style ports are not positioned side-by-side in the same way as on a real NES or AV-Famicom. This means that any peripherial that needs to simultaneously plug into both controller ports requires the use of two NES extension cords in order to work with the ebay clones. AFAIK, the only peripherials that this applies to are some wireless adapters and 4-player adapters for the NES.

The NEX also has receivers built-in for use with Messiah's wireless NES controllers. The advantage of this over the clones on ebay is very minor, as you get a wireless receiver that plugs into the controller port of the NES when you buy a wireless controller from Messiah. So it is hard to see what the advantage is to including a wireless receiver inside the NES. It doesn't save you any money because the NEX only comes with a wired controller, but I guess it might save a little bit of clutter, as you can keep the wireless receiver in storage. The problem is that the built in wireless most likely does not work with 4-player NES games, so if you play a 4-player game, you will still need to use 4 receivers at the same time plugged into the NES four-score (NES multi-tap). Hopefully the NEX includes the ability to disable the built-in wireless, as if it doesn't, then it might even be impossible to play a 4-player game with wireless controllers for everybody as the built-in wireless would override the multi-tap plugged into the NES controller ports, preventing the 3rd and 4th wireless controller from communicating with the NEX. So far we have no details on how the built-in wireless works.

Obviously these are minor details, with the exception of possible incompatibilities with 4-player gaming.

The bigger question is what NES-on-a-chip the NEX uses. This will determine how compatible and accurate the NEX is compared to a real NES. There are a small handful of NES-on-a-chips out there. Some are better than others for certain things, i.e. some have better colors or video, while others have better sound. None of them come close to a real NES, and all seem to have game compatibility problems. Messiah has been less than forthcoming about this aspect of their system, and some of the people here that have a vested interest in Messiah or the NEX have been hostile towards anybody that brings up this point. Hence the controversy.

[s1lence]

Once again a NEX thread is doing this

[Jagasian]

Once again a NEX thread is doing this

Hey, I am never going to let the people that gave me crap for pointing out this issue hear the end of it. It is pathetic to see people with a vested interest in Messiah or the NEX act in such a blatantly unethical manner. So if you also feel the need to carry out personal attacks against a whistleblower, then so be it.

Not everybody has read the previous threads, so if somebody asks about what the NEX is and how it compares to other clones, and I respond with answers, don't knock me for it. I am not going to let this stuff get swept under the rug, and I am not going to sit by and watch an astro-turf campaign.

[s1lence]

Once again a NEX thread is doing this

Not everybody has read the previous threads, so if somebody asks about what the NEX is and how it compares to other clones, and I respond with answers, don't knock me for it.

I'm not trying to attack you , just for your information. I guess I wish that some of the people that posted "What is the NEX" would use the search feature.

[DreamTR]

Jagasian, controversy? The list is just not a matter of public knowledge yet, that's all. The reason for this? YES the system was completed awhile ago, but for example, one of my games would not work on the NEX, but it worked on later versions of the NEX. SO we had to keep cancelling out the incompatibility issues of the system. It's down to a point where there is a small number of questionable games, but why post them right now if we are still not sure if they are incompatible or not? We are trying to make sure we have an absolute certainty about something before we talk about it, and we are still not 100% sure on a few select titles. You have to take into consideration testing EVERY NES game takes time, and it's not as simple as plugging the cart in and checking out the title screen. Some will work for awhile, then have a grpahical collision later on, so you really need to be aware of the differences.

Wireless info, you can turn the wireless capability ON/OFF with a switch on the side, and you CAN have 4 player wireless but you DO need to use the receivers for that aspect, unfortunately.

[The Collector]

but why post them right now if we are still not sure if they are incompatible or not? We are trying to make sure we have an absolute certainty about something before we talk about it, and we are still not 100% sure on a few select titles.

Well I'd like to know if my unit, since i had a very early pre-order and it should have been shipped out this past monday the 17th, is not truely the final product? If testing is still going on...what exactly are they sending me? Will mine include a list of games that are incompatasble with my unit? So the future units have less incompatible games because the hardeware is still being tested?

I'm not one the nay-sayers about this product, I just want a finished product....oh, and i'd kinda like it now!

~bill

[DreamTR]

Shipping at the end of the week, held up by Customs, but they are in Los Angeles. Incompatibility list will be posted on the playmessiah.com....

[The Collector]

Customs? Where are they being manufactured? Arent these made in the Good Ole U.S. of A.?? :/

[DreamTR]

They are being manufactured in China...

[calthaer]

Customs? Where are they being manufactured? Arent these made in the Good Ole U.S. of A.?? :/

Nothing is made in the USA any more - everybody wants white collar jobs.

I'm going to wait for the initial hoo-ha to die down before I order mine...and am going to wait until whether I hear if it's a stinker or not.

[Tron 2.0]

I don't mind delay on it heck i haven't... had the chance to pay for one any ways.

[Jagasian]

I don't mind delay on it heck i haven't... had the chance to pay for one any ways.

Where did you get the pic of that girl in your sig from

[Tron 2.0]

I don't mind delay on it heck i haven't... had the chance to pay for one any ways.

Where did you get the pic of that girl in your sig from

From a friend over at neo-geo.com

[eggwolio]

Dear Generation NEX customer,

First of all, please accept our sincere apologies for the delay of the
Generation NEX system. The delays have truly been due to circumstances
which were beyond our control.

We wanted to give you an updated status: the first Generation NEX shipment
left our overseas manufacturing site and arrived on Monday, October 17th in
the USA. We incurred several unpredictable delays due to U.S. customs
inspections and mis-information from the shipping provider. Throughout last
week, Messiah received assurances that the NEX systems were due to arrive on
one day, then the next, then the next, etc. Our company is doing everything
in our power to bring your product to you as soon as possible. The NEX
systems have finally cleared U.S. customs, and the first shipments to
customers have begun shipping TODAY from our warehouse in California. We
apologize for any inconvenience that these delays may have caused, and hope
that you are as excited as we are about the long awaited release of this
spectacular system! It has been a long and challenging road leading up to
the NEX product launch, but in a few more days, we are confident that you
will be thrilled with your Generation NEX system!

Please send any and all inquires to contactus@playmessiah.com

Happy Gaming,
The Messiah Team
www.playmessiah.com

YAY

[s1lence]

Got this in the email this morning.


MESSIAH ENTERTAINMENT
24907 AVENUE TIBBITTS STE B
STE B
SANTA CLARITA, CA 913553487

"SHIP TO" Contact Name.......: ******
Shipped Date.................: 10/24/2005
Estimated Delivery Date......: 10/28/2005
COD Payment Method...........:
COD Amount Due at delivery...: $.00
Service Level................:GND PPD RES
Package Weight...............: 3.00
Alternate Reference Numbers..:

CR MESSIAH 08 9612804412295110004630

Shipper Memo.................:


Sweet, looks like I'm going to be play testing this weekend.

[Kejoriv]

Everyone that receives one, needs to post pics and reviews.

[s1lence]

Everyone that receives one, needs to post pics and reviews.

I was planning on it.

[Jagasian]

People should start receiving their systems about now. So why are things so quiet?