I think you all make some valid points...why the arguing? You're both right in your own ways.
Anyway, it's very hard to judge with some systems who pushed the hardest with their game unless you are one of the programmers and knew the hell you had to go through to make it work. I personally think that it's easier to judge how far a system was pushed with less advanced systems. Anyone ever seen the three Marios demo for the Atari 2600?!
-Rob