Who has a complete US DS collection? User updated towards end of thread

[orrimarrko]

M&M's Break 'Em All was also at Music for a Song in Grove City, PA. So, it's not a Best Buy exclusive.

-frap

Ok - good to know!

[orrimarrko]

4/10-13 scheduled releases:

Toon-Doku

And it would appear that the following may be available at retail:

Battleship/Connect 4/Trouble/Sorry
Harlem Globetrotters World Tour DS

Still looking to confirm these at a major retailer...

Thanks,
Steve

[joedick]

I think I saw Harlem Globetrotters at EB yesterday, if that counts as a major retailer. I'll double check tomorrow.

[Vectorman0]

I don't understand why you want to confirm games at major retailers. Some games never go to major retailers.

[Capybara554321]

Battleship/Connect 4/Trouble/Sorry at circuit city

[orrimarrko]

I don't understand why you want to confirm games at major retailers. Some games never go to major retailers.

By "major retailer" I meant GameStop, Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, Wal-Mart (that type.)

Name one DS game that hasn't been released eventually at one of these stores.

The reason I posted that comment was because pre-ordering from Amazon.com isn't really a confirmation that it's been released.

Also, seeing it at a store that isn't widely available (Music for a Song) doesn't really help many people find it locally.

That's all I meant - but every DS game is/was available at these stores at one time or another.

[orrimarrko]

Battleship/Connect 4/Trouble/Sorry at circuit city

Nice - thanks.

I still don't understand why they felt the need to release another multi-pak game with Battleship on it. They should have used Risk!

[orrimarrko]

Here's my lists as of today, if anyone has something to correct or add - PLEASE LET ME KNOW!:

UPDATED: 4/11/07 5:20 pm

Regular Releases

2006 FIFA World Cup
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Age of Empires: The Age of Kings
Alex Rider: Stormbreaker
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Arthur & The Invisibles
Asphalt Urban GT
Asphalt Urban GT 2
ATV: Quad Frenzy
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Barbie In The 12 Dancing Princesses
Battles of Prince of Persia
Battleship/Connect 4/Trouble/Sorry (confirmed 4/10 at Circuit City)
Big Brain Academy
Big Mutha Truckers
Bionicle Heroes
Blades of Thunder 2
Bomberman
Bomberman Land Touch!
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!
Brain Boost: Beta Wave
Brain Boost: Gamma Wave
Bratz: Forever Diamondz
Break'Em All
Bubble Bobble Revolution
Burnout Legends
Bust-a-Move DS
Cake Mania (confirmed 4/4 at Best Buy)
Cartoon Network Racing
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Catz
Charlotte's Web
Children of Mana
Chronicles of Narnia, The: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe
Clubhouse Games
Contact
Cooking Mama
Crash Boom Bang!
Custom Robo Arena
Danny Phantom: Urban Jungle
Deep Labyrinth
Diddy Kong Racing DS
Dig Dug: Digging Strike
Digimon World DS
Dino Master: Dig, Discover, Duel
Disney's American Dragon: Jake Long Attack of the Dark Dragon
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action
Disney's Herbie's Rescue Rally
Disney's Kim Possible: Global Gemini
Disney's Kim Possible: Kimmunicator
Disney's Little Mermaid, The: Ariel's Undersea Adventure
Disney's Meet the Robinsons
Disney's That's So Raven: Psychic on the Scene
Disney/Pixar's Cars
Disney/Pixar's Finding Nemo: Escape to the Big Blue
Disney/Pixar's The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer
Dogz
Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2
Dragon Booster
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
Dreamworks' Flushed Away
Electroplankton
Elf Bowling 1 & 2
Elite Beat Agents
Eragon
F24 Stealth Fighter
Feel the Magic: XY/XX
FIFA 06
FIFA Soccer 07
FIFA Street 2
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (confirmed 4/05 at Target)
Ford Racing 3
Fossil League: Dino Tournament Championship
Franklin's Great Adventures
Freedom Wings
Frogger: Helmet Chaos
FullMetal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy
Garfield: Tail of Two Kitties
Golden Nugget Casino DS
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent
Greg Hastings' Tournament Paintball Max'd
Guilty Gear Dust Strikers
Gunpey DS
Hamsterz Life
Hannah Montana
Happy Feet
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harvest Moon DS
Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi: The Genie and the Amp
Honeycomb Beat (confirmed 4/05 at Frys)
Horsez
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Ice Age 2: The Meltdown
Inuyasha: Secret of the Divine Jewel
Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja
Justice League Heroes
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Kirby: Squeak Squad
Konami Classics: Arcade Hits
Konductra
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend
Legend of Spyro, The: A New Beginning
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Lionel Trains: On Track
Lost in Blue
Lost in Blue 2
LostMagic
Lunar Knights: Vampire Hunters
Lunar: Dragon Song
M&M's Break 'Em (confirmed 4/02 at Best Buy)
Madagascar
Madagascar/Shrek SuperSlam (2-pack)
Madden NFL 06
Madden NFL 07
Madden NFL 2005
Mage Knight: Destiny's Soldier
Magical Starsign
Magnetica
Major League Baseball 2K7
March of the Penguins
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Mario Hoops 3-on-3
Mario Kart DS
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects
Mech Assault: Phantom War
Mega Man Battle Network 5: Double Team
Mega Man ZX
Meteos
Meteos: Disney Magic
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Micro Machines V4
Mind Quiz: Your Brain Coach
Mini RC Rally: The World's Smallest Car Championship
Miss Spider: Harvest Time Hop and Fly
Monopoly/Boggle/Yahtzee/Battleship
Monster Bomber
Monster House
Monster Trucks DS
Mr. Driller: Drill Spirits
My Frogger Toy Trials
Nacho Libre
Nanostray
Need for Speed: Carbon
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Need for Speed: Underground 2
New Super Mario Bros.
Nicktoons Unite!
Nicktoons: Battle for Volcano Island
Nintendogs - Best Friends Edition
Nintendogs - Chihuahua & Friends
Nintendogs - Dachshund & Friends
Nintendogs - Dalmatian & Friends
Nintendogs - Labrador & Friends
Open Season
Over the Hedge
Over the Hedge: Hammy Goes Nuts
Pac 'N Roll
Pac-Man World 3
Pac-Pix
Paws & Claws: Pet Vet
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All
Ping Pals
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Pogo Island
Point Blank DS
Pokémon Dash
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team
Pokémon Ranger
Pokémon Trozei
Polarium
Princess Natasha: Student - Secret Agent - Princess
Purr Pals
Puyo Pop Fever
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
QuickSpot
Rainbow Islands Revolution
Rayman DS
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Real-Time Conflict: Shogun Empires
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence
Retro Atari Classics
Ridge Racer DS
Robots
Rub Rabbits!, The
SBK: Snowboard Kids DS
Scooby-Doo! Unmasked
Scooby-Doo! Who's Watching Who?
Scurge: Hive
Seaworld Adventure Parks: Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures
Sega Casino
Shrek Smash N' Crash Racing
Shrek SuperSlam
Sims 2, The
Sims 2, The: Pets
Snood 2: On Vacation
Sonic Rush
Space Invaders Revolution
Spectrobes
Spider-Man 2 DS
Spider-Man: Battle for New York
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
SpongeBob SquarePants: The Yellow Avenger
Sprung
Spyro: Shadow Legacy
Star Fox Command
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Lethal Alliance
Steel Horizon
Strawberry Shortcake: Strawberryland Games
Sudoku Gridmaster
Sudoku Mania
Suite Life of Zack & Cody, The: Tipton Trouble
Super Black Bass Fishing
Super Mario 64 DS
Super Monkey Ball: Touch & Roll
Super Princess Peach
Superman Returns: The Videogame
Tak 3: The Great Juju Challenge
Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop
Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 2
Tao's Adventure: Curse of the Demon Seal
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare
Tetris DS
Texas Hold 'Em Poker
Texas Hold 'Em Poker Pack
Theme Park
Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf 2005
TMNT
Tom and Jerry Tales
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Tony Hawk's American Sk8land
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Top Gun
Top Spin 2
Totally Spies! 2 Undercover
Touch Detective
Trace Memory
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Trioncube
True Swing Golf
Ultimate Spider-Man
Underground Pool
Uno/Skip-Bo/Uno Freefall
Uno 52
Urbz, The: Sims in the City
Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble
Wario: Master of Disguise
WarioWare: Touched!
Whac-A-Mole
Wiffle Ball
Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer 2007
Winx Club: Quest for the Codex
World Championship Poker: Deluxe Series
Worms: Open Warfare
X-Men: The Official Game
Xiaolin Showdown
Yoshi Touch & Go
Yoshi's Island DS
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Spirit Caller
Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour
Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship 2007
Zoo Keeper
Zoo Tycoon DS

Konami's Best

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow

Special Editions

March of the Penguins (w/plush toy)
Princess Natasha: Student - Secret Agent - Princess (w/plush toy & book)
Uno/Skip-Bo/Free Fall (w/Mini Uno cards pack)
Wiffle Ball (w/Wiffle Ball bat & ball)
(I'm sure there are some I don't have here - please fill in!)

Exclusives

Tenchu: Dark Secret (Gamestop exclusive)

Pack-ins

Animal Crossing (pack-in w/system)
Mario Kart DS (pack-in w/system)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (pack-in w/system)
Nintendogs: Best Friends (pack-in w/system)
Super Mario 64 DS (pack-in w/system)

Demos

DS Download Station Volume 1
DS Download Station Volume 2
DS Download Station Volume 3
DS Download Station Volume 4
Legend of Zelda, The: Twilight Princess (E3 demo)
Nintendogs: Download/Relay version

Not for Resale Demos

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Big Brain Academy
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!
Children of Mana (also on case)
Diddy Kong Racing DS
Elite Beat Agents
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Kirby: Squeak Squad
Meteos
Metroid Prime: Hunters
New Super Mario Bros.
Nintendogs
Pac-Pix
Polarium
Super Mario 64 DS
Tenchu: Dark Sercet
Tetris DS
Wario: Master of Disguise
Yoshi Touch & Go
Yoshi's Island DS
(I'm sure there are some I don't have here - please fill in!)

Pre-order Bonus Items (Styli, etc)

Kirby: Canvas Curse stylus (available via web-link from Nintendo)
Lost in Blue 2 stylus (pre-order)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney stylus (pre-order from Gamestop)
Phoenix Wright: Justice for All stylus (pre-order)
Pokemon Diamond stylus (pre-order)
Pokemon Pearl stylus (pre-order)
Spectrobes stylus (pre-order from Gamestop)
Spectrobes lanyard w/exclusive Windora card (pre-order from Gamestop)
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin 25th Anniversary Pack (pre-order)
(I'm sure there are some I don't have here - please fill in!)

Supposed to have been released

B-17 Flying Fortress / Silent Running
Rafa Nadal Tennis

Announced

7 Wonders
Animaniacs: Lights, Camera, Action
Cameltry
Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol
Clue/Mouse Trap/Perfection/Aggrevation
Code Lyoko
Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom
Devilish
Diner Dash
Disney's Lizzie McGuire
Disney's Lizzie McGuire & That's So Raven
DK King of Swing DS
Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Densetsu
DS Air
Dynasty Warriors DS
Etrian Odyssey
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
Go Pets: Vacation Island
Harlem Globetrotters World Tour DS
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
High School Musical
Jam Session
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights
Legend of Zelda, The: Phantom Hourglass
LifeSigns: Hospital Affairs
Luxor 2
Madden NFL 08
Marvel Trading Card Game
Mortal Kombat
My Sims
Panzer Tactics DS
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End
Pony Friends
Pokémon Diamond
Pokémon Pearl
Prism
Puzzle de Harvest Moon (Tentative Title)
Ratatouille
Settlers, The (Gamestop exclusive) (moved to 5/22)
Shrek the 3rd
Shonen Jump: Naruto Ninja Council 3
Sim City DS
SNK vs Capcom: Card Fighters Clash
Spider-Man 3
Spy Vs Spy: M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction)
Sudokuro: Sudoku and Karuko Games
Super Collapse 3
Super Pac-Man Pinball
Time Ace
Touch the Dead
Toon-Doku
Top Gear: Downforce
Touchmaster
Transformers: Autobots
Transformers: Decepticons
Ultimate Brain Games
Ultimate Card Games
Zendoku

Thanks for your time everyone!

Steve

[Vectorman0]

By "major retailer" I meant GameStop, Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, Wal-Mart (that type.)

I know, that's why I was asking.

Name one DS game that hasn't been released eventually at one of these stores.

The reason I posted that comment was because pre-ordering from Amazon.com isn't really a confirmation that it's been released.

Also, seeing it at a store that isn't widely available (Music for a Song) doesn't really help many people find it locally.

That's all I meant - but every DS game is/was available at these stores at one time or another.

I haven't payed enough attention to DS collecting to know of any, but even if there hasn't been one, I bet there will be some. And it's not like every store of every chain gets every release. Like the summitsoft games, I know some FYE's got them, and some didn't seem to. As long as more than one person has a game, it's safe to say it exists and should go on the collection list.

Also, I disagree with this Canada exlusive nonsense that Drexel believes the Franklin DS w/ Plushie bundle is. Besides french language packaging variations/additions, I can't think of one game canada got that the US didn't. This one is just rarer that the rest. I have seen GBA franklin ones around here, so I'm sure there have been DS ones too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-NINTENDO-DS-...QQcmdZViewItem

[UndeadKing]

The game Wish Room that you have under announced is merely the name of the Japanese version of Hotel Dusk: Room 215.

[PapaStu]

The game Wish Room that you have under announced is merely the name of the Japanese version of Hotel Dusk: Room 215.

That game had been on the EB/GS website for a while and had just disapeared off of it about a week ago and its disapearance and lack of mention anywhere else had my scratching my head something fierce.

I'm still not seeing Cake Mania anywhere out here, nor could I find M&M's / Harlem Globetrotters. I guess that i'll just have to keep scouring the stores.

There have been DS games that havn't made it into the major chain food cycle outside of the 'smaller' chains like TRU (who is much more willing to take a risk on some of these DS games than EB/GS/BB/CC are). I've never seen Princess Natasha anywhere but a TRU and I know that theres some of those really early SummitSoft titles (that poker one and one other I can't think of off the top of my head) that were only ever seen at Fry's or at TRU. Hell you find me a place other than Meijers thats got Mini RC Rally and i'll buy it for you.

[Vectorman0]

That game had been on the EB/GS website for a while and had just disapeared off of it about a week ago and its disapearance and lack of mention anywhere else had my scratching my head something fierce.

I'm still not seeing Cake Mania anywhere out here, nor could I find M&M's / Harlem Globetrotters. I guess that i'll just have to keep scouring the stores.

There have been DS games that havn't made it into the major chain food cycle outside of the 'smaller' chains like TRU (who is much more willing to take a risk on some of these DS games than EB/GS/BB/CC are). I've never seen Princess Natasha anywhere but a TRU and I know that theres some of those really early SummitSoft titles (that poker one and one other I can't think of off the top of my head) that were only ever seen at Fry's or at TRU. Hell you find me a place other than Meijers thats got Mini RC Rally and i'll buy it for you.

Will you buy the 5 Mini RC Rally's I can get locally for $15 each for me?

[orrimarrko]

I haven't payed enough attention to DS collecting to know of any, but even if there hasn't been one, I bet there will be some. And it's not like every store of every chain gets every release. Like the summitsoft games, I know some FYE's got them, and some didn't seem to. As long as more than one person has a game, it's safe to say it exists and should go on the collection list.

Also, I disagree with this Canada exlusive nonsense that Drexel believes the Franklin DS w/ Plushie bundle is. Besides french language packaging variations/additions, I can't think of one game canada got that the US didn't. This one is just rarer that the rest. I have seen GBA franklin ones around here, so I'm sure there have been DS ones too.

Okay, here's a few tidbits that will help.

Every single DS game has been found at one time or another at any of the following stores: Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, TRU, Gamestop/EB Games or Frys.

If anyone can think of a single example, let me know.

My point was that stores that are local, not nationwide (like FYE, or Music for a Song) don't have the buying power to be the sole retailer of a DS game. To that point, even if all of the major retailers don't get that game - I guarantee that at least one of them will.

Franklin DS is not a rare game, and it's readily available here in the US. However, it was the packaging with the plush toy that was called into question.

Canada doesn't have anything on this game, its just the bundle with plush toy that was only seen on a Canadian re-seller website.

I think that some of your points don't really apply, since they aren't consistent with what we know. Then again, you did mention that you haven't paid enough attention to collecting DS...

Don't take offense.

Thanks,
Steve

[orrimarrko]

That game had been on the EB/GS website for a while and had just disapeared off of it about a week ago and its disapearance and lack of mention anywhere else had my scratching my head something fierce.

I have no problem eliminating an "Announced" game - no problem.

I'm still not seeing Cake Mania anywhere out here, nor could I find M&M's / Harlem Globetrotters. I guess that i'll just have to keep scouring the stores.

I bought my Cake Mania at Best Buy on the day it came out, but I've also seen it at Gamestop and Circuit City (as recently as today.)

M&M's Break 'Em All - I have only seen this at Best Buy (two separate locations.) I haven't seen them anywhere else.

There have been DS games that havn't made it into the major chain food cycle outside of the 'smaller' chains like TRU (who is much more willing to take a risk on some of these DS games than EB/GS/BB/CC are). I've never seen Princess Natasha anywhere but a TRU and I know that theres some of those really early SummitSoft titles (that poker one and one other I can't think of off the top of my head) that were only ever seen at Fry's or at TRU. Hell you find me a place other than Meijers thats got Mini RC Rally and i'll buy it for you.

True - I've only seen the Texas Hold 'Em Poker Pack at Frys, but that doesn't mean it wasn't available at other smaller retailers. In fact, I would count on it. Same with Blades of Thunder 2 (which I've seen new at Gamestop), and Mini RC Rally (which I've seen new at Wal-Mart.)

I wish I bought a copy of Mini RC at the time, because it's now gone, and haven't seen it since.

Even if you haven't seen Natasha anywhere but TRU, that's still a major retailer, and strengthens the arguement.

Anyway, I agree that some games will be more difficult to find at retail than others - there's only so much shelf space a store will be willing to give to a title from a smaller distributor.

Should be interesting in months to come...but I'm not an expert by any means.

[Vectorman0]

Okay, here's a few tidbits that will help.

Every single DS game has been found at one time or another at any of the following stores: Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, TRU, Gamestop/EB Games or Frys.

If anyone can think of a single example, let me know.

My point was that stores that are local, not nationwide (like FYE, or Music for a Song) don't have the buying power to be the sole retailer of a DS game. To that point, even if all of the major retailers don't get that game - I guarantee that at least one of them will.

Franklin DS is not a rare game, and it's readily available here in the US. However, it was the packaging with the plush toy that was called into question.

Canada doesn't have anything on this game, its just the bundle with plush toy that was only seen on a Canadian re-seller website.

I think that some of your points don't really apply, since they aren't consistent with what we know. Then again, you did mention that you haven't paid enough attention to collecting DS...

Don't take offense.

Thanks,
Steve

Alright. I never said that some DS games didn't go to major retailers, just that it shouldn't be assumed because there have been exceptions in the past. I don't understand why you want to confirm games at major retailers and how it would make the list any better. With this train of thought, a game that isn't seen at a major retailer "hasn't come out". You said there haven't been exceptions, and I don't doubt it. But even if it is the case now, the possibility exists that it will happen; it has for many other systems. I'm sorry, but if you can find a game at your local B&M shop, it has been released. Maintaining a games list and helping people find it locally, are two different things.


Also, it seems like you were taking a jab at me and just tried to soften it up with a smilie and a comment saying otherwise.

[PapaStu]

That game had been on the EB/GS website for a while and had just disapeared off of it about a week ago and its disapearance and lack of mention anywhere else had my scratching my head something fierce.

I have no problem eliminating an "Announced" game - no problem.

Oh no, thats not what I meant at all. I just had it listed on a personal list of games to pay attention for and I check on it every week or two as I edit dates, take off new purchases ect, and it had just disapeared off the EB/GS site and I couldn't find any info on it on Amazon or any other major retailer so it had me very curious as to what had happened with it.

[orrimarrko]

Alright. I never said that some DS games didn't go to major retailers, just that it shouldn't be assumed because there have been exceptions in the past.

First of all, I never assumed that it wouldn't happen. In fact, I believe I acknowledged in a previous post that it probably would someday. However, it hasn't happened yet, and part of wanting to confirm it at a major retailer is two-sided - if no one can find a game at a major retailer after a while, perhaps we'll have our first example. Did you ever look at the information that way? It helps in two ways.

I don't understand why you want to confirm games at major retailers and how it would make the list any better. With this train of thought, a game that isn't seen at a major retailer "hasn't come out".

I never said that the list was better off by wanting to confirm the new releases at major retailers. But in essence, it actually does.

Providing a list of titles without the information of where you can get them when the title is released is not a lot of information at all.

If by updating the list AND providing a location (that pretty much everyone has within a reasonable distance of where they live) that you can try to find one is bad, then I'm missing the point of this site that I've been a part of for the last 5 years. By no one being able to confirm a title at a major chain, we can all be more informed.

Listen, what is wrong with trying to be informative and helpful at the same time? If I just provided a game list, that's great. I don't need to do that - I've got my own spreadsheet.

I'm sorry, but if you can find a game at your local B&M shop, it has been released. Maintaining a games list and helping people find it locally, are two different things.

I understood your point - if the game is out, it's out, regardless of location.

I think you misunderstood mine. If the game is out, great. Now let's find it at a retailer that is accessible everywhere. Otherwise, the information is useless. Knowing a new game is available in a location that you can't get to does you no good. Doesn't deny the fact that it might be available, but it's called "cross validation." Billy in New York may be able to find it, but Joe in Texas can't. When they both can, it's safe to say that it's available nationwide.

That's the other reason why I ask to confirm at a "major" retailer.

Again, I'm doing this to help, since I DO collect for the DS.

Also, it seems like you were taking a jab at me and just tried to soften it up with a smilie and a comment saying otherwise.

I did take a little jab at you, for two reasons.

1. You asked a question, but then argued with my answer, without even asking why. You don't collect for the DS, nor do you seem to know enough about it to discuss it thoroughly. So what exactly were you offering by jumping into the fray here? Just looking to start something?

I welcome all suggestions and information - you offered neither.

I'm knowledgeable enough about video game collecting to acknowledge that there are games from small distribution companies that don't get picked up by mailer retailers. That was never my point.

2. I found it interesting that you decided to post a comment that had no bearing on DS collecting (which this thread clearly is about) - and then you admitted to knowing LITTLE about DS collecting.

Again, what was your point in getting involved in the discussion?

Sorry - I tried to lighten it up, but since you asked...

If people don't want help or new information - by all means, I can save myself the time and effort. It's certainly not for my own gratification.

[orrimarrko]

Oh no, thats not what I meant at all. I just had it listed on a personal list of games to pay attention for and I check on it every week or two as I edit dates, take off new purchases ect, and it had just disapeared off the EB/GS site and I couldn't find any info on it on Amazon or any other major retailer so it had me very curious as to what had happened with it.

No worries Stu - I didn't take it that way at all.

I would rather remove a title if it doesn't need to be on the announced list, so we don't waste time looking for it. If it was a tentative title, and the final title changed...

GONE!

[Vectorman0]

First of all, I never assumed that it wouldn't happen. In fact, I believe I acknowledged in a previous post that it probably would someday. However, it hasn't happened yet, and part of wanting to confirm it at a major retailer is two-sided - if no one can find a game at a major retailer after a while, perhaps we'll have our first example. Did you ever look at the information that way? It helps in two ways.



I never said that the list was better off by wanting to confirm the new releases at major retailers. But in essence, it actually does.

Providing a list of titles without the information of where you can get them when the title is released is not a lot of information at all.

If by updating the list AND providing a location (that pretty much everyone has within a reasonable distance of where they live) that you can try to find one is bad, then I'm missing the point of this site that I've been a part of for the last 5 years. By no one being able to confirm a title at a major chain, we can all be more informed.

Listen, what is wrong with trying to be informative and helpful at the same time? If I just provided a game list, that's great. I don't need to do that - I've got my own spreadsheet.





I understood your point - if the game is out, it's out, regardless of location.

I think you misunderstood mine. If the game is out, great. Now let's find it at a retailer that is accessible everywhere. Otherwise, the information is useless. Knowing a new game is available in a location that you can't get to does you no good. Doesn't deny the fact that it might be available, but it's called "cross validation." Billy in New York may be able to find it, but Joe in Texas can't. When they both can, it's safe to say that it's available nationwide.

That's the other reason why I ask to confirm at a "major" retailer.

Again, I'm doing this to help, since I DO collect for the DS.



I did take a little jab at you, for two reasons.

1. You asked a question, but then argued with my answer, without even asking why. You don't collect for the DS, nor do you seem to know enough about it to discuss it thoroughly. So what exactly were you offering by jumping into the fray here? Just looking to start something?

I welcome all suggestions and information - you offered neither.

I'm knowledgeable enough about video game collecting to acknowledge that there are games from small distribution companies that don't get picked up by mailer retailers. That was never my point.

2. I found it interesting that you decided to post a comment that had no bearing on DS collecting (which this thread clearly is about) - and then you admitted to knowing LITTLE about DS collecting.

Again, what was your point in getting involved in the discussion?

Sorry - I tried to lighten it up, but since you asked...

If people don't want help or new information - by all means, I can save myself the time and effort. It's certainly not for my own gratification.

To answer your question, I made my original comment because I was curious about why you weren't putting games on your "release list" until people said they had gotten them from a major retailer. It seemed odd to me that a few people would find a game and it wouldn't go on your list until later after someone found it at a major chain. Now that you made it clear to me after your most recent post, I understand that the list you have been maintaining is more a tool to help people find the more uncommon games as they are released. I wasn't trying to attack your list, as it is impressive and has clearly been appreciated by many here.

I was going to nit-pick your post above line by line, as I'm sore over a few comments you made and don't want to look like I gave in, but I won't because I really don't want to see this go on any longer; it isn't appropriate or necessary. This spat just arose out of some miscommunication and assumptions on both sides and it ends now.

I know more about DS collecting than you think, I'm not just some troll. I have paid attention to this topic from the begining.



Also, in regards to Franklin from a few posts back: I know the regular game is like every other DS one in distribution, I just thought the bundle should not be regarded as Canada only and deserved a spot on your list. Now I see it needs to be confirmed at a major retailer. This goes back to my original confusion over why it doesn't go on the list until then, if it indeed exists.

I might as well mention this here again, since I am on the topic of rare variants. I think I mentioned it months ago here, but haven't heard about it since. I saw a pokemon mystery dungeon blue rescue team at wal-mart packaged in a big yellow outer box, about the size of wario ware twisted, which said it contained a DVD of some kind. I'll admit because I don't have one it shouldn't go on your list, but I think people should keep their eyes out open for it because I doubt I imagined it.

[orrimarrko]

To answer your question, I made my original comment because I was curious about why you weren't putting games on your "release list" until people said they had gotten them from a major retailer. It seemed odd to me that a few people would find a game and it wouldn't go on your list until later after someone found it at a major chain. Now that you made it clear to me after your most recent post, I understand that the list you have been maintaining is more a tool to help people find the more uncommon games as they are released. I wasn't trying to attack your list, as it is impressive and has clearly been appreciated by many here.

I was going to nit-pick your post above line by line, as I'm sore over a few comments you made and don't want to look like I gave in, but I won't because I really don't want to see this go on any longer; it isn't appropriate or necessary. This spat just arose out of some miscommunication and assumptions on both sides and it ends now.

I know more about DS collecting than you think, I'm not just some troll. I have paid attention to this topic from the begining.



Also, in regards to Franklin from a few posts back: I know the regular game is like every other DS one in distribution, I just thought the bundle should not be regarded as Canada only and deserved a spot on your list. Now I see it needs to be confirmed at a major retailer. This goes back to my original confusion over why it doesn't go on the list until then, if it indeed exists.

I might as well mention this here again, since I am on the topic of rare variants. I think I mentioned it months ago here, but haven't heard about it since. I saw a pokemon mystery dungeon blue rescue team at wal-mart packaged in a big yellow outer box, about the size of wario ware twisted, which said it contained a DVD of some kind. I'll admit because I don't have one it shouldn't go on your list, but I think people should keep their eyes out open for it because I doubt I imagined it.

Hey there - sorry to sound sore, my intent is never to come here to argue.

I do that all day long, so doing it here takes the fun out of it.

My apologies for the back-and-forth.

Now, back to the fun. I didn't see your post about the Wal-Mart Pokemon, and although I'll certainly check, my Wal-Marts here kind of suck for video games.

Perhaps someone else may have better luck.

Thanks for the tip though, we should all keep our collective eyes open.

Peace,
Orri~