Complete U.S. Dreamcast set

[jcheatle]

I'm sure this was posted somewhere before, but I haven't been able to find it, so please don't be too pissed at me...

I just picked up a Dreamcast over Christmas and decided to start collecting the full set. Are the listed games in the rarity guide the full U.S. released list? Or can somebody point me toward a full list?

Also, how many Sega All-Star games were made? I know of a few, but I'm sure not all of them.

Thanks for any help, just figured it'd be easier to ask than to keep banging my head off the wall.

[keiblerfan69]

PDF file coming right up.

Edit:

Here you go:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OHI3F7GH

[jcheatle]

That's just about perfect. Thank you much.

[PapaStu]

Theres 249 official games (two of which are Limited Editions, Shenmue and Sonic Adventure) and 17 SAS games. Theres also a handful of NotForSale games (bundle pack-ins) and a few general variants.

[SEGA-SAMMY]

I would reccomend checking out www.dreamcasthistory.com. They have alot of good information too.

[tylerwillis]

Theres 249 official games (two of which are Limited Editions, Shenmue and Sonic Adventure) and 17 SAS games. Theres also a handful of NotForSale games (bundle pack-ins) and a few general variants.

Eh, the list that Sega themselves put out has 248.

http://www.digitpress.com/lists/

They don't count either LE, but do count Sega Swirl (ony available on Web Browser/DC Magazine discs).

[jcheatle]

Well, I just spent an hour plus some browsing Dreamcast History... good site.

I wasn't sure what to make of Sega Swirl either. Like you said, it looked like it was recognized as a singular game, but only available on compilation discs.

Anyway, thanks again for the replies. I'm only at about 20 games so I've got probably years to go, but at least I have a target now.

[Frankie23]

Hmmm. I guess Super Boom Tread Troopers doesn't count then? I thought it was a cute little game, and have always counted it as "real" myself, even though it was only available on the one demo disc.

[goatdan]

They don't count either LE, but do count Sega Swirl (ony available on Web Browser/DC Magazine discs).

The listing of Sega Swirl on that list is extremely strange. Sega Swirl was never, ever released as a standalone disk. It came on some demos as well as Web browsers and the Sega Smash Pack. Having said that, the list does not include the web browsers which there were two 'official looking' releases and one paper sleeve one, so having Sega Swirl by itself makes no sense.

I'd personally suggest looking up everything on Dreamcast History as someone else mentioned ( http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/ ) because they seperate into the label variations (there is also the Hot! New! business if you're going psycho looking to complete the set... like me), all the third party stuff like bleem! and the GOAT Store releases and all the Not For Resale games.

Good luck! It's a great set of games to be collecting!

[McBacon]

Also, if you're into this sorta thing, 24 PAL only releases.

http://www.pelikonepeijoonit.net/art.../uniques2.html

[Canadianzombie]

Here's the Dreamcasthistory link to the list:
http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/cgi-...ownloads/Other
Cheers
Mark

[Austin]

Anyway, thanks again for the replies. I'm only at about 20 games so I've got probably years to go, but at least I have a target now.

You'll actually be surprised how quickly you can put together a collection. With the exception of just a few games (Sonic Adventure LE comes to mind) most dreamcast games are readily available and pretty cheap.

It's a good system to collect for, though! Good luck with it. And send me a message sometime if you ever want to trade.

[Griking]

Are the Sega All Stars versions really required for a complete DC collection if you have the standard release of the game?

[ahamilton0953]

is that broswer disk worth anything? I think i have a 2.0 version sealed sitting at home ( which I obviously have no use for )

[goatdan]

Are the Sega All Stars versions really required for a complete DC collection if you have the standard release of the game?

What's a complete collection in your opinion? If you feel that they are, then they are. To me, they and the Not For Resale games are required for the whole thing. So are all of the third party stuff (GOAT releases, bleem!cast, GameShark, etc) and the Web Browsers and Official Dreamcast Magazine demos. I would argue that Sonic LE probably isn't needed as it never saw a wide release (it's like the Star Fox Competition Cart for the SNES in my opinion).

Your mileage may vary.

[GrandAmChandler]

Anything that was a U.S. release could be bought in a U.S. retail store at the time consists of a complete U.S. Collection. IMHO:

Things included in a complete U.S. Dreamcast collection:

All U.S. Releases to retail stores (Toys 'R Us, Gamestop, etc)
Sega All-Stars
Web browsers (different versions)
Hot, New! & Other Variants
TRU Exclusives (Sports 3-Pack)
Limited Editions (Shenmue, Sonic)
Bleemcast discs.

Things Not included:

Foreign games (imports)
Homebrews
Demo Disks

[Jibbajaba]

Are the Sega All Stars versions really required for a complete DC collection if you have the standard release of the game?

What's a complete collection in your opinion? If you feel that they are, then they are. To me, they and the Not For Resale games are required for the whole thing. So are all of the third party stuff (GOAT releases, bleem!cast, GameShark, etc) and the Web Browsers and Official Dreamcast Magazine demos. I would argue that Sonic LE probably isn't needed as it never saw a wide release (it's like the Star Fox Competition Cart for the SNES in my opinion).

Your mileage may vary.

Dude, your games are not third party releases. They are homebrews.

Chris

[goatdan]

Dude, your games are not third party releases. They are homebrews.

What makes them homebrews? We do none of their production from home, they are sold at some real retail stores, and as a matter of fact, I worked with the guy who did bleem a little to get the rights to do them.

Besides, the game industry itself think that they are third party releases. I'm sorry, but when I have people that made Dreamcast games with Sega tell me that they are third party releases and someone on a message board telling me they are homebrews, I'll trust the people in the industry any day.

[Jibbajaba]

Dude, your games are not third party releases. They are homebrews.

What makes them homebrews? We do none of their production from home, they are sold at some real retail stores, and as a matter of fact, I worked with the guy who did bleem a little to get the rights to do them.

Besides, the game industry itself think that they are third party releases. I'm sorry, but when I have people that made Dreamcast games with Sega tell me that they are third party releases and someone on a message board telling me they are homebrews, I'll trust the people in the industry any day.

Goatdan please tell me the nearest gamestop or TRU or Best Buy I can walk into and purchase your games.

A non-officially licensed game that was released well after the system died is NOT a third-party game.

Just don't be disappointed when no one feels the need to buy your games in order to have a complete US collection.

Chris

[goatdan]

Just don't be disappointed when no one feels the need to buy your games in order to have a complete US collection.

So Tengen releases aren't needed for a complete NES set either? They were produced in essentially the same way as those carts, except unlike the Tengen carts we did it in a legal way. A better example would be the early Accolade releases for the Genesis.

I could care less if you "feel the need" to purchase them or not. But stating that the games are "homebrews" when the industry that creates games has personally told me otherwise is wrong to me. I had someone personally tell me by phone that his company looks at them as third party releases, and if he tells me that, I'm going to believe him much more than I'll believe you. Sorry.

And if that means that I think that you need them to have a full US set, well damn. It's my opinion, take it or leave it.