rare PS2 games worth money later down the road

[Bronty-2]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

[Bronty-2]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

True, I was mostly thinking of classic games for this.

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

True, I was mostly thinking of classic games for this.

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

[Oobgarm]

I'll go over your list. I don't consider any of these titles RARE yet, but here we go:

Possible money makers:

World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 (for Collectors only, no one in their right mind would pay more than $20 just to play it)
Growlanser Generation Deluxe
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence LE

Uncommons:

Fire Fighter F.D. 18
RPG Maker 3
Fatal Frame 1-3
Grandia Xtreme
Jurrasic Park: Operation Genesis

Not a chance they'll be worth much:

Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Shadow Hearts 1+2
Silent Hill 1-4

Games that have 'Suikoden Syndrome', meaning they aren't rare but are always in demand:

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
REZ
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2

[Oobgarm]

I'll go over your list. I don't consider any of these titles RARE yet, but here we go:

Possible money makers:

World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 (for Collectors only, no one in their right mind would pay more than $20 just to play it)
Growlanser Generation Deluxe
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence LE

Uncommons:

Fire Fighter F.D. 18
RPG Maker 3
Fatal Frame 1-3
Grandia Xtreme
Jurrasic Park: Operation Genesis

Not a chance they'll be worth much:

Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Shadow Hearts 1+2
Silent Hill 1-4

Games that have 'Suikoden Syndrome', meaning they aren't rare but are always in demand:

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
REZ
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2

[gepeto]

I the age of the cd\dvd I think that the quote rare game is a thing of the past. If something becomes too rare companies will find a way to reprint.

Alot of the rare hype comes from the cartridege era nobody was reprinting carts and during the psx early years no one was reprinting. It sucks because it removes that part of collecting for some people. So I look at nothing in this era as being rare because it is just a pressing away.

[gepeto]

I the age of the cd\dvd I think that the quote rare game is a thing of the past. If something becomes too rare companies will find a way to reprint.

Alot of the rare hype comes from the cartridege era nobody was reprinting carts and during the psx early years no one was reprinting. It sucks because it removes that part of collecting for some people. So I look at nothing in this era as being rare because it is just a pressing away.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

[mailman187666]

yeah maybe these games won't be so much "rare" but give it another 5 years and some of these games, I believe, will be like finding a Valrkyrie Profile in the used PS1 section at your local EB. The games listed in this thread I think are ones that should be held onto by collectors because I believe they will retain thier value well. I know we can all speculate on what the future value will be for these games but I think the ones listed on my first thread will be the ones we should all hold onto for the future. I know as of now, every time i go into a game store, I'll do a quick check for Disgaea or Marvel Vs. capcom 2 and almost never see them. To find them complete is even harder to accomplish. So I'm just saying these games are probably the ones us, as collectors, should hold onto. Then 5-10 years from now we may go do a search on e-bay and find that our PS2 collections are worth something. Digital devil saga and SMT: Nocturn should all definately be bought by everyone because not only is it fun to play but they aren't easy to come by just yet, and i can see there is a following/demand for those games.

[mailman187666]

yeah maybe these games won't be so much "rare" but give it another 5 years and some of these games, I believe, will be like finding a Valrkyrie Profile in the used PS1 section at your local EB. The games listed in this thread I think are ones that should be held onto by collectors because I believe they will retain thier value well. I know we can all speculate on what the future value will be for these games but I think the ones listed on my first thread will be the ones we should all hold onto for the future. I know as of now, every time i go into a game store, I'll do a quick check for Disgaea or Marvel Vs. capcom 2 and almost never see them. To find them complete is even harder to accomplish. So I'm just saying these games are probably the ones us, as collectors, should hold onto. Then 5-10 years from now we may go do a search on e-bay and find that our PS2 collections are worth something. Digital devil saga and SMT: Nocturn should all definately be bought by everyone because not only is it fun to play but they aren't easy to come by just yet, and i can see there is a following/demand for those games.

[smork]

I dunno, Disgaea used to be really hard to find, but last Christmas (last time I was in the states and shopping) I saw, no shit, at least 50 new, sealed versions. Every Fry's I went to had a bunch, and I saw several at GS.

I actually bought 2 and gave them out as Christmas gifts

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

[smork]

I dunno, Disgaea used to be really hard to find, but last Christmas (last time I was in the states and shopping) I saw, no shit, at least 50 new, sealed versions. Every Fry's I went to had a bunch, and I saw several at GS.

I actually bought 2 and gave them out as Christmas gifts

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance count as well?

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance count as well?

[googlefest1]

what about Deus Ex

ive been to many shops in CT NY and NJ and none of the shops ive been to had this game

[googlefest1]

what about Deus Ex

ive been to many shops in CT NY and NJ and none of the shops ive been to had this game