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    Default I'm kinda mad at Nintendo.

    I'm sure I'll get over it... But I was so looking forward to the VC release of Kid Icarus.

    I downloaded it, then find out none of the old codes work!

    Why did we go and remove the old codes for, Nintendo? I forgot how hard this game was!

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    Spin it the other way. Nintendo gave the opportunity to master the game all over again!
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    What do you mean none of the old codes work? Did they eliminate the passwords completely?

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    Most likely they altered the code so that the passcodes needed to be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bitnes View Post
    Most likely they altered the code so that the passcodes needed to be different.
    Or they purposely invalidated the "cheat" passwords (ICARUS FIGHTS MEDUSA ANGELS, 8uuuuu uuuuuu uuuuuu uuuuuu, etc.).
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    Another reason to silence those who say that VC games are better than the real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diskoboy View Post
    I'm sure I'll get over it... But I was so looking forward to the VC release of Kid Icarus.

    I downloaded it, then find out none of the old codes work!

    Why did we go and remove the old codes for, Nintendo? I forgot how hard this game was!
    Wow, that's stupid.

    Nintendo should either

    (1) leave the roms 100% original, or
    (2) modify them, but put actual effort into it, new modes, online play, etc...

    None of this half-assed change-it-just-enough-to-be-annoying crap

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    Yeah Kid Icarus is a bitch without codes, but at least its not like Battletoads where either way its impossible.
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    Is there still a password screen? What if the codes are in there under a different password? Meaning they want to create a small "buzz" by making people rediscover some codes............

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    At least you can save your state. Why would they disable passwords? The R-type free credits trick still works, and passwords still work in Military Madness and Bomberman '93. Why would they selectively do this to Kid Icarus?

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    I believe Nintendo should be re-releasing these games as ROMs that have been updated with the technology. It's not that difficult to boost the resolution of the games and improve a bit on their frame rates, ect. Sure, it'll take some time but all the programming is already there, just get a small team of people that'll just upgrade it, homebrewers do this all the time.
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    I actually read about this last week before the game was released. Apparently the passcodes are running on some other type of code that is not compatible with the Wii's NES emulator. This was described as the exact problem the Wii has with Mario Kart 64 and the saving of ghost data.

    Sadly, Nintendo has no plans to "fix" the game to allow the codes to work in the future--as they feel it does not cripple the game (due to the save state feature).

    All I know is I'm happy I have my Kid Icarus cart. No watered down Wii version for me.
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    From Joystiq;

    The omission of these codes is apparently a result of the original cartridge depending on an included module to process the codes; Virtual Console was not designed to emulate this specific component. Similar to Mario Kart ghost data or rumble feedback, Kid Icarus codes are dependent on hardware external to the game file. It simply isn't cost effective for Nintendo to patch VC to support these apparently minor features; unless the service encounters a backlash.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Griking View Post
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    I find it unbelievable that it isn't cost effective to fix it. They're charging 5 bucks for a 20 year old game. It likely wouldn't be expensive to fix either. That's just greediness and laziness

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    Has Metroid been released? If so, do it's codes work? I presume if KI used a special component to generate codes, Metroid would as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agbulls View Post
    I actually read about this last week before the game was released. Apparently the passcodes are running on some other type of code that is not compatible with the Wii's NES emulator. This was described as the exact problem the Wii has with Mario Kart 64 and the saving of ghost data.

    Sadly, Nintendo has no plans to "fix" the game to allow the codes to work in the future--as they feel it does not cripple the game (due to the save state feature).

    All I know is I'm happy I have my Kid Icarus cart. No watered down Wii version for me.
    THAT'S ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.

    The games were recoded, that much is true, and they removed the passwords while they were at it. They're just being lazy as hell.
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    they probably figure no one will give a damn. for the most part, they are probably right. People like those on this board are a very small minority I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronty-2 View Post
    they probably figure no one will give a damn. for the most part, they are probably right. People like those on this board are a very small minority I think.
    I'm one of the "don't give a damns". Oh no, I can't cheat my way through a game now.
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    The games were recoded, that much is true, and they removed the passwords while they were at it. They're just being lazy as hell.
    I have a question, since your comment contradicts itself, does that mean it rules itself out of existence? I ask, because I don't understand how recoding, and removing the passwords is equivalent to being lazy as hell. Seems like just wrapping the ROM within an emulator would of been lazy as hell, which is precisely what they did. The code system is still in the game, it's just not supported by the emulator. You shoul probably download and see for yourself, instead of getting mad at something without researching the basis of your opinion.

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    Just a minor detail. You really aren't playing the game if you are using cheat codes. As long as the core gameplay isn't affected, there isn't much to cry about.

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