"Wii is a piece of shit"

[jajaja]

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=10161

According to the Spore developer the Wii is a piece of shit hehe. This is the first time i hear someone in the gaming industry saying negative things about the Wii, only thing i've seen is praising and how great it is. I think POS is abit overboard tho. Hes onto something about the AI. AI and physics requires alot of CPU power, here Wii comes short unfortunatly, comparing to the competitors and whats today "standard". This doesnt mean you can make fun and great games of course

Also check the fanboy comments at the bottom of the article haha

[Snapple]

I think the wording in the article, "trying to make a name for himself" is apt.

I'm not going to say that the Wii has superior processing power compared to the PS3 or 360, because clearly it doesn't, but he is exaggerating just a tad, especially on the notion that Nintendo doesn't treat gaming as art like Sony or Microsoft does.

Still, pretty amusing.

[Felixthegamer]

Just somebody shooting their mouth off to get attention

[Poofta!]

i have a wii. and 360. and i agree. its a sad day when the best game on a nintendo console is a collection of lame freaking flash games.

[TurboGenesis]

I think 'Spore' is piece of shit. Along with the rest of Maxis and EA crap. (Last good thing from Maxis was Sim City.)

I'm sorry I like my games to be fun. If I want "art", I'll go to a museum. I don't play my games on Pause.

[jajaja]

I'm sorry I like my games to be fun. If I want "art", I'll go to a museum. I don't play my games on Pause.

Art isnt just pictures and things that stands still. But why not have both things? Artistic and fun games, why choose? On the other side, "art" is a pretty broad word, theres no real answer to whats art and not. Depends on the creator. So you dont need raw power to make games artisticly. Many consider games like Zelda:TP and Okami as very artistic games.

[roushimsx]

I think 'Spore' is piece of shit. Along with the rest of Maxis and EA crap. (Last good thing from Maxis was Sim City.)

Oh man, you are so dead to me I love Maxis to bits and pieces and I hate how EA has turned them into essentially a Sims expansion puppet company, but that doesn't change the fact that Will Wright is fucking awesome and everything he touches turns to gold. Hell, he's right up there with Sid Meier.

So what if one of the devs on the project doesn't like the Wii? That's nothing new. A lot of people have been complaining for a while that the Wii doesn't have the juice to do high end stuff (such as a console port of Spore), but those aren't really the games that are targeted for the platform (except from those bottom-tier sweatshop dev houses that get hired to do second-rate ports of games just to increase cross-platform clout).

There's probably something deeper going on here, such as this guy recently being thrown into the mix of trying to do a console port of the engine or something. Man, would that suck.

[petewhitley]

I think 'Spore' is piece of shit. Along with the rest of Maxis and EA crap. (Last good thing from Maxis was Sim City.)

I'm sorry I like my games to be fun. If I want "art", I'll go to a museum. I don't play my games on Pause.

And thus ends the very first review of "Spore", a game that isn't even close to being released.

[cessnaace]

I think 'Spore' is piece of shit. Along with the rest of Maxis and EA crap. (Last good thing from Maxis was Sim City.)

I'm sorry I like my games to be fun. If I want "art", I'll go to a museum. I don't play my games on Pause.

This whole thread seems to be based on one fanboy's opinion. I don't know, as the word 'shit' indicated to me a lack of intellectual depth and so I decided not to waste my time.

You don't like Maxis? Really? While I thought the graphics were subpar, I played SIM Copter for hours. The same for SIM Island. Call them guilty pleasures (especially SIM Copter).

I liked your last sentance though. !


Mark

[c0ldb33r]

Just somebody shooting their mouth off to get attention

Agreed - every consoles has its faults and good developers just work around them. This guy's just an idiot.

[All Things Sega]

These threads always make me laugh. Eeveryone has an opinion but doesn't mean you should base your purchases on it. From a developer's point of view, he was probabaly pissed that it was underpowered to do what he wants and probabaly pissed that the PS3 is hard to develop for. Each has it faults. But I never understood why people go so crazy about each system. The "fanboys" for each system are ridiculous. It's like their "team" wins every time one system outsells the other. We should sell T-shirts and hats with championship banners like they do for other sports. Examples:

PS2 2006 World Champions (in terms of console sales)

Gamecube 2004 Conference Champions (in terms of sales)

Game.Com 1997 Wild Card Winners (in terms of unsold stock)

The list could go on and on but this would be a simple way to spot the truly stupid fanboys in public. This way you could smack them upside the head for being morons

[GillianSeed]

Maybe I'm just in a foul mood today, but the only piece of shit here is Chris Hecker IMO. Nintendo has been making games in one form or another since 1889, and has shipped 2 billion units of software. For someone who doesn't appear to have shipped a single commercial title to call them on the carpet seems a bit disingenuous at best.

So the Wii doesn't have the number crunching capabilities of the 360 and PS3... big whoop. So it's a glorified GameCube.... that's great, because I enjoyed Resident Evil 4 on my 'Cube a heck of a lot more than Dead Rising or GoW on my 360.

As for Sony and Microsoft paying lip service to "games as art" on their Web sites, that's just laughable. They're in this to make money, just like everyone else. If you look at the launch lineups for both systems it's pretty clear that they're targetting the lowest common denominator -- lots of sports and lots of FPS. (on the PC, replace sports with RTS and MMOs)

Sure, the rare gem will creep through like ICO or Okami, but they will be the exception as opposed to the rule. Just look at the most anticipated 360 game for this year -- Halo 3, a sequel to a sequel. And for Sony, it's MGS4 -- a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a game that rebooted an old franchise. Neither company is exactly blazing new trails when it comes to gaming as high art.

Not saying Nintendo is any better, but at least they're trying something new with the wiimote control scheme. No there aren't any games that really take full advantage of it -- but the system has been out for less than half a year, and I think a lot of developers are playing catch-up, surprised by the staggering success of a console that was seen as a gimmicky joke by just about everyone.

As for what makes a game artful, is it simply a striking visual style or whacked out indie vibe? Is it a pretentious game developer labelling his work as such? Is it lots of swearing?

To my mind, an artful game should feature artful game play. Tetris to me is art, even though I'm not a big fan of the game. Staggeringly simple in theory, insidiously addictive in practice... oh, and it's fun.

[chicnstu]

AI and physics requires alot of CPU power, here Wii comes short unfortunatly, comparing to the competitors and whats today "standard".

Good AI and physics (Destroy all Humans) existed last generation. The Wii is supposed to be a little better than last generation (it just hasn't shown because developers are used to PS2 development).

[marvelus10]

Wii is a video game system not a suped up computer in a slim sexy case, not to mention a very smart move by Nintendo. No more sitting on your ass all night while your significant other is lonely in thier room reading a book. Put it this way how many of you get crap from thier GF's/BF's for playing to many video games on thier hyped up super computer systems (you know the 2) dont you wish they would just join you. Well get a Wii! I bet they try it once and you will be out of the shit books after the first try. You know what, shes losing weight doing it too but dont tell anyone I said so.

Dont tell me its a piece of shit.

P.S. I love my XBOX, DC, GBA, SNES and NES dont get me wrong, they are all sitting there right beside the Wii.

[Nature Boy]

No more sitting on your ass all night while your significant other is lonely in thier room reading a book.

What, you mean you've finally tired of the Wii and now you're spending some quality time together instead? No wait, that couldn't be right. You're no longer *sitting* while playing your Wii, and your girlfriend couldn't read with all the ruckus going on so she went out with friends?

(Dude, you know you could set down whatever controller you want to use and spend some quality time with the girlfriend instead. You know, like maybe engaging her in something that interests her, as opposed to buying the perfect console that she'll love too!)

[jajaja]

Double post, delete this post.

[jajaja]

Good AI and physics (Destroy all Humans) existed last generation. The Wii is supposed to be a little better than last generation (it just hasn't shown because developers are used to PS2 development).

Good AI and physics have excisted for years indeed, but i was thinking of the newest technology within the field.

The ***** console is a piece of shit.
Sega sux
Nintendo sux
Sony sux
Microsoft sux
Sega rulz
Nintendo rulz
Sony rulz
Microsoft rulz

I sooooo don't care!



Mark

Well, you took the time to post 2 times and do some arguing + you probly read the whole article so it looks to me that you do care hehe

[Berserker]

I guess I could go into all the ways that this guy (who is NOT Will Wright, btw) is wrong, but should I or any of us for that matter bother?

What we should instead focus on is how he's not really basing his argument on anything at all in the first place!

To drive his point home, he references video game company websites (PR), and quotes from video game company execs (MORE PR). No objective looks at any actual games made by either of the respective companies, or any actual games made for any of those consoles by ANY company at all, for that matter. Nothing substantial or material is compared. Just PR.

So just so I understand this right, in summation, the Wii is a piece of shit, two Gamecubes stuck together with duct tape, Nintendo doesn't give a shit about feigning interest in video games as an art form in their PR, and they should make a console that doesn't suck ass. Why thank you for that, random Spore developer guy! Now on to someone who can form a coherent point.

[cessnaace]

Well, you took the time to post 2 times and do some arguing + you probly read the whole article so it looks to me that you do care hehe

Like I said, I didn't mess with the article because the word 'shit' indicated a total lack of depth, was in probability written by a fanboy, and therefore a waste of my time, which is better spent posting multiple times in the same thread, hehe. !


Mark

P.S. And I stand by my comment on Myst. It may be art, but it ain't a game, hehe. It bored me to tears. Years ago I saw a copy of a spoof on Myst called Pyst. I wish I had bought a copy. Hehe.

[chicnstu]

Like I said, I didn't mess with the article because the word 'shit' indicated a total lack of depth, was in probability written by a fanboy, and therefore a waste of my time, which is better spent posting multiple times in the same thread, hehe. !


Mark

P.S. And I stand by my comment on Myst. It may be art, but it ain't a game, hehe. It bored me to tears. Years ago I saw a copy of a spoof on Myst called Pyst. I wish I had bought a copy. Hehe.

Awesome.