Differences between Ntsc Nes's

[SeverThe7th]

What the title says, what are the differences between the toaster and dog and bone nes. I want to import one here to aus. I know the 72 pin connectors are crap for the toasters. I also heard the graphics or something for the dog and bone are worse. Im thinking dog and bone for reliability though. If theres anything else i should know, please tell.

[MASTERWEEDO]

I like the toploader. I sold or gave away almost every toaster i had(i found 2 that were totally torn apart the other day). i didn't notice a difference other than it didnt give me any of the usual toaster crap, it works great.

[bazariah]

What the title says, what are the differences between the toaster and dog and bone nes. I want to import one here to aus. I know the 72 pin connectors are crap for the toasters. I also heard the graphics or something for the dog and bone are worse. Im thinking dog and bone for reliability though. If theres anything else i should know, please tell.

the top loader (dog/bone) one has no a/v output so it'll be harder to get running on a decent tv.. spotted that you're from austrailia, dont you guys have PAL tv's? if thats the case a toploader may have signal problems

best of going for the toaster model.. and buy a couple of spare 72 pin connectors... plus clean the games on a regular basis and you'll have no probs

[SeverThe7th]

Thanks for the replies.

Yeah, we got pal tvs. Im not sure what 72 pin connectors are good except for the nintendo ones. Any recommendations where to get em or what types?

[jajaja]

I have a NTSC Top Loader. As mentioned above, the Top Loader doesnt have A/V output so you must use RF. The RF in US is different from the PAL ones so you need some kinda converter so it will fit in a PAL TV. If you try to use a PAL RF cable the picture will be very static and you will also get static sound, just like a "sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh" sound.

[bazariah]

Thanks for the replies.

Yeah, we got pal tvs. Im not sure what 72 pin connectors are good except for the nintendo ones. Any recommendations where to get em or what types?

ebay would be a good port of call, can get them pretty cheap on there

same for buying the actual nes itself, you'll get it for a good cheqap price if you buy it with games =]

[VBForever]

Does anyobdy have a guide or know a website on how to mod the top loader to output AV?

I found one on http://www.gamesx.com/index.php but its a bit unclear and the pictures aren't the best in the world.

[smokehouse]

For the most art, I think the toaster has superior video capabilities. The top load is really only well known for it’s reliability. It is however a stripped down, far cheaper NES. If you want a good system that has the most bang for the buck, get a nicely used toaster and a few 72 pin connectors and use that composite out on the side. You’ll be happy with it, trust me.


Oh, and without an extremely rare adapter or cutting the crap out of it, you can't use a Game Genie with the top load either...another minus.

[Spartacus]

I have a top loader modified to output composite video. I've compared it side by side with my toaster and the difference in picture clarity and color is noticeable. It hasn't stopped my from using it though. In fact, I probably use the top loader most of the time because it's quick to pop a game in and out of it and it's rock solid reliable. I've never had it fritz out on me in the middle of a game. I personaly don't believe the 72 pin connector in it is any different than the one in the toaster. It simply benefits from not having the spring activated mechanism the toaster uses and so there's nothing to shift or move while playing to cause the screen to fritz.
I've always wondered if it wouldn't be possible to modify a toaster to eliminate the spring mechanism altogether and get it to run, possibly while it's still in the game load position.

[Cinder6]

I have a top loader modified to output composite video. I've compared it side by side with my toaster and the difference in picture clarity and color is noticeable. It hasn't stopped my from using it though. In fact, I probably use the top loader most of the time because it's quick to pop a game in and out of it and it's rock solid reliable. I've never had it fritz out on me in the middle of a game. I personaly don't believe the 72 pin connector in it is any different than the one in the toaster. It simply benefits from not having the spring activated mechanism the toaster uses and so there's nothing to shift or move while playing to cause the screen to fritz.
I've always wondered if it wouldn't be possible to modify a toaster to eliminate the spring mechanism altogether and get it to run, possibly while it's still in the game load position.

After replacing my 72-pin connector months ago (almost a year, actually), I don't have to push down the tray anymore. The only thing that does is push the cartridge's connectors down harder on the system's connector, which actually causes them to get bent out of shape. Not doing this alleviates it somewhat, though it will still happen eventually. I am 99% sure the toploader has a different 72-pin connector.

And TC, I bet getting a toaster + new 72-pin connector would be cheaper than a toploader. I also think the toploader looks a bit goofy, since the games are so tall.