Okay, I think I'd better go out there and make a serious effort to de-escalate the situation. I think I'm within my rights to say I don't admire how you've approached this discussion, at least at certain points, but I certainly don't want to go around needlessly insulting you, either. Sorry for the unwarrantedly harsh words.
I think it was no problem for me to respond to your potentially confusing comment (post #134) about video output, which might lead somebody to think Satoshi Matrix's statement about 720p wasn't utterly riddled with inaccuracies (which it still is), or your focus on (that particular implementation we know from certain *modern* cheap clones, but not the only possible kind of*) NOACs versus original systems, when I had clearly said it was preferable to do things with original-type hardware (i.e. not FPGA, not emulation running on a cheap ARM CPU - does that look familiar?) - yes, all these strange things you've been talking about have thrown me for a loop, because your misreading of my comments have caused a bunch of other problems in this discussion to trickle down. And, finally, the 100% compatibility within a system issue - I admit being pedantic here, but I don't see why it would hurt to say "well gee, yeah" and let's move on, as a comment between fellow forumers, but that leads me to another issue:I butted in at a discussion board open to the public? Take it private then next time, don't include quotes from a person you don't want replying to you, and start reading other people's postings for a change before going off half cocked for 5,000 words.
If they're not paying you, why is actually expecting that they live up to their promises a bad thing? I was originally interested in the RetroN because of comments to the tune of "100% compatibility." It is quite possible to make a completely accurate system, without emulation, but nobody's doing it. I'm not some trained dog that is conditioned to believe that it's OK to carelessly throw around terms like "100% compatibility" when it almost certainly won't be 100% compatible (and by compatible I don't mean "you can play a game with faults for a while," I mean it actually plays the game the right way), and I don't think anybody should accept that state of affairs.To me, I intepreted that as criticism of Hyperkin that they ever even suggested that maximum compatibility was their goal here.
Judging from your comments, which question my "defense" of this or my taking to task of that, it seems like you had no respect for my points to begin with, questioning whether they were useful, and now you've almost managed to bury them. I hope you can understand why I do not appreciate this. Let's please not do that.
* Many old Famiclones are still rolling along. Many old arcade bootlegs out of those Hong Kong factories you despise are still going strong, too, but in many cases it takes work to keep things going. I must stick to my guns about system availability and attrition - do I predict that it will hit you pocketbook at a certain date? No. But I don't think we should just say "it's perfectly okay not to have a plan for the future for replacing at least important components of systems in the case they fail." And I also don't think that it's a big problem to have good supply of completely compatible systems, be they well-made clones (unheard of in recent releases, of course) or reissues from the original manufacturer. Anyway, I would like it very much if we could agree that eventually - perhaps, and hopefully, at a point in time not relevant to our projected lifespans - there will be a very severe shortage of these systems. Yes, at the moment, to many people who see that Genesis and NES units are currently quite cheap still, it doesn't seem like there is much of a problem. But then again console prices seem to be steadily growing on many of these systems - and of course it can also be a crapshoot getting a system that's acceptable, especially if you have very high standards for what gameplay should look and sound like. Nothing lasts forever, as the Book of Job says. In any case I am actually rather lost as to how this became so contentious. Wouldn't it be a good thing to be able to grow the number of people who can enjoy classic systems, rather than see it shrink while eBay profiteers exploit the situation?
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Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
