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[Sonicwolf]

i noticed there was no reserve price on the auction, which i had set in turbo lister as £140 GBP..

So you are saying that you cancelled the auction after its completion because you didnt make as much money as you wanted. Dont toy with people on eBay.

[eskobar]

I have read the entire thread ....

My conclusion is : BULLSHIT.

Predatorxs didn't cancel shit, he wanted more money for his game .... i hate when sellers do that stuff; why don't use BIN with Best Offer !???

He deserves a negative, if he has balls, he should ship the game ASAP; but that won't happen.

Very sorry, Skaar; it's shame that you have to deal with this shit, Karma will do its job with this ass-wipe

[Ed Oscuro]

Hey Predatorxs...

On the record, I do "NO JACK," so hear me out.

Some time ago I saw a copy of the highly regarded X68000 game "AKUMAJO DRACULA" go for like $600 on eBay; a lot more than it was worth. I needed some money to buy another game I'd been searching for so I listed mine and hoped for the best.

TWO of my bidders contacted me and said they'd forgotten to bid on the item or hadn't bidded enough. I had to say sorry - it hurt me more than it hurt them, in the end, to complete the transaction, but it's what I had to do.

That said, you weren't trying to take advantage of market ignorance like I was. I'm sorry to hear your item went below what you think is the market value, but you still gots to come through man!

FINAL THOUHT: Isn't eBay giving sellers a number of free listings per month now? (Am I repeating myself?) All the more reason to list an item with the amount you want to get as a BIN and high starting price right offa da bat.

[Predatorxs]

Well i'm glad some of the people that haven't been on Dp for all that long and don't know me are passing comment, and i'm telling lies thanks for your +1 posts there not appreciated!.. And i'm not lying,

THE..... R..E..A..S..O..N.. It went for a low price is i was cancelling the bids at the end.. Sooo should i get back to all the other bidders that had bid more and sell it to them??

Also if i was a scheming no good ebayer, why didn't i just get another ebayer or a friend to shill bid the damn thing up to cover myself??

Because i play by the rules, i was doing what f**king ebay said to do, since i had no time left (less than 12 hours left, i couldn't stop the auction), i had hoped to have the auction end with no bids and relist with the reserve so it would go as i intended.

I'm not really interested by the comments some of the newer DP members have made, since they dont know me? but can still pass comment on me.. thanks guys?!

I'v explained the situation, I did use turbo lister, i did have a reserve set. I DON'T think i should take the hit when ebays turbo lister is garbage?? And i'm pretty much finished with ebay.

And i still have only limited access to the internet, i'm writing this message on a friends iphone. I no longer have internet access at work, its blocked to only the sites that we need to use.

PS, I appreciate your comments Ed Oscuro, but i'm not willing to take the hit when i did choose a reserve price. I hope your doing ok, i haven't spoke to you in along time.

[eskobar]

Well i'm glad some of the people that haven't been on Dp for all that long and don't know me are passing comment, and i'm telling lies thanks for your +1 posts there not appreciated!.. And i'm not lying,

THE..... R..E..A..S..O..N.. It went for a low price is i was cancelling the bids at the end.. Sooo should i get back to all the other bidders that had bid more and sell it to them??

Also if i was a scheming no good ebayer, why didn't i just get another ebayer or a friend to shill bid the damn thing up to cover myself??

Because i play by the rules, i was doing what f**king ebay said to do, since i had no time left (less than 12 hours left, i couldn't stop the auction), i had hoped to have the auction end with no bids and relist with the reserve so it would go as i intended.

I'm not really interested by the comments some of the newer DP members have made, since they dont know me? but can still pass comment on me.. thanks guys?!

I'v explained the situation, I did use turbo lister, i did have a reserve set. I DON'T think i should take the hit when ebays turbo lister is garbage?? And i'm pretty much finished with ebay.

And i still have only limited access to the internet, i'm writing this message on a friends iphone. I no longer have internet access at work, its blocked to only the sites that we need to use.

PS, I appreciate your comments Ed Oscuro, but i'm not willing to take the hit when i did choose a reserve price. I hope your doing ok, i haven't spoke to you in along time.

It would change a thing if i knew you from 30 years ago, what you did is wrong. Why did you cancel bids ??. Shouldn't at least the game reach 100 st. pounds ?? ... Couldn't you take an offer lower than 140 ? ... is not like you are giving an item for free, it was your mistake, not skaar's.

I saw your feedback and you sold one for 71 pounds ?? ....


EDIT.

If you insist that you play by the rules ... isn't a rule to sell the item to the highest bidder ? ... technically you couldn't "cancel" his bid, so he is the legitimate winner, isn't he ?

[badinsults]

The rules by ebay are such that you cannot cancel an auction with 12 hours left. If you didn't want the auction to end, you should have canceled it before this. You shouldn't have started cancelling bids (something I very much doubt you did) if you didn't want the price to be too low. You know, you should just suck it up and accept that you screwed up. Everyone makes mistakes, and the people who buy your stuff shouldn't be the ones suffering. It is an asshole move on your part and I really don't know why you are surprised at the backlash. Really, at one point I thought you were a pretty good guy on these forums, but now you come off as selfish and arrogant in your attempts to get out of a legally binding agreement.

[monkeychemist]

Well i'm glad some of the people that haven't been on Dp for all that long and don't know me are passing comment, and i'm telling lies thanks for your +1 posts there not appreciated!.. And i'm not lying,

THE..... R..E..A..S..O..N.. It went for a low price is i was cancelling the bids at the end.. Sooo should i get back to all the other bidders that had bid more and sell it to them??

Also if i was a scheming no good ebayer, why didn't i just get another ebayer or a friend to shill bid the damn thing up to cover myself??

Because i play by the rules, i was doing what f**king ebay said to do, since i had no time left (less than 12 hours left, i couldn't stop the auction), i had hoped to have the auction end with no bids and relist with the reserve so it would go as i intended.

I'm not really interested by the comments some of the newer DP members have made, since they dont know me? but can still pass comment on me.. thanks guys?!

I'v explained the situation, I did use turbo lister, i did have a reserve set. I DON'T think i should take the hit when ebays turbo lister is garbage?? And i'm pretty much finished with ebay.

And i still have only limited access to the internet, i'm writing this message on a friends iphone. I no longer have internet access at work, its blocked to only the sites that we need to use.

PS, I appreciate your comments Ed Oscuro, but i'm not willing to take the hit when i did choose a reserve price. I hope your doing ok, i haven't spoke to you in along time.

sorry bud, the only way to save face after all this is to just complete the sale. Anything else you say makes you sound more and more like an ass...

[TonyTheTiger]

Even if you're being completely up front, what you're basically saying is that, between the two of you, he deserves to get screwed more than you do.

[Sonicwolf]

Well i'm glad some of the people that haven't been on Dp for all that long and don't know me are passing comment, and i'm telling lies thanks for your +1 posts there not appreciated!..

I happen to be one of the people that bid on the auction too and I have been on this forum for a while.

Also, considering you have posted less than 20 times in the last year, dont expect people to know you very well!

[Cornelius]

I'm with Predatorxs on this one guys. Point-by-point:

-not everyone refreshes their auctions every 10 minutes, so I can see why he never saw that it was messed up. Maybe You think he skipped the reserve on purpose in order to save a few cents on a ~$300 item? Does that make sense?
-I've started auctions only to remember a few days later I'm going to be out of town the weekend they end. Yes, poor planning, but something anyone can do.
-Who got 'screwed' more... the "winning" bidder, or the high bidder whose bid was canceled? I don't think anyone has grounds to say Predatorxs is lieing about canceling bids.
-It sucks to think you got a good deal on something, then have it yanked away, but really, what true harm is done to the 'winning' bidder?

Anyway, just my take on it. Definitely a sucky situation for all.

[Predatorxs]

This will be my last reply...

1 - I'm not looking to save face, as a DP member i thought i'd sahre my side of this stupid situation

2 - Nobody deserves to get screwed, i refunded the payment.

3 - I'v posted less than 20 times, after being pretty much scammed by another DP member, and DP isn't what it used to be..

4 - I replied back to show i wasn't being unfair, but i had chosen a reserve price for my auction, which wasn't even included in the auction, i'v already emailed ebay and complained.

5 - And since pretty much non of you seem to know me, your still talking like you do?? Strange.

6 - Why would i post here on DP about the auction and then do this, I WOULDN'T!!

[Sonicwolf]

This will be my last reply...

1 - I'm not looking to save face, as a DP member i thought i'd sahre my side of this stupid situation

2 - Nobody deserves to get screwed, i refunded the payment.

3 - I'v posted less than 20 times, after being pretty much scammed by another DP member, and DP isn't what it used to be..

4 - I replied back to show i wasn't being unfair, but i had chosen a reserve price for my auction, which wasn't even included in the auction, i'v already emailed ebay and complained.

5 - And since pretty much non of you seem to know me, your still talking like you do?? Strange.

6 - Why would i post here on DP about the auction and then do this, I WOULDN'T!!

Look, Im not trying to be a jerk or anything but it seems to be the consensus that if you had wanted to cancel the auction, you should have done so in the time you were able. You should have just made sure everything was ok before you waited for the auction to run down. People become suspicous when the seller cancels an auction during transaction time.

I guess this was just... an unfortunate set of circumstances.

[Predatorxs]

I did say the last post was it for me, but to clear up the general situation.. i only noticed the morning of the auction endding when there were bids that it said so-and-so is currently winning?

I thought how is that since i have a reserve? I had already started cancelling bids in the morning, only because there was little interest and only a handful of people watching, i didn't just decided to do it 5 minutes before it ended, Because on the flip side people could have gone buck nutty and put loads of bids on it.

But i followed ebays instructions (feel free to go and read what there instructions are?! there crazy), to cancel bids, and try to have it finish with no winner and simply try to relist, believe me if i had known i had a time limit, and i had noticed there was no reserve i would have killed the auction right after i had first listed the damn thing.

It ended at the low price it did because i was there canceling bids at the end, when i started cancelling it was upto £90. I simply wanted it to end with no winner and just relist, again as ebay says to do, then literally have to beg the winning bidder to understand the situation, (its crazy, i see ebay losing alot of £££ with rules like that.)

Its been a comedy of errors from start to finish, i'm not looking to rob or rip anybody off, i hate when it happens to me.. so i just wouldn't sh*t on anyone else.

I'm not going to play ping pong about this any longer, and i'v probably posted more in 1 day then i have in the last year, its a shame its not under better and more productive topics, than PredatorXS is lame, is a jerk, is pissed it went for a low price, is a scumbag, is talkin sh*t, is telling storys etc, etc, etc..

[Sonicwolf]

Ok, as I said, misunderstanding and unfortunate circumstances. Please dont take the skepticism so harshly. Skepticism is the natural way for people in modern society.

[badinsults]

How do you cancel bids if someone snipes with 2 seconds left?

To me, doing that is just dumb. I'm sure if you left the auction alone, you would have got a reasonable price for it ($200-$300).

[eskobar]

How do you cancel bids if someone snipes with 2 seconds left?

To me, doing that is just dumb. I'm sure if you left the auction alone, you would have got a reasonable price for it ($200-$300).

hehehe, i know; it side of the road is quite bizarre .... the worst part is that skaar will never get the game from him.

[retrocollectorguy]

From my experience, most sellers on ebay.uk are douchebags like this one so I just avoid it all together..

[skaar]

I think it's just a shitty situation all around. I feel bad for the guy for all the shit he's taking, and I feel lousy I'm not getting a sweet deal on a game.

Myself, I'd have taken the hit to maintain my reputation - it's more important to me than the money. But that's easy to say from this side of the fence. I've had a few protos end for way less than I thought they would, but I've also had a few go for way more (ahem NWC) than I thought so karma balances itself out.

I'm not planning on leaving a neg, I'm giving the guy the benefit of the doubt and will just let the auction die off my ebay page with no feedback. He did refund my money, so while I lost a bit on the exchange rate on a 1 week loan, no real harm for me.

Also, he did apologize via PM. Sometimes bad things just happen to people.

[aaron7]

Bullcrap. You're letting him off WAY too easily.

Guy's auction ends for less than he wanted. Wahhhhhhhh

Suck to be him.

[HappehLemons]

Wait, sellers can't leave feedback on ebay anymore? Since when