Is there anyone like me that can't get into... the C64?

[Arkhan]

a) get a C128
b) Zak McKraken, Omega, Times of Lore, Space Rogue, Breakers, Might and Magic II, Battletech, The Magic Candle, Rings of Zilfin, Portal, any Gold Box, Alter Ego, Tass Times..., Star Fleet I, Hacker II, The Bard's Tale III, Sentinel Worlds I, Heart of Africa, Starflight, The Halley Project, The Mars Saga, Castles of Dr Creep, Knights of Legend, Storm across Europe, Project Firestart, Wizards Crown....those clssics should keep you amused for some time

Those will keep AB amused assuming RPGs are what hes looking for... lol

WinVICE is the only C64 emulator you should bother using. If you have an X-1541 cable you can hook it up to your PC and boot real disks in the emulator, copy disks, etc....

I would stay away from TOSEC. use gamebase64 like mayhem mentioned. Most games in vice you can just click "Autostart disk or tape image" and go go go with it. Sometimes you have to just attach it and give the

LOAD "*" ,8 or LOAD "*" ,8,1

Games you should try if slowpaced RPGs arent what youre huntin for:

Space Taxi, Katakis, Parallax, Creatures 1 and 2, mayhem in monsterland, Paradroid, Black Tiger, Usagi Yojimbo, First Samurai, Stormlord, Neverending Story II, Dantes Inferno, Vixen (its not THAT bad), Shadow of the Beast (!), Phantis

and two other rpgs that werent mentioned:

Wasteland and Neuromancer


there are others too. I recommend Temple of Apshai trilogy, and Gateway to Apshai.

Its not allllll bad, you just have to find the gems buried under tons of piles of crap. Thats what happens when 3 million bajillion of the fuckers sell, everyone and their dippy brother make games for the thing

[tom]

And don't forget Nemesis the Warlock, it's a graphical experience you never forget ;-)

[Arkhan]

im just glad noone suggest MULE.

[tom]

M.U.L.E. works best on Atari 800, 4 players and all that

[phreakindee]

I'm very surprised no one has mentioned the problem with using many Tosec images and such cracked collections like that. In my experience, the majority of them will not load past the cracktro, due to most of the cracked games out there being written for European systems and my using an American C64. When I get the same game from another source that is made to run on an NTSC system all is flawless. Many, if not all, of the games you mentioned didn't work for me either until I got an NTSC version. With emulation, just make sure you are set up to run the right system. CCS64 and Winvice worked the best for me

[Ze_ro]

You still haven't really told us exactly what's happening beyond "it doesn't work". What is going on? Are all these games locking up at a black screen, or not loading at all, or what?

One thing you may need to keep in mind is that in a lot of cases, you're better off getting cracked copies of games rather than the original. Some of the more aggresive forms of copy protection still don't work well in emulators. Remember and Nostalgia are two of my favourite cracking groups out there, and both of their web pages have download links on them so you can get disks you KNOW work. Though keep in mind that both groups are European, so you will probably have to set your emulator to PAL if you haven't already (I know at least a few crack intros cause my real life NTSC C128 to lock up).

--Zero

[Flack]

As a long time C64 owner and a guy who still has a real Commie hooked up in his computer room, I have to admit that I do most of my C64 game playing via emulation. I'm not saying it's as authentic but it sure is a lot more convenient.

Track down one of the GameBase releases. They are up to version 6.0 now but for most people, the changes between even something like version 3 and version 6 are relatively minute (what's a hundred games in a collection of 20,000?). As far as I know they all (or at least the vast majority) work in WinVice. I second Mayhem's recommendation of putting WinVice in true 1541 emulation mode and then hitting alt-w to warp past the load times ... the true emulation mode loads a lot more "non-cracked" titles.

Two collections I recommend are the Blast Collection and the Arcade Collection. I don't remember when or where I found them, but each one contains over a thousand games and both weed out a lot of the crappy BASIC games that you end up getting. Just like iTunes, with such a large library, there's a lot of low quality crap out there and some of the collections like Blast have weeded a lot of it out for you.

[AB Positive]

You still haven't really told us exactly what's happening beyond "it doesn't work". What is going on? Are all these games locking up at a black screen, or not loading at all, or what?

One thing you may need to keep in mind is that in a lot of cases, you're better off getting cracked copies of games rather than the original. Some of the more aggresive forms of copy protection still don't work well in emulators. Remember and Nostalgia are two of my favourite cracking groups out there, and both of their web pages have download links on them so you can get disks you KNOW work. Though keep in mind that both groups are European, so you will probably have to set your emulator to PAL if you haven't already (I know at least a few crack intros cause my real life NTSC C128 to lock up).

--Zero

Waha - you may have found my turrican issue - I have Remember's versions from gamebase, but I do believe I'm running as a ntsc machine. I'll give the switch a try.

C64 Giana Sisters to me plays way better than the Amiga version - I can see why there's fans now, as bad as that sounds

The funniest one I've tried is "Galaga" ... there's two actually, B&W and color, and both have every sprite as just three or four pixels a piece. But... the ships and enemies move rather smoothly. Looks like a ZX81 game but was kinda fun to play. Certainly an interesting find.

As Arkhan said - I started with TOSEC when I was first getting frustrated with the emulator, I've found better ones to try. I agree with the 'finding gems in the crap' but in a way so does the NES and the Genesis so I'm seeing why it has fans. I may have to find that power brick and get one of those XE connectors again off eBay. (I had done a 64HDD setup but never really clicked with the machine)

edit - nope it's Crazy Town or something for Turrican one... goes to a screen saying how to skip levels Turrican+9 trainer and just holds - with no key or button press seeming to move it. Turrican II worked moving to PAL so I got to try that... think the Amiga ruined that one for me, heh.