That would not really be rape on their part though. The proper self-defense in that instance would be to beatdown, if not kill, the guy with the gun making the threats and ultimatums. The gunman committed both a threat of life on others, and at least an attempt of multiple rapes by proxy. Easy peasy. Gun's in play, choice is out the window. Either you have to neutralize the threat or do what they say in an attempt to preserve life. Life/existence is the primary value common among all humans. So violating that value is the crux of immorality. Anything else is pretty much aesthetics. You don't have to like it when people violate your aesthetic values, but you can take no forcible action against them for violating that value, well, morally speaking. You could, but then you are correcting aesthetic breaches of personal preference with universal moral violations. Kinda like opening a can of soup with a grenade. Overkill.![]()