PS3 vs 360

[G-Boobie]

This is quite true, just forgot to mention it in my post. I have a feeling you still failed, though, because:

See, I was hoping we could keep this civil, internet hero, but OK.

First, the 360's drives aren't proprietary - they're are essentially normal drives with the 360 firmware on them, but the 360 seems limited to using certain size drives.

Actually, they ARE proprietary. The connecting port is non-standard, they have a purpose built case that you have to get around one way or another, and yes, you CAN hack your way through, but I for one don't care to muck around with it. From where I'm standing, hacking a non-360 branded HD to work with the 360 is a FAR bigger hassle than the simple plug and play method that ANYONE can do with any off the shelf SATA laptop HD on the PS3.

More to the point, PS3 drives are completely normal laptop drives, and readily accepts the 9.5mm variety (and probably slightly bigger).

I know. I've swapped the HD on mine, and it was a completely painless procedure. What are you actually trying to say?

An official 60GB 360 drive is (I'm guessing Newegg's price is in line with what you found; Amazon is way outta whack) listed at $89 in a kit, and I did find a 160GB kit for the PS3 for $89 as well, on Amazon, which lists the 360 drive at $115 by itself. Is that what you found?

That's not out of line with what you'll find at any given Best Buy or what have you, so we'll say yes. For the cost of an official, don't need to fuck around with hacking or modding 60 gig 360 HD, you can find a laptop HD for a PS3 for half the hassle and that's twice the size or more. So far, so good.

Please tell me you found the 360 drive for a price in line with [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...der=PRICE]this list[/url] and that I'm just reading too much into your comment.

I'm no longer even entirely certain you read my post before responding. And, if you did, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make anymore. I THINK you're saying that, if I pry open a 360 branded hard drive, take out the actual disc, jump on to tech forums online and figure out what size and make will work as a replacement, install THAT into the aforementioned case, and hope that I haven't fucked anything up in the process, then the 360 is just as modular as the PS3. Which for the record is fucking nuts.

For extra shame, let's all consider that a PS3 can accept standard 3.5" computer drives, which are significantly cheaper for the same or even more storage capacity. All you should need is the appropriate SATA cable.

That was sort of my point, if I understand you correctly. Though, in a tragic case of potential reading failure, I'm not even certain you understood ME before charging in, nerd guns just a-blazing.

Look, let me try again: my point was that for far less money and far less hassle, you could get a bigger hard drive upgrade for the PS3 compared to similar money and hassle with the 360. If that's what you read, then I'm not even sure what you're trying to say and I'll let you get on with being all crazy indignant or whatever. If you interpreted my post as something else, then I either need to work on my communication skills or you should seek comprehension before charging in.

That leads us to the possibility that you're ridiculing me for being annoyed at Microsoft for raping people with their official 360 pricing, just because it's POSSIBLE to hack your way around it.

Let's play a game wherein I'm not interested in doing any aftermarket bullshit to my console and, like ninety nine percent of the user base, I just want to buy a fucking hard drive and plug it in: end of story. No looking up tutorial vids on YouTube, no trouble shooting on forums, no possibility of Microsoft banning my profile or locking out my hard drive for being, in the words of Major Nelson, "grey market". I'm going to pay more of my hard earned money than I would for comparable storage space on the PS3. Yes, it's possible you get a 360 HD on sale somewhere and the gap narrows, but not enough to change my point. Sony has made an effort with the PS3 to make changing the hard drive easy and inexpensive, whereas Microsoft has elected to make it either:

1) Needlessly expensive but painless, or:

2) Cheaper and a pain in the ass. Also, in the grey area legally.

That is all. It's not a condemnation of the 360, which as I've stated has a lot going for it. It's an observation as someone who has both limited time and money to upgrade his consoles with. I need to stay the Hell out of these fanboy threads: nothing but trouble ever seems to come of them.