Kids Today...

[Gameguy]

I've always liked older stuff, even when I was little kid. I preferred comics from the silver/golden age rather than current, I actually asked for and received an antique pair of roller skates because I wanted them more than a new pair of rollerblades(I used them too), and I was into older vintage bicycles instead of modern ones. I also thought rotary phones were cool, though I never actually had one. I loved going through antique stores.

I'm only 22 right now, none of that stuff was nostalgic for me as it was before I was born. I just thought it was cooler and better quality compared to the current stuff that was around at the time. Now stuff is even worse today compared to the 90's, from what I can see anyway. For example, I notice something with the newer laptop my mom has. It runs hotter than mine though they're made by the same company. I can't keep it on my lap as it really gets hot, my older one feels fine. The packaging it came in was cheaper too.

As for video games, I'm mostly into the Genesis which is what I had as a kid. But I'm also into the NES, I only played one for the first time in 2001 so i didn't have any nostalgia for it. I also have an Atari 2600 with some games, but I haven't touched it in ages and I'm not so into it. I don't like systems or games just because they're old, they have to be fun too. I do like other consoles from the 16-bit era, the SNES and Turbografx though I never played those either until more recently. I do like some more current games for the DS and some PC games look interesting, but most current games don't really interest me that much.

[Arkhan]

I see. I dont know why, but I have always felt differently about the stuff of yesteryear in comparison to most of my peers. For example, I have always preferred to use my parents 1988 stereo over my sisters brand new Sharp from 2002. I just like old things more than new. There is something to admire in the style and longevity of some things.

hey man, im only 21. I jacked my parents 1984 stereo/tape/record combo, and just went out of my way to get a 1988 toyota wagon,

call me crazy but old shit is cool as fuck.

[lagartija_nick]

You know, I take it back. Today my buddy and I went to Walmart, I got out of my car wearing my Sonic the Hedgehog t-shirt, and a little kid at the car next to me said he likes my Sonic shirt, and I said thanks. Maybe there's some hope after all.

Of course I could be wrong but that little kid probably is not complimenting the Sonic you know from yesteryear.

Even though the modern Sonic games are seen as lackluster, I think Sega still makes a ton of money off of kids who buy the modern Sonic games.

[Clownzilla]

My biggest problem with the modern era of "young gamers" is that they are being raised to think that a game is never complete unless you tack on another $50 in DLC. The idea of a complete game purchased in a box in the store is sooooooo 90's

[Arkhan]

DLC. lol.

nothin says great game like having to pay extra to get the full effect

[lagartija_nick]

My biggest problem with the modern era of "young gamers" is that they are being raised to think that a game is never complete unless you tack on another $50 in DLC. The idea of a complete game purchased in a box in the store is sooooooo 90's

Thats not the young kids fault. Thats just the reality of the situation. Today games are not complete without dlc.

Dlc you may pay for now and may have not access to in the future when the company decides to no longer support the game in question.

Didn't Bioware just come out with a $40 expansion for Dragon Age

What's even more disturbing is dlc annouced before the game hits the shelves in some cases.


If you really into a game expect to pay 2-3 times the original amount of the inital purchase if you want to experience everything the game has to offer.

[Aswald]

Well, around here we have a number of second-hand stores and the like.

I've noticed that a good number of video games they have are actually quite recent. Very much so, in fact. Even if 50% of them are there because of financial desperation, this would tend to show that they do not have that much lasting value.

Perhaps the kids in your school who insult the older games are just trying to be funny, or maybe they are technonerds who rate games on graphics and sound alone?

[Arkhan]

Thats not the young kids fault. Thats just the reality of the situation. Today games are not complete without dlc.

thats a bullshit reality.

As much as I loved Valkyria Chronicles, the need to download the extras for $$ was a slap in the face.

Back in the day those were UNLOCKABLES via effort.

now theyre unlockable via $$. Lame.

[snes_collector]

I think it's all in what you grew up with. If the kids didn't grow up with a Super NES or a Genesis they probably won't like it as much as what they did grow up with. It's all nostalga with what you had when you were small. I didn't have a NES or anything older when I was little, and I honestly don't care that much for it. I have over 140 NES games, and I bet I haven't played more than 40. It's like it isn't complicated enough for me, and that's the reason I don't care for it I suppose. I'm sure the same thing goes for your middle-school friends, SNES or anything older just isn't as complex as what is new.


Also, I'm a little bit older than you, but to this day in my school career, I'm not sure if I've never heard people hating on any type of media because its old. Maybe that happened when I was in middle school and I just don't remember, but it definatly doesn't happen now.

[thom_m]

It's good to know that someone that young can actually be interested in the classics. I'm 29, and I get shit very similar to that from people my age - people who grew up playing the same games I did.

I do agree, though, with the oens saying that modern gaming shouldn't be overlooked - even though I had little contact with it. I have a 6 year old daughter, and her gaming habits are being built around the NES/SNES/Genesis trio - with a little PSX here and there. I'm planning on getting a PS2 soon, though, and broaden our gaming experience (and yeas, I know that the ps2 is quite now, but it IS a different experience from what we're used to). It's about time!!

[Rickstilwell1]

You're smarter than most kids/teens, probably smarter than most adults too. Just keep it up and you'll go far, those dumb kids will probably become dumb adults. There's plenty of adults like that, trust me.


Cassettes were around a lot longer than 1992, we kept buying them until they weren't carried in stores anymore. We didn't want to bother buying new CD players when we had lots of cassette players already. Cassettes were still around 10 years ago, though near death by that point.


That's what I had to use in high school for a project, that was only around 6-7 years ago.

I bought the Nelly album Country Grammar at Target on cassette because they were sold out of the CD. And that was in like 2001 or something like that.

[MASTERWEEDO]

Most of the people i talk to are around 18-21, im 25. I seem to be the only one who appreciates anything made before 2000. my vhs collection makes jaws drop(over 4,000) and my classic gaming station gets replies of "I've never even heard of these." and "I thought Atari was the first video game".....thye cant comprehend that i'd rather play my genesis than their 360....also, most fail to notice the connection between the dreamcast and xbox, hell, most dont know what the dreamcast is.

[ReTrO-pLaYeR]

im not sure if youre trying to suck up to us so we think this 12 year old is cool, or if youre being trolled in real life and dont get.

either way... youre a kid every bit as much as everyone else in your elementary school.

yes retro games are fun; not everyone likes them. cool story.


also, everyone here who says games today suck, is an idiot. there are just as many great games today as there were being released at any point 10, 20, 30 years ago, if not more (depends which point you pick, really). nostalgia has a way of mucking things up. just because you enjoyed metroid doesnt mean you cant enjoy metroid fusion or prime 3. just because you think contra is the bee's knees doesnt mean that CoD:MW is crap. everyone here needs to grow up. for every shitty lightgun game on the nes there is a shitty railgun game for the wii. for every shitty 16bit sequal there will be a CoD: WaW.

games as a whole are getting better. technology has pushed realism in graphics, music and gameplay to new heights. this has made genres evolve and the landscape of gaming change. some mascots transferred well (mario), some... not so well (sonic). however the fact that today you have games being made which are 'old school' and are better than almost anything in their class from 10-30 years ago, is undeniable - whether it be depth of quality (castle crashers, shadow complex, dishwasher samurai, dragon age, SFIV etc etc). of course some games are timeless, we call them classics. the thing about classics is that each gen has them, including this one.

new franchises are able to create and expand on things from the past that programmers back then only dreamed of. calling games like Modern Warfare 'shit' is a sign of ignorance (at best). genres like racing were simply incapable of matching up to the quality which the programmers (and gamers) wanted until just a generation ago. RPGs today are everything that SSI attempted to do 30 years ago. Carmack himself is pleased with what FPS are today, and continues to push them forward and evolve. Hell, even side scrollers of the nes/snes era have lived on with spiritual and literal sequels (of varying quality, as everything in life) which deserve a spot in every gamer's library.

look at any wise/knowledgeable/experienced collectors or gamers here (or anywhere, really) and notice the span of their collection. it usually starts at when they began gaming (sometimes going backwards, depending on the person) and has the cream of the crop in terms of great games of every generation up until the current one (sure, everyone has a favorite era). pigeon-holing yourself to 2600, 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit, last gen or current gen is absolutely absurd. you are missing the point of interactive entertainment and prove nothing more than how narrow-minded and truly juvenile you are.

fanboys dont only apply to mascots or companies. dont be fanboy. try to view everything as objectively as possible. it is ultimately you who loses out on what the world has to offer. in the end of the day neither your classmates, nor us, give a shit to what you play on your tv, in your home.



if anyone is curious: ive been gaming since the NES. i enjoy my guardian legend as much as my IL2 Sturmovik.

I understand what you're saying, but that's taking it a bit far calling me "juvenile" like that. I wasn't saying their opinions were wrong- I'm just vexed that they were being biased simply because old games aren't gory or feature macho men beating up hookers. And- fanboy...ha! I DO actually play a few newer games- I've got a Nintendo Wii just like many others do and there are a few classics here and there. But, they still can't compare in terms of novelty to some of the older games. There are a few retro games a bit over-rated just because of nogstalgic value, like "Altered Best". But, most of them deserve to be respected and played. I'm not looking for another internet argument, I've already been through enough with some trolls on Youtube so let's not go there. I just think kids never even give the oldies a chance. And,no, I'm not "cool" just because I like the classics nor do I just play 'em to seem unique in personality. I play 'em because they're BETTER.

[BetaWolf47]

For anyone complaining about "kids these days.." how many Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, and Odyssey games do you have in your collection? If you don't have anything from before you were born, you're guilty too.

[ReTrO-pLaYeR]

For anyone complaining about "kids these days.." how many Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, and Odyssey games do you have in your collection? If you don't have anything from before you were born, you're guilty too.

Those are very hard to find- but don't judge me because you do not know who I am. I don't have a lot of money- but I do have around 20 NES games plus system, 30 SNES games plus system and many Gameboy (original games).

[Gameguy]

For anyone complaining about "kids these days.." how many Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, and Odyssey games do you have in your collection? If you don't have anything from before you were born, you're guilty too.

I have around maybe 20-30 Atari 2600 games. I planned to get a Colecovision as I played the games on emulators in high school but decided against it because of potential reliability issues, I've heard that plenty of systems and controllers have problems. I had a Vectrex but it died on me within an hour of playtime so I sold it off along with all of the games, it took up a lot of space too but the games were fun while I could play them. I have a few Intellivision games but no system and I plan to sell the games off, I never really got into the Intellivision especially with those controllers. I would like to get a Coleco Telstar at some point, a teacher of mine brought in his old one and it was fun to play. I have some handhelds from the late 70's and early 80's too.

[Poofta!]

I understand what you're saying, but that's taking it a bit far calling me "juvenile" like that. I wasn't saying their opinions were wrong- I'm just vexed that they were being biased simply because old games aren't gory or feature macho men beating up hookers. And- fanboy...ha! I DO actually play a few newer games- I've got a Nintendo Wii just like many others do and there are a few classics here and there. But, they still can't compare in terms of novelty to some of the older games. There are a few retro games a bit over-rated just because of nogstalgic value, like "Altered Best". But, most of them deserve to be respected and played. I'm not looking for another internet argument, I've already been through enough with some trolls on Youtube so let's not go there. I just think kids never even give the oldies a chance. And,no, I'm not "cool" just because I like the classics nor do I just play 'em to seem unique in personality. I play 'em because they're BETTER.

1- there are plenty of old Gory games. Plenty
2- the wii is not representative of today's games, its mainly for small kids and non gamers, the handful of hardcore games on it sell like shit. Go out and get a 360/ps3 and play some of the AAA stuff. Its not bad. Uncharted, gears of war, these are freaking fantastic games. If the only modern console i had was the wii, id hate modern games too.
3- see, this is why i scolded you to begin with, you think older games are BETTER. Theyre not. Youre the biased one. There was just as much shit then as now.

[Arkhan]

1- there are plenty of old Gory games. Plenty
.

Splatterhouse, Narc. Done.

All the gore you could ask for

Modern games kick as much ass as old games. Metal Gear Solid 4 man!

[Game Freak]

Im in the same boat as you although, as I am 19, soon to be 20, I have already travelled through the high school/teenager years appreciating the old things from days past and dealing with a lot of bullshit because of it. I have over a hundred cassettes, records, laserdiscs and a big collection of old videogames. Im glad to see younger people than I appreciating the past like this. Makes me not lose faith in the current generation of high-school goers.

I spend more time playing Super Nintendo than I do PlayStation 3. Period.

Same here man, I dont have a 360 or a PS3 and pretty much dwell in the past. I'm almost 17 (this month actually) and I have hundreds of VHS, LaserDiscs, Vinyls, audiocassettes, etc. I have jsut about every animated Disney film not because I was once a kid, but because I admire the art style and creativity shown through them. I also love classic films from the 80s, 70s, even back to the 40s and 50s (Casablanca is an AMAZING film!) I watch TV Land all the time and spend my weekends and vacation mornings watching music videos on VH1 Classic. The Super NES is my favorite system of all time, and i have an affinity for other systems such as the NES, Genesis, and Atari. I don't have the wallet to invest in some of the more obscure, expensive systems just yet, but I definitely enjoy the older stuff for the most part.

Let's face it, the culture that kids today are exposed to is pretty much garbage, and its just insane what children are exposed to at such a young age. Parents dont care about game ratings, getting their 11 year old children Halo and Call of Duty. Preteen/teenage girls go crazy over Twilight and whatever singing sensation Disney turns out next. It's just crazy...

[Arkhan]

Same here man, I dont have a 360 or a PS3 and pretty much dwell in the past. I'm almost 17 (this month actually) and I have hundreds of VHS, LaserDiscs, Vinyls, audiocassettes, etc. I have jsut about every animated Disney film not because I was once a kid, but because I admire the art style and creativity shown through them. I also love classic films from the 80s, 70s, even back to the 40s and 50s (Casablanca is an AMAZING film!) I watch TV Land all the time and spend my weekends and vacation mornings watching music videos on VH1 Classic.

you sound like me

i used to watch like threes company and shit at 2 am every night on TV Land, when i was like 13