Anyone else get their GTA San Andreas settlement checks yet?

[norkusa]

That's a good idea, I think I'll do that. With all the hoops they made people jump thru to get these checks, I can't imagine that many people got paid.

I'll put it the safe deposit box that came with my GTAIV CE so it'll finally get some use out of that thing.

[Bojay1997]

Are you sure you should be on this site or playing video games at all? To get the settlement, you had to swear the following under penalty of perjury:

You were offended and upset by the ability of consumers to use third party software and/or hardware to modify and alter the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc to display the Hot Coffee content;
• Would not have bought the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc had you known that consumers could modify and alter the game content; and
• Upon learning the game could be modified and altered, would have returned it to the place of purchase for a refund if you thought this was possible.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to commit perjury to get a few bucks, especially from a company that makes some great games.

[Namnuta]

Are you sure you should be on this site or playing video games at all? To get the settlement, you had to swear the following under penalty of perjury:

You were offended and upset by the ability of consumers to use third party software and/or hardware to modify and alter the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc to display the Hot Coffee content;
• Would not have bought the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc had you known that consumers could modify and alter the game content; and
• Upon learning the game could be modified and altered, would have returned it to the place of purchase for a refund if you thought this was possible.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to commit perjury to get a few bucks, especially from a company that makes some great games.

So true. But the leeches will do what ever they can to get money they think they deserve. Really make me loose faith in people.

[kedawa]

It's free money and nobody gets hurt. Have fun!

[98PaceCar]

It's free money and nobody gets hurt. Have fun!

So where exactly do you think this money comes from?

[portnoyd]

So where exactly do you think this money comes from?

A faceless monolith of a corporation. Sign me up!

Seriously... perjury? Being lawful to a fault is just stupid.

[8-bitNesMan]

A faceless monolith of a corporation. Sign me up!

Seriously... perjury? Being lawful to a fault is just stupid.

Which in turn increases prices for all of us. Frivolous lawsuits that only make lawyers richer are what's just stupid...

[98PaceCar]

A faceless monolith of a corporation. Sign me up!

Seriously... perjury? Being lawful to a fault is just stupid.

While I won't go quite as far as Bojay in my reasons for thinking this was a bad idea, I will say that it could have lasting effects that would be negative to gamers. If enough damage is done to the bottom line (unlikely, but possible given people's tendency to feel "entitled"), companies could start to limit their exposure to similar lawsuits and stop pushing the boundaries. I'm far from a fan of the series, but GTA would be boring as hell if it wasn't for the near limitless violence in it. If Rockstar/Take Two gets slapped enough times or for enough money, they could decide it's no longer worth it and start churning out the same rehashed crap year after year, not unlike EA.

I personally would rather see the boundaries pushed and developers willing to take risks as the end result will be much more interesting, but if people keep taking the rewards (profit) from the companies that do such things, there won't be any reason left to do it.

[norkusa]

Are you sure you should be on this site or playing video games at all? To get the settlement, you had to swear the following under penalty of perjury:

You were offended and upset by the ability of consumers to use third party software and/or hardware to modify and alter the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc to display the Hot Coffee content;
• Would not have bought the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas First Edition Disc had you known that consumers could modify and alter the game content; and
• Upon learning the game could be modified and altered, would have returned it to the place of purchase for a refund if you thought this was possible.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to commit perjury to get a few bucks, especially from a company that makes some great games.

I didn't commit perjury at all. A judge ruled against Take-Two Interactive in the settlement and everything in the claim I agreed to 100%. I did nothing wrong.

[98PaceCar]

I didn't commit perjury at all. A judge ruled against Take-Two Interactive in the settlement and everything in the claim I agreed to 100%. I did nothing wrong.

And yet you openly admit that you are going to take the settlement money and buy another product from not only the same developer, but from the same product family? You do realize it could have the same types of content in it that could futher offend you, right? I'd hate to see you waste your money on something like that, maybe you should consider a nice Wii family game or something a bit safer.

Oh wait, I know, you aren't really offended by the content. You just said you were (perjury) so that you could get the money (entitlement) that a judge said needed to be paid out based on someone else's definition of offensive (clearly, not yours as you are buying another version of the same product). That make much more sense.

[norkusa]

And yet you openly admit that you are going to take the settlement money and buy another product from not only the same developer, but from the same product family? You do realize it could have the same types of content in it that could futher offend you, right? I'd hate to see you waste your money on something like that, maybe you should consider a nice Wii family game or something a bit safer.

Oh wait, I know, you aren't really offended by the content. You just said you were (perjury) so that you could get the money (entitlement) that a judge said needed to be paid out based on someone else's definition of offensive (clearly, not yours as you are buying another version of the same product). That make much more sense.

Yes. As long as there's no Hot Coffee in Episodes, I have no problem with playing it. It's just San Andreas that offended me and I have every right to this settlement. Don't know why you have an issue with that.

[98PaceCar]

Yes. As long as there's no Hot Coffee in Episodes, I have no problem with playing it. It's just San Andreas that offended me and I have every right to this settlement. Don't know why you have an issue with that.

See above post from Bojay. I think that sums it all up nicely.

[Kamille01]

I don't know the ramifications that will result from norkusa's actions but in my opinion I think a few people here are overreacting.

However, I could be terribly wrong and norkusa could end up being arrested by the many federal agents that are currently checking this website. Or suffer an equally horrible fate that this thread makes me feel could happen.

Whatever happens, I guess he will get what he deserves?

[stargate]

Yes. As long as there's no Hot Coffee in Episodes, I have no problem with playing it. It's just San Andreas that offended me and I have every right to this settlement. Don't know why you have an issue with that.

I find this to be a load of BS. Are you trying to actually convince us that you were "offended"? Seriously? "Offended"?

norkusa, I am not going to judge you. It's not like you killed anyone. You told a small lie to get a few bucks, probably thinking it was no big deal. I am sure I have done worse.

But can you explain why you were offended? I mean, do you have children that saw the content? Is it against your religion? Are you a Jack Thompson supporter? Do simulated sex scenes involving no nudity really make you sick?

What irks me is that anyone who wanted too see this content would actually need to access it with a code. So unless you have children that got access to the game and used the code, then I call you a liar.

[kupomogli]

I think I got it.

These people might have been offended by the coffee and not the sex. Maybe there is no coffee in GTA Episodes From Liberty City. Or maybe they have something against hot coffee? Maybe moderately warm coffee would have been fine. Or nowdays they're serving cold coffee at some places. Maybe they just wanted a choice of which coffee they could pick instead of being forced to have their characters drink hot coffee before the pixelated porn. Or it could have been the sex, yeah.

[Bojay1997]

I didn't commit perjury at all. A judge ruled against Take-Two Interactive in the settlement and everything in the claim I agreed to 100%. I did nothing wrong.

Oh really? Let's take a quote from your post of January 2008 where you state the following:

Looks like the whole Hot Coffee thing is finally settled. People who bought the unpatched version of the game get up to $35 back if they still have original proof of purchase:

http://www.gtasettlement.com/

I still have my original receipts for the PS2 & Xbox versions of San Andreas but I don't know if I'm going to file a claim form. One of the requirements is that you must swear under penalty of perjury that you "were offended and upset by the ability of consumers to use third party software and/or hardware to alter the GTA:SA first edition disc to display the Hot Coffee content" and "Would not have bought the GTA:SA first edition disc had I known the content could be modified".

You didn't seem offended then. You even seemed to have some hesitation based on the fact that you had to swear to the statements under penalty of perjury. You went on to joke about the fact that you bought both the PS2 and Xbox versions of the game. Did you all of a sudden become offended or did you intend to commit perjury all along? Based on the evidence in the previous post, I am leaning toward the latter.

[Garry Silljo]

Oh really? Let's take a quote from your post of January 2008 where you state the following:

Looks like the whole Hot Coffee thing is finally settled. People who bought the unpatched version of the game get up to $35 back if they still have original proof of purchase:

http://www.gtasettlement.com/

I still have my original receipts for the PS2 & Xbox versions of San Andreas but I don't know if I'm going to file a claim form. One of the requirements is that you must swear under penalty of perjury that you "were offended and upset by the ability of consumers to use third party software and/or hardware to alter the GTA:SA first edition disc to display the Hot Coffee content" and "Would not have bought the GTA:SA first edition disc had I known the content could be modified".

You didn't seem offended then. You even seemed to have some hesitation based on the fact that you had to swear to the statements under penalty of perjury. You went on to joke about the fact that you bought both the PS2 and Xbox versions of the game. Did you all of a sudden become offended or did you intend to commit perjury all along? Based on the evidence in the previous post, I am leaning toward the latter.

Any one else notice that Nork never replied to this post?

[mezrabad]

It's funny, but I remember being offended that the Hot Coffee content was left on the disc without being an element that could be unlocked legitimately from within the scope of the gameplay. It was a half-made feature that they didn't have the intestinal fortitude to either complete or remove and instead resorted to leaking word of it so that people could mod it and give them lots of "free publicity" -- about which I guess I'm feeling a bit of satisfaction that it wasn't that free.

Really, after GTA IV, if they make GTA V, I'll buy it (though, seriously, I want it to take place in Tokyo. Is that too much to ask? Yeah? Okay, you're probably right...). I just don't want to hear about them making adult stuff for a game and then -not- including it.

[SegaAges]

I stopped reading a bunch of this, but here you go:
You were offended by the hot coffee mod. You can't get GTA: Episodes of Liberty City since there is a full on sex scene in The Ballad of Gay Tony near the end.

There is also full frontal male nudity in The Lost and Damned.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but now you know, and now you are not allowed to buy it.

I have no clue why there is such a huge discussion over this in the thread about morals and douches. It is simple.

You were offended by the adult content in San Andreas, and I just informed you about the adult content in both episodes of Episodes of Liberty City, and hence, since you agreed under legal document, you are already offended by the content of Episodes, and you can't buy it.

I personally think it is awesome you got that money. Unfortunately, to get it, you had to sign legal documents stating you were offended, and had you been informed ahead of time, you would not have bought it.

Hahahaha, that kinda sucks that I just informed you ahead of time on Episodes, because now you can't buy it.