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    So ... if the headlines about Gamestop not accepting the game in trade-in is even true, are they also not accepting trade-ins on Super Monkey Ball 3DS?

    Do they know that progress in that game similarly can not be "reset"?

    It's the same exact functionality. Why would they treat that game any differently?

    That aside, while everybody is certainly entitled to their own opinion, and nobody should feel obligated to buy or play this game for whatever reason they see fit, I can't help but feel that a tremendous portion of the gaming public's current opinion of this game has been drastically manipulated by sensationalist/reactionary gaming press.

    The internet is a powerful powerful thing, and this is perfect evidence of how something that is not even completely fundamentally understood by many can cause a MASS sweeping change in public opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Ice View Post
    Since replay value tends to significantly influence review scores, rest assured the game will be buried.
    IGN gave it a 7.5 for replay value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heybtbm View Post
    Why does Capcom need to justify anything? If you've done nothing wrong, what else is there to say? Some silly malcontents assume the worst and Capcom is suppose to respond with detailed explanations? I'm not even sure why I'm suddenly defending this. I guess I just can't stand blind stupidity (not directed at Bojay).

    Besides, who knows what goes on in their minds when they're developing these things. Like I mentioned earlier, these are the same people who thought Dead Rising's sadistic save system improved the game by "adding a sense of urgency".
    The thing is, they technically did do something wrong. It doesn't mean they did something sinister but not having a delete option is something I consider a design flaw. Actually, I'm slightly disappointed that it isn't to combat used sales. Because if they flat out said that's what it's meant for then I may think it's dumb but at least it's grounded in some real world issue and somebody put a little thought into the implementation. But for it to just be an arbitrary design choice...then it's just a needless one. It's certainly not something I'll throw a fit over or solely base a purchasing decision on. But it's still just one of those things that makes me think, "But...why?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    So ... if the headlines about Gamestop not accepting the game in trade-in is even true, are they also not accepting trade-ins on Super Monkey Ball 3DS?
    Does that have only one save file as well? Can you select "new game" and when you save, over write the previous save? Two important questions there at least...

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    So it's like Gunpey DS, one save file and no way to clear unlocked content. I guess nobody cared with Gunpey DS since the game sucked anyway.

    Weren't there sports games on the Genesis that saved stats and couldn't be erased? I really can't remember because I never played sports games much, I just thought I came across manuals that mentioned something like that. I really don't want to dig through them now to confirm it.

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    I think it's important to boycott this game. If there's not a consumer backlash against it, then we'll see this "one save" thing become the norm. Can you imagine if they do this for the new Mario game or the Mario Kart game? What happens now has major implications for later games.

    Looks like it's getting trashed in the Amazon reviews:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resident-Evil-...owViewpoints=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by heybtbm View Post
    Why does the Plumber need to justify anything? If you've done nothing wrong, what else is there to say? Some silly malcontents assume the worst, and Larry is suppose to respond with detailed explanations? I'm not even sure why I'm suddenly defending this non-flushing toilet. I guess I just can't stand blind stupidity (not directed at Bojay).

    Besides, who knows what goes on in their minds when they're installing toilets. Like I mentioned earlier, these are the same people who thought installing a toilet upside down was genius for "adding a sense of urgency".
    This is how that came across to me.

    Edit: I liked this comment, "Ever had a save corrupt? That would be awkward if you can't delete and restart..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Pimpdaddy View Post
    I think it's important to boycott this game. If there's not a consumer backlash against it, then we'll see this "one save" thing become the norm. Can you imagine if they do this for the new Mario game or the Mario Kart game? What happens now has major implications for later games.

    Looks like it's getting trashed in the Amazon reviews:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resident-Evil-...owViewpoints=1
    Why?

    They're not going to make videogames be things you play through once. Heck, this isn't even the first Resident Evil game with such a save system.

    It has no implications for later games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Does that have only one save file as well? Can you select "new game" and when you save, over write the previous save? Two important questions there at least...
    While I don't own the game, I've seen it described as a single progress/save slot, no option to delete unlocked content, reported as confirmed by Sega customer service reps with no option to delete progress on multiple gaming forums.
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    If that's the case, then indeed, why the fuss now and not before? Because this is RE and hence likely to be more widely sold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    If that's the case, then indeed, why the fuss now and not before? Because this is RE and hence likely to be more widely sold?
    I think it's because it's been presented as a "fuck you" from Capcom to resellers, both individuals and organizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oobgarm View Post
    I think it's because it's been presented as a "fuck you" from Capcom to resellers, both individuals and organizations.
    Well, it's been presented that way by the gaming press, but by all accounts publicly denied by Capcom in direct responses to major gaming press outlets who have alleged that the lack of save reset is a design decision intended to hurt consumers who wish to partake in the 2nd hand market.
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    While I don't like this decision Capcom has made for the game, the one save file only feature that's really just stupid to begin with, why are people boycotting the game for the sake of only one save file?

    You buy it new, play through it, and enjoy it. Have video games become more of something you simply buy to sell later rather than just playing through the fucking game?

    Capcom has been assholes lately, with no Ace Attorney Investigations 2 being localized, but is this really something that should be bitched about? Play through the game, enjoy it, then throw it out or do something else with it.

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    Wait until they re-integrate this plus the Ink Ribbon save system too. Can't find anymore ribbons? Time to buy another copy and try again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Pimpdaddy View Post
    Can you imagine if they do this for the new Mario game or the Mario Kart game? What happens now has major implications for later games.
    It wouldn't matter. Even if the next Mario Kart didn't allow you to reset your saves what are you really losing. Stuck with the best times and all gold cups? Something like that really doesn't matter. It's the same with Resident Evil Mercenaries and people are blowing it out of proportion.

    Looks like it's getting trashed in the Amazon reviews:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resident-Evil-...owViewpoints=1
    Some of the legitimate reviews are based on the fact that the game is a bare bones mini game, not about the save file problem.

    There are other reviews by people who don't own the game and have no idea what they're talking about, just heard that you have a single save file. Here's just one of the many fine examples.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/RUFFLRU...tag=&linkCode=

    A review is supposed to be what you've played and your opinions on a game. Not to bash a game while not even being close to what problems that are contained within the game.
    Everything in the above post is opinion unless stated otherwise.

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    The delete save feature will be added into the Super Turbo Resident Evil: Mercenaries Hyper Alpha 3D Plus release

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    I'm buying one and storing it away. Heck, maybe an untouched original cartridge will be worth bucks 10-20 years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    It wouldn't matter. Even if the next Mario Kart didn't allow you to reset your saves what are you really losing. Stuck with the best times and all gold cups? Something like that really doesn't matter. It's the same with Resident Evil Mercenaries and people are blowing it out of proportion.



    Some of the legitimate reviews are based on the fact that the game is a bare bones mini game, not about the save file problem.

    There are other reviews by people who don't own the game and have no idea what they're talking about, just heard that you have a single save file. Here's just one of the many fine examples.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/RUFFLRU...tag=&linkCode=

    A review is supposed to be what you've played and your opinions on a game. Not to bash a game while not even being close to what problems that are contained within the game.
    Like I said, it's about this becoming a regular thing in the future. The best time to stop a major event (one time saves in 100 3DS games) is when it is a minor event (one time save in one 3DS game). I don't think it's "blowing it out of proportion."

    Unlocking content has been a regular part of gaming for a long time. It gives the gamer a sense of progression. It also provides an incentive for playing. What sense what it be to pick up a future Zelda game and have Link at Level 99 experience with every item in his possession?

    As for the Amazon review section, I realize it's supposed to be used by people who have actually purchased the product. However, it's also a good place to voice consumer complaints since it's public and the manufacturer most likely reads the comments. It's certainly more effective than calling Capcom directly.

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    I'm a little more confused to how CAPCOM is trying to pass off a minigame as a fully priced release. I mean if they charged 20 bucks for it then it sound like a great little game but.. whatever I guess.

    Given the nature of the game I don't see this as a big deal, however the explanation they gave really said nothing about why they felt like the game needed this or that is was a good idea. That annoys me a bit because I can't really see a legitimate reason to not include it for those who do like a clean slate, even if it is just resetting high scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    While I don't like this decision Capcom has made for the game, the one save file only feature that's really just stupid to begin with, why are people boycotting the game for the sake of only one save file?

    You buy it new, play through it, and enjoy it. Have video games become more of something you simply buy to sell later rather than just playing through the fucking game?

    Capcom has been assholes lately, with no Ace Attorney Investigations 2 being localized, but is this really something that should be bitched about? Play through the game, enjoy it, then throw it out or do something else with it.
    While I don't care for Resident Evil, Capcom could stand to benefit from mitigating one PR disaster by resolving another (completely unsubtle hint: "hey, we're releasing Ace Attorney Investigations 2 in English!" would help with this shitstorm).
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