What Happened to these 2 DC Games?

[Nz17]

Looks like my mistake - I was looking for info on the game and thought I was seeing things about the Dreamcast version. Looks like it is just PlayStation (1) and Windows.
http://uk.dreamcast.ign.com/articles/089/089070p1.html

[j_factor]

Castlevania Resurrection actually was developed and playable on the Dreamcast. It was to star Sonia Belmont, the progenitor of the Belmont clan and the first (chronologically) to face Dracula. A video from IGN can be found here, fifty-three screenshots here. From what's been written by those who spoke with the game's developers, the game's cancellation was attributable to SEGA of Japan's discontinuation of the Dreamcast and Konami of Japan's jealousy over the quality and success of Castlevania Resurrection's development in America - the Japanese developers felt the series was "theirs" and that Westerners couldn't "get" it. The Dreamcast's discontinuation acted as the excuse to axe the game rather than port it to the PlayStation 2.

Discontinuing the DC had nothing to do with it. The game was canceled in early 2000.

[Nz17]

Discontinuing the DC had nothing to do with it. The game was canceled in early 2000.

Then please ignore that part of the story. I believe the rest is accurate.

[Edmond Dantes]

Yeah, of course Castlevania Resurrection was worked on what with all the content that can be seen online. The art is childishly bad, though (just look at that drawing of Sonia; it looks like a 12-year-old drew it), and the characters look equally ugly in the CG. I don't know how they managed to make Sonia so damn hideous.

"like a 12-year-old drew it" is being a little unfair (I've never known a 12-year-old who could draw detailed clothing or keep their lines relatively straight), but otherwise I agree--its hideous.

I'm almost glad this game got canceled--nothing I've seen or read makes me think it could've been good. Particularly the whole thing about it being a western-developed installment in a primarily Japanese series (has that ever had positive results? I mean seriously?)

[Aussie2B]

"like a 12-year-old drew it" is being a little unfair (I've never known a 12-year-old who could draw detailed clothing or keep their lines relatively straight), but otherwise I agree--its hideous.

I'm almost glad this game got canceled--nothing I've seen or read makes me think it could've been good. Particularly the whole thing about it being a western-developed installment in a primarily Japanese series (has that ever had positive results? I mean seriously?)

Heh, okay, then a talent 12-year-old? The boots are decently detailed. I guess my perspective is a bit skewed because I know a lot of good drawers and I'm not so bad myself. I know the majority of people, even adults, couldn't draw something as well as that picture of Sonia, as bad as it may be, but that's why they also aren't getting paid for drawing, haha. Of people that actually show some talent for it, my comment may have been a little exaggerated, but I've definitely seen kids in their early and mid teens drawing better than that. So no matter how you slice it, it's amazingly childish and amateurish for a professional.

[ishashobar]

"like a 12-year-old drew it" is being a little unfair (I've never known a 12-year-old who could draw detailed clothing or keep their lines relatively straight), but otherwise I agree--its hideous.

I'm almost glad this game got canceled--nothing I've seen or read makes me think it could've been good. Particularly the whole thing about it being a western-developed installment in a primarily Japanese series (has that ever had positive results? I mean seriously?)

All of the Metroid Primes are quite good, and they where developed by Retro Studios, based in Texas.

[Nz17]

Particularly the whole thing about it being a western-developed installment in a primarily Japanese series (has that ever had positive results? I mean seriously?)

How about Donkey Kong 64 and the Donkey Kong Country series? Most DK games are Japanese but all of the those were made by Western developers. There's also SEGA & Sonic All-Stars Racing which I find to be a particularly good game. And don't forget about Contra 4! I could name more but I don't want to research right now.

[Kirbysuperstar]

Particularly the whole thing about it being a western-developed installment in a primarily Japanese series (has that ever had positive results? I mean seriously?)

Lords of Shadow had promise. Too bad about the final outcome.

Actually, weren't Sonic Adventure 1/2 primarily made in America? I friggin' hate those games, but I know a lot of people love them.

[j_factor]

Lords of Shadow had promise. Too bad about the final outcome.

Actually, weren't Sonic Adventure 1/2 primarily made in America? I friggin' hate those games, but I know a lot of people love them.

2 was, not the first. However, Sonic Team USA was just a bunch of Japanese employees that Sega moved to San Francisco. American in location only.

[Kirbysuperstar]

2 was, not the first. However, Sonic Team USA was just a bunch of Japanese employees that Sega moved to San Francisco. American in location only.

Aaah, I see. Good to know.

[Edmond Dantes]

the Metroid Primes

the Donkey Kong Country series

... sorry, you're gonna have to do better than that.

[Nz17]

... sorry, you're gonna have to do better than that.

How much better?

[Kirbysuperstar]

... sorry, you're gonna have to do better than that.

Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast.

[Nz17]

So speaking (or, ahem, writing) of unreleased Dreamcast games, have any new prototypes been uncovered in the past few years? I know mention of a lot of incomplete or unreleased games was made around the time of the discontinuation, but I haven't been made aware of any new discoveries in the thereafter.

[c2000]

So speaking (or, ahem, writing) of unreleased Dreamcast games, have any new prototypes been uncovered in the past few years? I know mention of a lot of incomplete or unreleased games was made around the time of the discontinuation, but I haven't been made aware of any new discoveries in the thereafter.

Hellgate, Geist Force and The Flinstones: Viva Rock Vegas to name a few.

[Edmond Dantes]

How much better?

About 20% better.

And getting back to the topic, how many DC games were released, total? And were any of them RPGs, strategy games or installments in the Shining franchise?

[old_skoolin_jim]

About 20% better.

And getting back to the topic, how many DC games were released, total? And were any of them RPGs, strategy games or installments in the Shining franchise?

Off topic much? I'm sure there's a thread for that (or a database) on this site.

[j_factor]

About 20% better.

And getting back to the topic, how many DC games were released, total? And were any of them RPGs, strategy games or installments in the Shining franchise?

247 officially licensed US releases. Around 400 worldwide. Another 10-15 unofficial releases. No Shining games. A handful of RPGs. Only "real" strategy game outside Japan is Conflict Zone (which sucks). A few more in Japan.

[Edmond Dantes]

Off topic much?

That post was actually my attempt to get back on topic. It's at least about the DC.

If you'd rather I discuss why Metroid Prime and DKC aren't good examples, though....

[A Black Falcon]

... sorry, you're gonna have to do better than that.

You can't do much better than those examples though. Metroid Prime is one of the greatest games of its generation, and the DKC series (and DK64 as well) are fantastic platformers.

Oh, and on the note of Donkey Kong, DKC Returns is also Western-made of course, and is also fantastic. The Mario vs. Donkey Kong series for GBA and DS are Western-made as well, by NST, and those are quite solid too (though the latter two are puzzle games, not puzzle-platformers like the first one, or the title that inspired them, the Japanese game DK'94 for the GB, they're quite good puzzle games, so it works).

Another one by NST would be Bionic Commando: Elite Forces for the GBC, which was Western-made and, in my opinion, was one of the best games on the GBC. NST also did Ridge Racer 64, and Wave Race Blue Storm and 1080 Avalanche as well (both sequels to Japanese N64 games; though the first 1080 did have a couple of Western staff members, it was an NCL production).