RetroN 5 is officially a thing, apparently

[Satoshi_Matrix]

While I am glad Hyperkin is including options, I think this is rather ho-hum, especially compared to the recent revisions to CoinOps for original Xbox with its half a dozen options that specifically puritan to video output.

The only options that matter to me are 1:1 pixel and aspect ratio correction, MANUAL screen resolution support so I can have it fit my screen (I do not want it to "guess"!) and sharp, razor sharp pixel support.

All the soft filters in the world will never be used by me. Fake scanlines for HDTVs is cute, but I also don't think I'll ever use it. Scanlines are a quark of CRTs, not something I inharently miss when I play games on an HDTV. They're there when they have to be; to put them in artificially seems wrong somehow.

[treismac]

All the soft filters in the world will never be used by me. Fake scanlines for HDTVs is cute, but I also don't think I'll ever use it. Scanlines are a quark of CRTs, not something I inharently miss when I play games on an HDTV. They're there when they have to be; to put them in artificially seems wrong somehow.

Honestly, I really enjoy scanlines when I play retro games, be they "natural" on my CRTs or if I use a filter when I emulate on my pc. Their absence doesn't render classics on the Wii unplayable when I play in front of my HDTV by any means, but they are an endearing quirk in my gaming book. I'm glad Hyperkin is adding this feature beyond the utility of the feature itself as it shows that they are putting thought and care into this project.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

by all means, I'm not complaining about the feature, but like the PS4's Social button, it's an announcement that is neither here nor there for me.

[hellraiser]

Heres a look at some of the retron 5`s diffrent filters. I guess alot of news is supposed to come out of e3?

http://hyperkingames.tumblr.com/post...der-effects-on

[PreZZ]

The controller design on the hyperkin site reminds me of Homer designing a car. Its in the same league.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

The controller design on the hyperkin site reminds me of Homer designing a car. Its in the same league.

It's rather utilitarian/non-traditional looking, but I've seen worse.

Worst case scenario, you use a real NES/SNES/Genesis controller.

[recorderdude]

The Jaguar, Wii Classic Controller and SEGA 6-button all had a little too much to drink and forgot to use protection...

But hey, since when did retron controllers matter? Nobody here's gonna use the things over a real one.

[PreZZ]

Now that they are bluetooth controllers, they could be useful. I wish they would just do bluetooth snes and genesis QUALITY controllers with the same design as the originals.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I'm not gonna pass judgement on the bluetooth controller until I hold it in my hands. Who knows, the clickstick could be NeoGeo Pocket Color quality, the buttons might feel buttery smooth, the battery life might be a kazillion hours.

If it's crap, then it's still not the end of the word since you can use NES, SNES, or Genesis controllers with it as well. Heck, with adapters, you could in theory even use Saturn or PS2 controllers.

[treismac]

The controller design on the hyperkin site reminds me of Homer designing a car. Its in the same league.

Sweet reference.

[PreZZ]

Maybe I was a little bit harsh with Homer's car, it's definitely better looking than the controller. I will withdraw my words only if the hyperkin controller has a button playing la cucharacha.

[Cornelius]

Maybe I was a little bit harsh with Homer's car, it's definitely better looking than the controller. I will withdraw my words only if the hyperkin controller has a button playing la cucharacha.

Awesome. That is all.

[PreZZ]

It's rather utilitarian/non-traditional looking, but I've seen worse.

Worst case scenario, you use a real NES/SNES/Genesis controller.

If a console bundle contains 2 bluetooth controllers, it jumps the console's price for no reason. If i buy this thing, I would happily save 20 to 30$ on the bundle without the controllers, I would store them and never use them anyway.

[PreZZ]

WTF is that D-Pad? it looks like a reversed pudding in a bowl, its just FUGLY. Holding that controller is probably the equivalent of holding a red brick in terms of comfort. It looks bad, and you know the build quality will be awful (as usual) and the lay-out for different systems will be wrong. They should release it without the controllers, just the console

[Dr. BaconStein]

It looks like Hyperkin has competition... from Retro-Bit



Found this on their Facebook. Apparently it is called the "Super Retro Trio"

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/201..._and_gba_games

WTF is that D-Pad? it looks like a reversed pudding in a bowl, its just FUGLY.

It is a micro switch, similar to Neo Geo.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

It looks like Hyperkin has competition... from Retro-Bit



Found this on their Facebook. Retro Trio, maybe?

It is a micro switch, similar to Neo Geo.

The console wars are ON!

ALL OF THEM!

[Tanooki]

Retrobit products aren't all that great historically and given this thing doesn't even handle HDMI nor all those oddball features of the Retron5 with the price fairly close, and actually higher if you buy the GBA adapter cart I see them pricing it down or going down in flames. I just wonder what they were thinking charging more and offering less.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

rage rage rage

Wow, you haven't really been paying attention have you? Let me address your concerns:

WTF is that D-Pad?

That's NOT a dpad. It's a digital clickstick similar to the NeoGeo CDZ and NeoGeo Pocket. Hyperkin is likely going that way to appease SNK fans as well as for retro fighting games, shooters, etc. If it's done right, a clickstick is a thousand times better than a dpad. Only time will tell if Hyperkin gets it right, but giving them shit for trying is pointless. I COMMEND hyperkin for trying.

Holding that controller is probably the equivalent of holding a red brick in terms of comfort.

And you base this on....what exactly? You know this just a prototype design right? Also, since when were brick controllers a bad thing? Look at oh I don't know, both the NES and Sega Master System controllers?

and you know the build quality will be awful

Actually, I think the point is you DON'T know that. Past results don't mean squat when talking about a future product. Your flawed comparison would be like not liking the N64 controller and then condemning the GameCube for that reason.

and the lay-out for different systems will be wrong.

Nope, wrong. The Retorn5 will allow users to freely remap the controls to whatever they like, for any game at any time. This will also apply to OEM NES, SNES and Genesis controllers as well.

They should release it without the controllers, just the console

I somewhat agree, but from the sounds of it one of the controllers will be needed to access the main navigation menu, so without the controllers the system would be useless. Of course, the system is still in the beta stages, so things could/probably will change considerably by the time it's finalized.

Retrobit products aren't all that great historically and given this thing doesn't even handle HDMI nor all those oddball features of the Retron5 with the price fairly close, and actually higher if you buy the GBA adapter cart I see them pricing it down or going down in flames. I just wonder what they were thinking charging more and offering less.

Oh I have to disagree there. Historically speaking, RetroBit's clones have been consistently much higher quality in terms of performance than Hyperkin's clones. This is why I was skeptical of the Retorn4 announcement, but as time has gone on it seems as though the tables have turned and it's RetroBit who is playing catch up.

I don't see the RetroBit Triple System as a direct competitor to the Retron5. No HDMI and no emulation, this is gonna be another in the line of reverse engineered clones that use SD resolutions. Hyperkin hasn't said the price of the Retorn5 except "under $100" (which I personally find hard to believe) so there's no point in comparing the prices of either until they're finalized. The real comparison of the two won't be in the features they offer nor their price, but in the way they both preform. As I said, RetroBit's clones have a very high degree of accuracy and compatibility and are the king of reverse engineered hardware based clones, but this time Hyperkin is jumping ship and going with emulation. Since emulation has the theoretical ability to run everything perfectly, it *might* be better than RetroBit's new system. As I've said before, only time will tell.

[Manga4life]

Any word on a release date on the RetroN 5? When it hits I'll probably pick one of these up, I have an original classic NES as well as a Generation NEX but lately I've noticed the NES has been acting up a bit and the NEX only plays NES games (I love that thing).

Looking forward to this release!

[Pikointeractive]

Retrobit is too late to the party with half of what the Retron5 is offering.