Console Wars SNES vs. Sega Genesis

[Melf]

I was thinking that, but didn't want to go there to feed that post. I haven't played favorites with a system since the 90s either.

I'm not sure what you mean by "feeding." I wasn't playing favorites, merely pointing out something that wasn't true.

[Gentlegamer]

Check it out http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post693603

Gradius III and EGM cited, perfect combo for the Genesis fanboy who needs reassurance over 20 years later.

Melf, you really need to ban all non-Genesis discussion on your forum. Super Nintendo is the topic of seemingly more than half the threads on your Sega Genesis website.

[MidnightRider]

^You mean unlike yourself obsessing over this very subject?

On the flip side, it's funny how an innocent magazine topic on this very forum devolved into SNES fanboy bitching over the same exact EGM page. Then further devolved into bitching over the advertisement wars.

Stupid sexist Sega: http://www.defunctgames.com/pic/commercialbreak33d.jpg
Thankfully flawless Nintendo never resorted to sexism in it's advertisements:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evI5pF5h8Ck





Now, are we done giving verbal fellatio to corporations that manufacture hardware, so we can get back to enjoying the software?

[Casati]

Does anyone realize that I started this thread as a discussion of multi-platform games, not unique games for each console or a discussion of which console is better? Has anyone watched those Console Wars YouTube videos? I think they provide good criterion for judging between multiple versions of the same game and they show screen shots to let viewers make their own decision.

[Tanooki]

It's an old thread and it's a classic gaming board with people who usually owned one or the other so of course it's going to devolve into pointing out people making asses out of themselves in the past or present playing sides and being childish about it. The big one clearly was EGM as they uniquely played the role of the dick against Nintendo, Philips, and a few other companies as they tended to suck up to one big fish every generation and to do so, so well they'd toss everyone else under the bus with lies and insinuations to manipulate readers because there was no internet so you took their word on it with no way to research it. Now though you can look back at how awful they and others were and draw some new conclusions or reinforce old ones.

That Sega-16 thread is pretty bad, but it's no surprise as it's a Sega only board, and the Genesis was about really the only solid system they ever put out and backed properly people could look up to which would make the SNES the equal of the video gaming antichrist to them and that Gen vs SNES hardware comparison is loaded with bs. The one thread some some semblance of honesty though I do appreciate they have is that Gen vs SNES side by side for games both systems got, even those that got the same game by name but not content really didn't play sides. Even some games I recall people claiming was better back then on the Genesis like Earthworm Jim 2 is thrown curiously to the SNES in that thread.

[Casati]

I am more than willing to even to list me top 75 games for the Sega Genesis.

Proceed with your Genesis list, thank you.

[JSoup]

Now, are we done giving verbal fellatio to corporations that manufacture hardware, so we can get back to enjoying the software?

You must be new to the gaming community.

[Melf]

Melf, you really need to ban all non-Genesis discussion on your forum. Super Nintendo is the topic of seemingly more than half the threads on your Sega Genesis website.

Lol, three threads! However will we stop the flood! And didn't you start one of them?

[7th lutz]

Proceed with your Genesis list, thank you.

Thanks, but i'll wait after Christmas. I have a younger brother that gives me video games as Christmas presents. The Games he gives me Christmas are from older game systems.

[Tanooki]

So you can't name 75 until basically after the new year? That seems questionable.

[7th lutz]

So you can't name 75 until basically after the new year? That seems questionable.

I actually name 75 games now, but I don't want to change my list so soon.

All I am will to say about my genesis Collection is I have way more than 75 games. The only game consoles that I have more games than the Genesis is the Nes and the Atari 2600.

[Tanooki]

I don't have 75 on any system, I have in the past and over 100 easy, but never a Sega system as those I think topped out in the 40s on Genesis and Dreamcast. It doesn't mean I couldn't work up a list of 75 though on Genesis as it wouldn't be terribly hard I don't think.

[7th lutz]

I don't have 75 on any system, I have in the past and over 100 easy, but never a Sega system as those I think topped out in the 40s on Genesis and Dreamcast. It doesn't mean I couldn't work up a list of 75 though on Genesis as it wouldn't be terribly hard I don't think.

Creating a top 75 genesis isn't a problem for me. Me waiting for Christmas is the fact I get games that I didn't play before like what happened with Super Fantasy Zone as a birthday gift I got earlier this year.

A lot of the games I buy for older systems actually is games that I never played before.

[celerystalker]

Here's a top 75, not in any order:

1 Musha
2 Sailor Moon
3 Steel Empire
4 Exile
5 Phelios
6 Elemental Master
7 Yu Yu Hakusho (the fighter from Treasure)
8 Gunstar Heroes
9 Pulseman
10 Phantasy Star II
11 Phantasy Star III
12 Phantasy Star IV
13 Gain Ground
14 Alien Storm
15 Shining Force
16 Shining Force II
17 Castlevania Bloodlines
18 Contra Hard Corps
19 Toejam & Earl
20 Rocket Knight Adventures
21 Chiki Chiki Boys
22 Wonder Boy in Monster World
23 Trampoline Terror
24 Streets of Rage
25 Bare Knuckle II
26 Bare Knuckle III
27 Golden Axe
28 Golden Axe II
29 Golden Axe III
30 Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
31 Grind Stormer
32 Truxton
33 Comix Zone
34 Granada
35 NHLPA Hockey '93
36 Sonic the Hedgehog
37 Sonic 2
38 Sonic 3
39 Sonic & Knuckles
40 King Colossus
41 Saint Sword
42 Valis III
43 Crusader of Centy
44 Landstalker
45 McDonald's Treasure Island
46 Dynamite Headdy
47 TMNT: The Hyperstone Heist
48 Rock 'n Roll Racing
49 Thunderforce II
50 Thunderforce III
51 Lightening Force
52 Sagaia
53 Trouble Shooter
54 Ristar
55 Sorcerer's Kingdom
56 Columns
57 Gauntlet IV
58 Alien Soldier
59 Crackdown
60 Ranger X
61 Soldiers of Fortune
62 Shadowrun
63 Marvel Land
64 Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Kingdom
65 Ghouls & Ghosts
66 Light Crusader
67 Space Harrier II
68 Ghostbusters
69 Sorcerian
70 Sword of Vermillion
71 Boogerman
72 Earthworm Jim
73 Earthworm Jim 2
74 Beyond Oasis
75 Tyrants

There you go off the top of my head. I still like both the SNES and Turbografx better. Happy to give better lists for those two.

I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but the site retro sanctuary does some nice multi-platform comparisons that seem mostly unbiased and contain a lot of screens.

[MidnightRider]

Not in any particular order of favoritism, outside the first 6 or so.

01) Streets of Rage 2
02) Pirates! Gold
03) Sonic 3 & Knuckles
04) Contra: Hard Corps
05) Gunstar Heroes
06) The Adventures of Batman and Robin
07) Chiki Chiki Boys
08) Beyond Oasis
09) LandStalker
10) Crusader of Centy
11) Shining Force
12) Herzog Zwei
13) Bio-Hazard Battle
14) Golden Axe II
15) Bubble and Squeak
16) Castlevania: Bloodlines
17) Rocket Knight Adventures
18) Skitchin'
19) Mega Turrican
20) Comix Zone
21) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist
22) El Viento
23) Lightening Force
24) Gaiares
25) Trouble Shooter
26) Kings Bounty
27) Starflight
28) Columns III
29) Gauntlet IV
30) Ranger X
31) X-Men 2: The Clone Wars
32) Crack Down
33) Ristar
34) Ghouls & Ghosts
35) Ghostbusters
36) Phantasy Star IV
37) Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse
38) Aladdin
39) Desert Demolition Starring Road Runner & Wile E. Coyote
40) Mega Turrican
41) ESWAT: City Under Siege
42) Jurassic Park: Rampage Edition
43) Bubba 'n Stix
44) Championship Pro-Am
45) Outrun
46) Super Hang-On
47) Two Crude Dudes
48) Shinobi III
49) Decap Attack
50) Fatal Labyrinth
51) M.U.S.H.A
52) Phelios
53) Rolling Thunder 3
54) Skeleton Krew
55) Mutant League Football
56) Strider
57) Vectorman
58) Zoom!
59) Wings of Wor
60) Alisia Dragoon
61) Target Earth
62) The Steel Empire
63) Elemental Master
64) Mystic Defender
65) Tinhead
66) Quack Shot Starring Donald Duck
67) Toejam & Earl
68) Blades of Vengeance
69) Midnight Resistance
70) Kid Chameleon
71) Mercs
72) The Pirates of Dark Water
73) Splatterhouse 2
74) Wiz 'n' Liz: The Frantic Wabbit Wescue
75) Flicky

Made with the following restrictions:
*1 game to represent any series, to keep the list from being cluttered by sequelitis. (Skitchin' representing Road Rash)
*Only North American releases (Otherwise Alien Soldier, Monster World IV, and a host of others would have been on there).
*To the best of my knowledge, nothing that appeared on a competing home console(not even so much as Master System or Sega CD), that is the same exact game (no WWF, no Mortal Kombat, no Street Fighter, etc.).

[Tanooki]

Both are some fairly nice lists there. I must be alone in loving Dune and Star Control.

[celerystalker]

Both are some fairly nice lists there. I must be alone in loving Dune and Star Control.

No, those are great. I just threw that off the top of my head just because there seemed to be some friendly prodding happening. I forgot a lot of good ones like those two, Herzog Zwei, Starflight, Mystic Defender, and lord only knows what else if I really thought about it. There are some real winners on the system. I like just about every other 16 bit system better... well, not the CD-i. I don't think that's as much a knock on the Genesis as it is praise for that whole console generation. Out of the SNES, Genesis, Turbografx, and Neo Geo, there's not a real dog in the bunch. They're all great and should be played.

[Gentlegamer]

Great lists in here, most of them are on my collecting list.

[Tanooki]

Ok well perhaps they're liked but forgotten, but I do know I"m probably in the minority of loving the Genesis release of Virtua Racing over the Saturn one for instance (I've had both.) I played the crap out of the Genesis game having bought it new from Sega's (in the 90s) covert website sega-parts.com which had so much old stock for sale new for like $5-20 at the time. It once was a nice quiet resource where I got that game, Ghouls n Ghosts, and a few others from cheap.

[calgon]

Great lists. Sega all the way for me. Super NES is great also, but too many RPGs and well, more childish games (not that there's anything wrong with that) for me.