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    So now I get two stories. If the Coleco holdings now is the one from around 2005~ then the Coleco handheld I had then really is the same one likely that they've slowly off and on re-released through the ATGames model with the 10 added games to its stock I have in my drawer of my desk here. Perhaps someone could get an interview with them again and ask why the hell they don't fix their Genesis emulator so the game saving works and the sound isn't so off key in some games. I'd love to see that one answered.

    He's talking of a coleco flashback 2.0, probably too much to hope it would have a cart slot on it. I'd buy that. I used to emulate the hell out of that console in the mid 90s and it has some fun stuff coleco and third parties made too (of which those aren't all on the box now.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    Nice try. I suppose ColeCo is a musician but has nothing to do with this.

    As has been the case for at least a decade, Coleco is owned by River Brands West through it's Coleco Holdings LLC subsidiary in Chicago. Mark Thomann of River Brands has already been interviewed about the Chameleon.



    It's the same group that licensed the At Games console, as well as reproduction Coleco hand helds. There was no change in ownership.

    Alrighty then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badinsults View Post
    In fairness, he is a "home improvement titan".

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    Quote Originally Posted by badinsults View Post
    One comment posted from one month ago:

    Portnoyd • a month ago

    Hope he likes losing money when the RetroVGS tanks.

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    Choo choo!


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    Hi Gentlegamer. I've been following the thread over on AtariAge.

    For those not in the know, Mike showed up at the Toy Fair in New york, with his "prototype" running SNES homebrew games. After careful scrutiny, it was determined that the prototype cartrdige in the slot was an SNES flash cart, and the console had naught more than an SNES mini crammed inside it. Photo/Video evidence provided by Mike himself showed a cartridge slot that closely matched that of the SNES, that the system was being played with "hard wired" SNES controllers, and was powered by a cheap knockoff 3-in-1 power supply and a Nitnendo style AV cable, with similar spacing that matches the back of an SNES Mini.

    When questioned on Facebook, Mike stated that he had an FPGA core inside simulating the SNES code. That is a blatant lie as the actual hardware was determined with 98% certainty by the AtariAge community, to be an SNES Mini running inside the Jag shell. Mike and Company have actually designed nothing themselves: an SNES console form Nintendo, a shell from the Atari Jaguar, and a clone Wii-U controller that doesn't currently work with anything...
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    This whole train wreck has been uncomfortable to follow.

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    Oh wow. What happened to all those cardboard circuit designs?

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    Hmm makes you almost want to sue someone for fraud and wide scam con man games with peoples time, money and efforts to help if all he can do is essentially wedge the SNES-2 inside a Jag shell he paid a lot for. I'd say neuter him, but it's probably too late to stop that from being any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stardust4ever View Post
    Hi Gentlegamer. I've been following the thread over on AtariAge.

    For those not in the know, Mike showed up at the Toy Fair in New york, with his "prototype" running SNES homebrew games. After careful scrutiny, it was determined that the prototype cartrdige in the slot was an SNES flash cart, and the console had naught more than an SNES mini crammed inside it. Photo/Video evidence provided by Mike himself showed a cartridge slot that closely matched that of the SNES, that the system was being played with "hard wired" SNES controllers, and was powered by a cheap knockoff 3-in-1 power supply and a Nitnendo style AV cable, with similar spacing that matches the back of an SNES Mini.

    When questioned on Facebook, Mike stated that he had an FPGA core inside simulating the SNES code. That is a blatant lie as the actual hardware was determined with 98% certainty by the AtariAge community, to be an SNES Mini running inside the Jag shell. Mike and Company have actually designed nothing themselves: an SNES console form Nintendo, a shell from the Atari Jaguar, and a clone Wii-U controller that doesn't currently work with anything...
    Oh wow! This keeps getting better and better! This is going to go down as the most infamous laughable game console project of all time.
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    What kind of train do you think this would be?
    Steam? Diesel electric? MagLev?

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    In other news I have yet to receive the next issue of Retro and it's been like a 6 month delay between issues. This is (was?) Mike's other baby. It crashed pretty hard, sad to say I funded it two years and doubt there will be a third year at the rate they're going...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niku-Sama View Post
    What kind of train do you think this would be?
    Steam? Diesel electric? MagLev?
    Steam Locomotive, of course. The others aren't "retro" enough!

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    I think had they simply been demo-ing the games, whether with an SD2SNES or later Piko Interactive's SNES pcb, would have been fine. However, fraud aside, how do you show up to Toy Fair with something so incomplete? This is a "proof of concept" that in normal product development would not make it out passed the initial pitch meetings. Pretty gosh darn embarrassing. I'm a retail buyer, I walk up, and your controller can't even work with your device? We all know why.

    Supposedly ALL will be revealed with the Kickstarter in 2 weeks (which ought to be fun)! Early bird I think is a console with a game or two for $135.

    PS: Supposedly the double issue of RETRO is shipping as we speak, although that was a week or so ago that I read it, and still haven't gotten mine.
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    They basically showed off three commercial SNES games that Piko has managed to get a license for. Two of those games were even commercially released back in the day (the other, Apocalypse II, was leaked on the Internet over a decade ago)! I'm willing to bet they set their kickstarter amount to something ridiculously low (like $100,000). That will be low enough that enough suckers buy into it and it succeeds. Even pointing out that they basically showed off a SNES inside of a Jaguar shell is not enough to discourage the true believers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niku-Sama View Post
    What kind of train do you think this would be?
    Steam? Diesel electric? MagLev?
    Bullet train, as in but the... or to the skull.

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    This is just SO outstanding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    PS: Supposedly the double issue of RETRO is shipping as we speak, although that was a week or so ago that I read it, and still haven't gotten mine.
    Same here; I also read that and haven't received anything yet. The whole thing has been horribly mismanaged and honestly, the magazine is marginal at best. It's not what I expected when I pledged to support it on KS. If there even is a third year I am not giving them another penny. It shouldn't take this long to make a 72 page magazine.

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    So... At the moment this is a SNES wedged inside a Jaguar shell.

    What is it supposed to be, hardware wise? I've read through this thread, through what I guess is the website and I am still not clear. Is it a SNES with some soured up components? The website says 'play classics and new', which implies it will play (some?) old stuff?

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    They should just make new SNES games and we should all just pretend its a new system

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