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Yes, I did, but it was as a response to the people who masturbate to the completeness of past gen games. Now, I for one don't ever buy games from publishers who announce season passes, months worth of extra content, etc, before they even release the game, because I also don't like purchasing incomplete titles, but if these games do interest me, I'll wait for them to either release a complete edition or two years later when it's obvious there won't be one, I'll buy the game for cheap. I'm also disappointed when I get a game I'm interested in and it happens to have framerate issues or has a day one patch. However, I'm not so blind that I can't see that even without patches, the games run a lot better than past gen titles. Super Castlevania 4 is one of my favorite games of all time, in fact, it's one of my top 10 favorite games of all time, but it still has tons of slow down issues. If it was released today I'd be disappointed seeing the issues it has as well.
I'll even help your argument by saying it's easy for them to be sold complete when most old games were short, you played for a high score or the game was tough so it took awhile to get through the few short levels. Computer games were longer, and those old adventure games were among my favourites. I dislike modern episodic games compared to the older full games. I pretty much also wait for the games to be fully released before playing them, that's a bit different than most people with modern gaming who buy stuff close to launch to play it at it's peak interest. I'd buy interesting stuff if I came across it at a yard sale too, like priced $1 each or so. That's how I got Dishonored in the first place, along with other 360 games I can't even remember the titles of as I sold them off too.

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I pretty much hated Dishonored as well, also sold it off. However, you listed off a bunch of characters, but how is Lara Croft and Solid Snake any less generic than a lot of these others? Their game releases and how popular they were is what made them iconic characters. Do you hear people saying how awesome Jake from Shadow Run on SNES is as a character? Some of the most iconic characters are from RPG games, and all of those are just random weeaboo anime characters. The reason why these characters are so much more iconic than most, despite being as generic as they are, is because you spend so much time with these characters.
They're presented interestingly, that's why they're remembered. You need both a good game and a good character for games to be memorable, not just a good game. Plenty of horrible games are better remembered because they're awful, the least memorable are just mediocre. I've never really played Shadowrun for any length of time, I have it for the Genesis but never got into it. If you have a good game but weak characters, it'll still be forgotten pretty quick.

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Additionally, why would you even play the game because the characters. The game atleast has to look appealing sure, but I didn't like Simon Belmont before I liked Castlevania. I like Simon Belmont because I like Castlevania. If Castlevania was trash, do you think I would have ever liked any of the characters within the game?
What makes adventure games fun or boring? The characters, writing, and puzzles. If any of those are lacking, the game won't be liked by adventure fans. It's why the genre almost died out awhile back because so many of the games coming out were just mediocre. Castlevania has good atmosphere and you're fighting Dracula, everything about it is appealing. Notice that the main character keeps changing in Castlevania games, the constant is Dracula.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, Tomb Raider and Metal Gear Solid on the PS1 don't have tutorials? Games have advanced beyond using two or three buttons on average, so you'd expect tutorials to be built into the gameplay. Additionally, gaming is bigger than it's ever been, and not only do people lack common sense, but they're stupid. The majority of "gamers" are trash at actually playing them, so blame society for being morons that need their hands held to get through the games. AVGN rarely plays anything that isn't past gen, and what he does play past gen he's pretty garbage at, despite that being almost all he ever plays. So obviously you see the need for tutorials for these people when more buttons are involved.

That being said, I do hope you do realize how ridiculous it is to bash a video game for incorporating tutorials. That's a pretty sad excuse.
I've never actually played Tomb Raider games for any length of time, besides a GBC game which doesn't really count as a proper Tomb Raider game. I just know of the character, which says something to the marketing. I haven't played through any of the Metal Gear Solid games, just a few hours of various games at kiosks when EB Games had them(which were pretty fun). I had Metal Gear on the NES, which sucks but is still memorable. I own the first two Metal Gear Solid games and plan to eventually play them.

I don't have a lot of spare time to play games and haven't for the last few years. If I only have 10 minutes at a time then I'll play something like Tetris, if I have a couple hours then I'll play something quick like a Sonic game until I die and put it away, or something like Ducktales or Super Mario Land I can play through to completion. I don't like it when so many modern games need hours of devotion just to be taught the controls and mechanics of a game before I can just freely play it. If I'm lucky and have hours of free time, I'll play an adventure game. Or just watch a let's play of a new game on youtube, I have no interest in playing them.

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You need a "TV" to play any console. Edmond Dantes bringing that up in the first place to justify his reasoning, just shows it's nothing more than blind hate, which is pretty much all these threads are in the first place.
You said he didn't need an HDTV as he could use a converter to use HDMI on an old TV, I explained that you really do need an HDTV to play them. You could get by and hook it up to an old 5" portable black and white TV as well but good luck with that. I don't like being told that I need to spend money and buy a new version of something I really don't care about, it's like me telling you to renovate your bathroom or kitchen because they're a bit out of style now.