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    I am surprise Baldur Gate 1/2, Neverwinter Night, Ice Wind and Torment got release for switch. I thought it was PC exclusive for longest time and most of the newer console gamers never heard of these title. Glad it did.

    Also other game that make a surprise comeback would be the River City ransom with the newest entry River City Girls.

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    Sonic the Hedgehog.

    Don't get me wrong, the Genesis games were fantastic, and every once in a while they accidentally make a decent one (like Sonic Colors)... but how is there still such a strong demand for more Sonic games? Is it all 40 year old men who remember the originals, or are there new young Sonic fans who inexplicably got hooked on Sonic Heroes or Sonic and the Black Knight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze_ro View Post
    or are there new young Sonic fans who inexplicably got hooked on Sonic Heroes or Sonic and the Black Knight?
    Definitely. My 10-year-old nephew was obsessed with Sonic. Between the cartoons, toys, games, and so on, the franchise has been pretty good at attracting new fans. It also probably doesn't hurt that a lot of those 40-year-old men have kids of their own and will pick up new Sonic games for their kids just because they remember the originals.

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    The thing that annoys me about Sonic is that he's become the face of the Sega Genesis, one of my favorite consoles.

    Like seriously, whenever you see people need a representative of "best of the Genesis," they almost invariably go to Sonic... because he's the only Sega Genesis character they know. Like, hello? Shinobi III? Splatterhouse 2? The Phantasy Star and Shining Force games? Nope its just Sonic Sonic Sonic. For these people Sonic might as well be the only game Sega ever released.

    Super Nintendo doesn't seem to have this problem--you can discuss that without it all being about Mario. That kind of irks me.

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    The problem there is Sega hasn't been as good as Nintendo about keeping the memory of their old franchises alive. They've either been abandoned, evolved into something barely resembling the Genesis games (like modern Shining and Phantasy Star games), and/or the new entries just plain aren't very good.

    That said, I think most people's favorites for SNES are pretty samey. It's almost always Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    The problem there is Sega hasn't been as good as Nintendo about keeping the memory of their old franchises alive. They've either been abandoned, evolved into something barely resembling the Genesis games (like modern Shining and Phantasy Star games), and/or the new entries just plain aren't very good.

    That said, I think most people's favorites for SNES are pretty samey. It's almost always Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, etc.
    That's true but at least Chrono Trigger and Earthbound are non-core franchises that aren't constantly being milked, showing that people do remember even the non-core stuff.

    Part of me wonders if this is why the TurboGrafx is rarely remembered at all--nobody remembers Bonk, and his major thing was the TG16/PC-Engine. Kinda sad really that nobody remembers that gem of a console.

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    The PC Engine is well-known and fondly remembered in Japan. But probably less so for Bonk (PC Genjin) and more for stuff like Tengai Makyo. In the West, the availability of the TG-16 was too limited to begin with to be remembered well. I don't think I even knew it had ever existed until the late 90s. I don't recall it being at any of the stores I went to, and I definitely didn't know anyone who had one. And since I wasn't getting any gaming magazines back then, I just never heard about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Like, hello? Shinobi III? Splatterhouse 2? The Phantasy Star and Shining Force games? Nope its just Sonic Sonic Sonic.
    Yeah, but none of those games have recognizable characters... Joe Musashi is just a regular ninja guy, Phantasy Star and Shining Force don't have consistent character rosters, and Splatterhouse isn't a Sega property. Sega was all about the arcade games, and you never really got any story or character there anyways, so the closest thing you got to a mascot was Ax Battler. If anything, they were relying more on licensed celebrities like Michael Jackson and Buster Douglas.

    They did make some more memorable characters later on that they could have done more with... like the Streets of Rage crew, Vectorman, Ecco, and ToeJam & Earl. They did try some spinoffs with the Eternal Champions characters, but those went pretty badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze_ro View Post
    Yeah, but none of those games have recognizable characters...
    ... Not sure why that matters when the issue is people only recognizing one franchise. I mean, NES fans remember Tetris and that sure don't have recognizable characters.

    For that matter, you mentioned Phantasy Star not having a consistent roster, but isn't that true for Final Fantasy as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    I mean, NES fans remember Tetris and that sure don't have recognizable characters.
    I dunno about that. The L-Block won GameFAQs's most popular character battle years ago, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    The thing that annoys me about Sonic is that he's become the face of the Sega Genesis, one of my favorite consoles.

    Like seriously, whenever you see people need a representative of "best of the Genesis," they almost invariably go to Sonic... because he's the only Sega Genesis character they know. Like, hello? Shinobi III? Splatterhouse 2? The Phantasy Star and Shining Force games? Nope its just Sonic Sonic Sonic. For these people Sonic might as well be the only game Sega ever released.

    Super Nintendo doesn't seem to have this problem--you can discuss that without it all being about Mario. That kind of irks me.
    this is true and with people waxing nostalgiacally in generally, 99% of the time the only game I will hear mentioned is "Super Mario Bros." thats not even an exaggeration

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