Intellivision Amico Console announced - Hundreds of millions of sprites. Superior 2D than PS4 or PS5

[Hep038]

Man that is one toxic reddit page... Must suck for the people who are actual fans of the product. But I guess that is Reddit for you.

[Greg2600]

I was optimistic before, but now I think it's time for us to accept it, Greg2600. It's not going pull through and be released.

I have not been optimistic about this thing for more than 2 years. Just wanted to point out that the trademark hadn't been completely given up, though now it has.

Man that is one toxic reddit page... Must suck for the people who are actual fans of the product. But I guess that is Reddit for you.

The vitriol towards this project, similarly to others in the past, both successful and unsuccessful, always shocks me. Why is there such vitriol in the gaming community? These are TOYS!!! It's not politics, it's not life or death issues, or religion. They're effing toys.

[JSoup]

I find it strange that people who have been into gaming for as long as the average user here would be asking 'why drama'. Drama runs this shit and has since the Atari days. There were likely two assholes arguing over how Tennis for Two was bullshit and that one intern was a fucking cheater while performing oscilloscope maintenance.

In this case, the vitriol is because the names SoCalMike and Tommy Talarico are at the top of the project list. Two clowns with a hiking trails length worth of failed projects and all the charisma of a Trump statue made from wet socks. This was doomed right out the gate and literally anyone with adult level object permeance knew that from word damn one. I get that folks like to jerk them off around here, but times come to call an apple an apple.

[Niku-Sama]

what gets me about this whole thing is how this thing is in dev hell while the Evercade can come out of no where, actually sell, and the handheld version seems to be getting an upgrade, all while these guys just eff up a decent name.

its gotta be some sort of money laundering/front for something.
usually when people screw up this often they dont have any one to work with after a while but these guys seem to keep getting backed for more projects that never see the light of day

[Aussie2B]

I've got the first reply in this topic, and yeah.....I called it. Not surprised by any of this. I'm more surprised that so many people actually believed in the project.

As for how somebody like Tommy Tallarico keeps getting people to work with him, he's a huge shmoozer, and he loves to name-drop Steven Tyler being his cousin. I wouldn't be surprised if the latter actually worked for him at some point in his life or if he asked his cousin for a favor at some point. With the fields he's worked in, meeting the right people at the right time gets you further than talent and experience.

[Greg2600]

I find it strange that people who have been into gaming for as long as the average user here would be asking 'why drama'. Drama runs this shit and has since the Atari days. There were likely two assholes arguing over how Tennis for Two was bullshit and that one intern was a fucking cheater while performing oscilloscope maintenance.

In this case, the vitriol is because the names SoCalMike and Tommy Talarico are at the top of the project list. Two clowns with a hiking trails length worth of failed projects and all the charisma of a Trump statue made from wet socks. This was doomed right out the gate and literally anyone with adult level object permeance knew that from word damn one. I get that folks like to jerk them off around here, but times come to call an apple an apple.

I don't know this SoCalMike but Tommy had a positive reputation in the gaming industry, he's not someone that those who have actually worked in the industry viewed as a crook. Yeah I get the drama is what the internet is, but my point was it's like every project that comes around, there's vicious hate for. Unless you stay within a small niche group only, such as flash cart makers. Though hell, Krikzz got blasted for fleeing Ukraine with Russian bombs dropping by immature douche's who were pissed he hadn't shipped their orders.

what gets me about this whole thing is how this thing is in dev hell while the Evercade can come out of no where, actually sell, and the handheld version seems to be getting an upgrade, all while these guys just eff up a decent name.

its gotta be some sort of money laundering/front for something.
usually when people screw up this often they dont have any one to work with after a while but these guys seem to keep getting backed for more projects that never see the light of day

I think they were honestly working on the product up until the pandemic. Was it along enough? Did they have a proper financial plan? Who knows at this point. The pandemic ended the project one way or the other, and Tommy and co. had to have known they were screwed, mostly out of no fault of theirs. Commissioning chips at that point was going to be impossible. Then they tried begging for more money, at which point forget it. Maybe it was never going to happen? They bit off too much here, I don't know, we'll never know.

The Evercade is based on existing hardware technology, and utilizes emulation software which already exist. The Amico crew were building something largely from scratch, it's apples and oranges.

[Gameguy]

I don't know this SoCalMike

That's Mike Kennedy, the creator of RETRO Video Game Magazine, former owner of Game Gavel, and scammer with the fake/non-existent Coleco Chameleon console. If you're unaware of who he is or what the Coleco Chameleon was, there's various threads on this forum which you can search for. It was a big deal back when it all happened and I'm surprised you're unaware of all of it.

but Tommy had a positive reputation in the gaming industry, he's not someone that those who have actually worked in the industry viewed as a crook.

Plenty of people already hated him for years. Not for scamming, but just being someone unlikable with a massive ego. People remember him from G4 when he reviewed games on a show, apparently giving bad reviews to good games because he's not skilled enough at playing games and just outright dislikes certain genres. Choosing someone already disliked to be the front face of your new product isn't the greatest move.

Yeah I get the drama is what the internet is, but my point was it's like every project that comes around, there's vicious hate for.

Most projects just seem unnecessary or exploitative, or ineptly handled. Very few seem like they're actually something useful or competently put together. When a project seems like it's creating a solution for a problem that doesn't exist, of course collectors call them out. Nobody likes being exploited. Most projects are simply a waste of time and potentially a waste of money for most of the intended targeted market.

I think they were honestly working on the product up until the pandemic. Was it along enough? Did they have a proper financial plan? Who knows at this point. The pandemic ended the project one way or the other, and Tommy and co. had to have known they were screwed, mostly out of no fault of theirs. Commissioning chips at that point was going to be impossible. Then they tried begging for more money, at which point forget it. Maybe it was never going to happen? They bit off too much here, I don't know, we'll never know.

Who knows at this point? That's literally mentioned in the documents that were leaked, the ones I mentioned in this thread. No, they didn't have a proper financial plan even before the first e-begging started. I posted an article earlier that sums up parts of the documents to make it easier to sort through, and through that article there's various other links to other things people noticed when looking over the documents.

Like noticing a mathematical "irregularity" in the Amico investment pitch. They were incompetent from the beginning, or actual frauds deliberately falsifying values at the worst.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Intellivisi...co_investment/

You may never know but most other people will as the information is now available publicly.

[Greg2600]

That's Mike Kennedy, the creator of RETRO Video Game Magazine, former owner of Game Gavel, and scammer with the fake/non-existent Coleco Chameleon console. If you're unaware of who he is or what the Coleco Chameleon was, there's various threads on this forum which you can search for. It was a big deal back when it all happened and I'm surprised you're unaware of all of it.

Plenty of people already hated him for years. Not for scamming, but just being someone unlikable with a massive ego. People remember him from G4 when he reviewed games on a show, apparently giving bad reviews to good games because he's not skilled enough at playing games and just outright dislikes certain genres. Choosing someone already disliked to be the front face of your new product isn't the greatest move.

Most projects just seem unnecessary or exploitative, or ineptly handled. Very few seem like they're actually something useful or competently put together. When a project seems like it's creating a solution for a problem that doesn't exist, of course collectors call them out. Nobody likes being exploited. Most projects are simply a waste of time and potentially a waste of money for most of the intended targeted market.

Who knows at this point? That's literally mentioned in the documents that were leaked, the ones I mentioned in this thread. No, they didn't have a proper financial plan even before the first e-begging started. I posted an article earlier that sums up parts of the documents to make it easier to sort through, and through that article there's various other links to other things people noticed when looking over the documents.

Like noticing a mathematical "irregularity" in the Amico investment pitch. They were incompetent from the beginning, or actual frauds deliberately falsifying values at the worst.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Intellivisi...co_investment/

You may never know but most other people will as the information is now available publicly.

First off, Mike Kennedy had zero to do with the AMICO project or Intellivision, so other than to compare him to Tommy, his name has no relevance to the project. I personally am not a TT fan, never have been, but I also didn't hate on the guy. He had a lot of old industry support and friendships, as did the others who worked at the head of the AMICO project. Frankly, if you examined any project or company like this, you might *gasp* at the holes in planning or financing. Quite a lot is done with risk. Higher the risk, higher the reward. Honestly this entire thing bores the hell out of me. I'm of the opinion that had it came out at retail, I probably would have bought one to give it a whirl. I don't do kickstarters anymore almost never, I find them useless. I have pre-ordered many homebrew hardware after it's been shown to work. My point remains that I truly don't understand the need by many in the game fandom (no one here) to waste their time lampooning these projects. Frankly the Pat Contri videos were simply cringeworthy. Enough already.

[Gameguy]

First off, Mike Kennedy had zero to do with the AMICO project or Intellivision, so other than to compare him to Tommy, his name has no relevance to the project.

I never said he did.

You said you didn't know who that was so I just gave information on who he is. Of course, now I actually spent time researching and there are some connections between Mike Kennedy and Intellivision CEO Phil Adam, apparently Mike Kennedy considers him a personal friend, and Phil Adams was the "VP of Business Development" for the Coleco Chameleon.

Here's a transcript of an interview Mike Kennedy gave where he mentions Phil Adam and calls him a personal friend.
https://www.retrogamingroundup.com/d...Transcript.pdf

And here's where Intellivision Amico CEO Phil Adam had direct involvement with the Coleco Chameleon. It's funny how someone directly involved with the Coleco Chameleon console is now involved with this failed Intellivision console.
https://i.imgur.com/44MoEy3.png

I'm not saying Phil Adams is a scammer, just that he has direct connections to Mike Kennedy and the Coleco Chameleon. I didn't even know this until researching now, I never said they were connected previously.

There was also a forum post elsewhere where Phil Adam is given credit for helping educate Mike Kennedy on how to turn his idea into an actual product, good work right there. This was posted right before the Chameleon was revealed to be a scam, and the original post is gone or unviewable so I can't post a link to it here. All I can find is a crappy video still showing it so I'm not bothering to post it.

I personally am not a TT fan, never have been, but I also didn't hate on the guy. He had a lot of old industry support and friendships, as did the others who worked at the head of the AMICO project.

Personally I didn't know who he was outside of hearing him involved with the Amico, I've only looked into him now. Most information I can find about him online basically calls him a douchebag. I've never met him so I wouldn't know, he just talks trash a lot in interviews and seemed to make up a ton of incorrect information about the Amico he was promoting.

Frankly, if you examined any project or company like this, you might *gasp* at the holes in planning or financing. Quite a lot is done with risk. Higher the risk, higher the reward.

I'd be more willing to believe the financing was normal if it wasn't tied to a company that went bankrupt during development of it's very first product. These are supposed to be well experienced professionals too, not just young adults fresh out of high school or college just trying to start something out of their basement or garage.

Honestly this entire thing bores the hell out of me. I'm of the opinion that had it came out at retail, I probably would have bought one to give it a whirl. I don't do kickstarters anymore almost never, I find them useless. I have pre-ordered many homebrew hardware after it's been shown to work. My point remains that I truly don't understand the need by many in the game fandom (no one here) to waste their time lampooning these projects.

For me, money isn't as disposable as it is for other people. I wouldn't just buy something for hundreds of dollars just to "give it a whirl", I would have to do research to verify and decide if it's worth spending the money on, and do I really need it or actually want it enough to justify the purchase. I know plenty of people are ok with going to a casino and losing thousands of dollars and just consider it fun, but that's not me.

I barely knew any of the behind the scenes stuff until now, I never usually bother to do so much searching with random kickstarter projects but it seems like I have to give explicit evidence on why I don't support projects that seem outright sketchy when introduced. Maybe I'm just not as much of an optimist as you are. I just want to verify if a product or project is worth supporting before I throw money at it or hype it up like it's the next great thing. Maybe some people want to warn others before they invest in something sketchy thinking it'll be a sure thing, plenty of people lose money on these failures and scams.

Frankly the Pat Contri videos were simply cringeworthy.

Pat Contri is cringeworthy. I don't like him much in general as he comes across as irritating to me for whatever reason.