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    Default Another thread on why games should remain exclusive.

    So I decided to come at this topic from a different angle after watching a video Dreamcastguy released how Sony hasn't really released anything the entire generation yet are receiving massive profits.

    The different angle that I'm going to come from is that in the past year, Playstation has made over almost three billion in profit, that's 3000 million. In 2024, God of War Ragnarok released on PC, that's it, God of War Ragnarok, so even if that game sold one million copies, not even including development costs, but they'd have seen a return of $42 million.

    Now let that sink in, they lose exclusive of their own game, giving no reason for someone to play the game on a Playstation they can just play it on PC if they wish, all for a profit that is nothing compared to what they made in that entire year from their own software, third party software, DLC, hardware/accessory sales, and subscriptions.

    There are people in their corporate office saying well, PC gamers won't buy a Playstation, Xbox owners won't buy a Playstation. Well why is that, why would they not buy a Playstation? Because they know they can wait and just get it on PC. But for people who really do want to play the games, even though Sony's modern first party output is pretty shit, if people want to play God of Bore or Ghost of Tshitshima, they'd likely buy a Playstation if they wanted to that badly. And the more games that released that were exclusive, the higher incentive it would be to buy another console that you might initially be unwilling to buy. If there's a console I want to play atleast 20 games on, that's the point that I will likely purchase it and start collecting it.

    So let's say that God of War Ragnarok was only on PS5 and not everyone who bought it on PC bought it a Playstation to play it, but let's say, enough games came out and atleast half of those people bought it so let's just say 500,000 people bought a Playstation to play it instead of the one million who bought it on PC. Sony is now getting 100% of the profit, no development costs to port it over and all of the other potentially funding that they could receive, but let's just not even consider anything else, let's just consider the dollar amount of God of Bore Ragnarok only. $30 million. So even if they didn't make another cent on those players, the game would have profited $30 million because they are making the full 100% profit instead of 70%. The game would remain exclusive, it'd give more incentive to later on pick up the PS5. It'd also make all the possible funds from every other venue that I listed.

    This is certainly not worse for the company because in the long run it makes the company more profit, it makes the brand of the company more valuable. People say it's okay for Nintendo because they're on their own island, but how is it okay for Nintendo but not others. It's better for each business.

    Now, how is this good for gamers? We're having to spend more money now? Xbox is dead, yes currently all their games are releasing on Playstation but that's just their past catalogue, how long is that actually going to happen before the well dries up?

    If Xbox actually kept everything exclusive back on the Xbox One, never releasing any of it on PC, I think they'd have still seen a market of 80 million players, I think the Series X would be doing better because again, you wouldn't just be able to buy PC and play all of these games. Then when Microsoft had the userbase and bought Activision Blizzard, they likely would have kept the majority of these games exclusive, they wouldn't have released the ones even those that had fanbases over to other consoles, because they'd actually have the userbase that they wouldn't need the Playstation users. This would make Sony actually take their thumb out of their ass and do some shit, actually get competitive and release some fucking games rather than sit on their ass the entire generation.

    As it is now, Sony doesn't have to do shit to make a profit and currently it's going their way. Currently it's working for them but it all comes down because no competition when everything is available everywhere, why buy an Xbox. But again, Sony's doing the same shit, even though it's for them now, how long before people buy a PC instead of a PS6? The casuals will still prop Playstation up, but anyone that realizes you can get more out of a PC is going to buy a PC. When they know they can just wait and get everything on Playstation and then another 10x the games that will always release on PC first, when they know they aren't trapped by Playstation's walled garden bs online subscription and will pay far less than a digital only Playstation owner, they'll go to PC. PC selling getting 40-50% of all sales is quickly going to drop when it loses the userbase just as Xbox did.

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    Now, it could be seen as a positive to people who play PC, because once everything goes to PC, once Playstation is dead, once Xbox is dead, maybe Nintendo is still doing their thing, yeah, physical games are dying and at that point there is going to be no reason to have multiple consoles because what's the point in a console if you're getting something a PC can't offer. Now again, that'd be reason for exclusivity, but if physical dies I don't give a fu--. I don't give a fu-- if all console manufacturers implode at that point and PC becomes the only space you can game. Because at that point yes, it is better for the player when no one is dictating anything from the gamer.

    But I'm a physical collector and most people here are physical collectors, and the only thing we can really hope for is that the Playstation 6 has an internal disc drive at launch(an add on disc drive for the PS6 means that physical is dead, barely anyone is going to make a game for an add on, just look at PSVR2's physical line up.)

    Competition between hardware manufacturers will mean that everyone is paying more, including the console manufacturers, but if we have no physical disc drive fuck 'em. All their businesses can go under for all I care. I don't care about any of the console manufacturers, I care about physical media, and if I have to fight for the console manufacturers to keep that dream alive I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSoup View Post
    So you're saying you agree with Sony that killing your brand, that allowing the release of games like Everybody's Golf and Freedom Wars where Sony will make a profit of around $2.37 total is worth it for the sake of short term profit?

    If Sony doesn't think about the long term profitability of their business instead of the short term which does nothing but increase profits for investors in the here and now, there won't be a Playstation in the future.

    As of right now though there is no competition, there's been no competition for the last seven years outside of Nintendo who in one fell swoop shit all over the entire Switch branding in order to maximize profit.

    Sony following Microsoft's mandate is pretty much killing Playstation. They're heading in the exact same trajectory. I've been saying this for years and every so often something comes up to show that, yup, they're doing the same shit. You really think the death of the console isn't about to follow? With more and more people abandoning console hardware for PC, Playstation following Xbox in their third party model of starting to release their games not just on PC but now also on other consoles. The death knell is coming.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/consoles/co...shifting_away/

    Their moving away from hardware to focus on multiplatform sales, something they've stated in a recent investor meeting. Again, this is only profitable in the short term, and they only have ONE GAME that makes this sort of profit, and that's Helldiver's 2. What happens when Helldiver's 2 is no longer being played, when people finally get bored of it. Every other one of their microtransaction games have failed and the two that they're aiming to release next year also look like they're going to fail as well. By shifting away from hardware, by shifting away from making a console people want to stay invested in, they are ruining the brand for short term gain by investors that want a return on their investment as soon as possible and don't give two shits what actually happens to the company in the long run.

    These same investors are the reason for the fall of entertainment media, the reason why everything is now a separate high priced streaming service while the majority of content on these services are your long running series, reruns, shitty reality shows, or garbage that's shit out on a budget with writers who couldn't give two shits. Profitability has dried up, let's try to soak up everything from the video game industry causing it to die out as quick as possible. The shell that was once entertainment media, let's do the same thing to the video games industry to get as much money as possible, fuck the companies that actually develop this shit.

    You'd think there's definitely got to be a reason that week after week after week for years, people constantly complain how modern gaming is just a piece of shit.
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    Lost Soul Aside is the most recent PlayStation exclusive. I'm cupping my hand to my ear to listen for the thunderous sound of people rushing out to buy a PS5 console for this exclusive. Crickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Lost Soul Aside is the most recent PlayStation exclusive. I'm cupping my hand to my ear to listen for the thunderous sound of people rushing out to buy a PS5 console for this exclusive. Crickets
    The Last of Us, The Last of Us 2, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, every Spider-Man, Horizon, etc. Now I don't care about some of these games but a lot of people love these games. As I said above, they released one game on PC last year, maybe made a profit of $60 million at best, but disregarding that game, they made three billion from everything else. That $60 million is a drop in the bucket in comparison, and again, if they kept all of these games exclusive, many of these people would likely purchase the console, people who have abandoned Playstation for PC because they can just buy the games there. And again even if half of the people that bought God of Bore Ragnarok on PC, bought a Playstation there wouldn't be much of a loss, if any, and in the long term now those people who bought a Playstation would be making residual profit for the company.

    I wouldn't say that games like Lost Soul Aside are even exclusive. They are third party funded games by Sony. The games are temporarily or permanently exclusive based on the contracts. Helldivers for instance is a Sony property despite being developed by a third party. Lost Soul Aside is already on PC, Sony isn't even bothering waiting for potential Playstation sales.
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    Well, once Playstation is on the precipice of the end within the next seven years I'll make another thread to say I told you so.
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